My theory: There is no such thing as game

[upliftalldotcom]

Steps to attracting women:

1. Improve yourself
2. Eliminate all fear of rejection
3. Approach women

There is no gimmick, canned line, or neg that will increase women's attraction towards you. If there is, it will not help you in the long-run.

There are no shortcuts. The first step is the most important one of them all. Improve yourself the most you can in all aspects of your life, such as appearance, finances, and health. Great communication skills is simply a state of mind in which you don't give a **** about what other people think about you so that your true personality can shine. At the same time, you avoid stepping on other people's toes. If you have that mastered, you've completed step 2. Step 3 is self-explanatory.

 

[Fatal Jay]

I can dig it

 

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Steps to attracting women:
1. Improve yourself
2. Eliminate all fear of rejection
3. Approach women

That is game. At least the fundamentals of it.

There is no gimmick, canned line, or neg that will increase women's attraction towards you

Negs and canned lines are just the subtle nuances beginners can use in conversations to make things run smoother with number 3 on your list.

When a woman sets herself up to be negged ie : I like my new haircut, do you?. A noob can't exactly shout "I don't give a fvck !" with every response. Well he could but you get my point.

 

[saturnalia]

Steps to attracting women:

1. Improve yourself
2. Eliminate all fear of rejection
3. Approach women

There is no gimmick, canned line, or neg that will increase women's attraction towards you. If there is, it will not help you in the long-run.

you are correct, dating is a numbers game, you are only attractive to a certain amount of women

women want man and not children, women want a guy who is on his path and they can look up to him, you got to have a life, so you`ll be busy enough to not care about her nonsense

and of course mentally sane people all across the globe somehow managed to get a date and have sex without reading pua, exhibit #1 for that is called overpopulation

 

[NoShameInMyGame]

When a woman sets herself up to be negged ie : I like my new haircut, do you?. A noob can't exactly shout "I don't give a fvck !" with every response. Well he could but you get my point.

That's ****ing hilarious. :crackup:

 

[goundra]

MANY guys' "true personality" sucks, ,so letting it shine is not going to help them get chicks.

 

[upliftalldotcom]

Define what makes a personality "suck". You should find that the cause of all "sucky" personalities is rooted in some fear of rejection or desire to impress a girl. That is not my definition of letting one's true personality shine.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Define what makes a personality "suck". You should find that the cause of all "sucky" personalities is rooted in some fear of rejection or desire to impress a girl. That is not my definition of letting one's true personality shine.

The reality is... girls don't give a sh!t about your personality. They care about what you can do for them. This is why men like Donald Trump can get 10's.

Its about value at the end of the day. What value do you bring? How do you improve her life or her status? That's what its all about.

I've seen no real correlation between a man's personality and the girls he can get. Women choose the highest bidder. The guy that offers the most in terms of status, sex appeal, security, resources, etc.

The only personality trait that is relevant to attracting women is ambition. You have to be willing to put yourself out there and try. You have to seem like you know what you are doing and you must believe you offer value. THAT IS IT.

Women know that if a man is nervous or intimidated by her.. that means he KNOWS he doesn't offer value. As a result.. she will avoid him. Its not your personalty that turns women off.. its your lack of value in her eyes.

 

[goundra]

yeah, they may marry you, but that doesn't mean that they CARE ABOUT YOU. I had a neaarly 30 year affair with a woman 8 years my senior, who was married to a guy 2 years older than her. She wanted a kid, he wouldn't adopt, I finally got her pregnant after 5 years of trying. She had andrometriosis. He's spent MILLIONS of $ on her and that kids, and I haven't seen her in 7 years, but GUESS who can still fvck her any time he wants, and guess who CAN'T (and hasnt for over a decade now?) He broke weak in her eyes, I didn't, but I wouldn't fund her "shopping' and he would. So I sent her back to him after 6 weeks with me (2x) She'll always be my woman, if I want her. i don;'t, not anymore and she knows it.

 

[muscleman]

OP - I think you have a misunderstanding of Game. Game is lines or negs or anything, those are PRODUCTS of Game. You're putting the cart before the horse. Yea I spit lines and backhanded compliments, but not as a pick-and-choose from some memory bank of routines; I do it because it's now part of my personality, because teasing girls is fun for me - innately, as it is for them.

To simply answer your question about a 'sucky personality', it's one that's unattractive to people. A 'cool personality' on the other hand is one that attracts people to you (from both sexes).

 

[Crazystarf]

Game is a way to learn how the women's mindset works in the dating scene. The self-improvement is there to prepare you for the things that are necessary in order to be successful at the rules the game tells you.

I know this is a black and white view but if there was no such thing as game, the entire PUA community would not even exist. Some people are born confident; they are capable of being naturally "alpha". Others are not, but it doesn't mean they can't learn how to achieve confidence and be succesful.

Hence "learned alpha".

 

[upliftalldotcom]

Did any our ancestors prior to the 20th Century ever rely on learning this concept called "game" in order to bed women? "Game" is a social construct that has been in existence for just the past few decades.

 

[muscleman]

Did any our ancestors prior to the 20th Century ever rely on learning this concept called "game" in order to bed women? "Game" is a social construct that has been in existence for just the past few decades.

Yes, they did, just in different ways and degrees. They were raised by men who knew how to be men, not men with vaginas or manginas.

Also note that prior to the 20th century (prior to globalization) men didn't have the option to plunder as much pvssy as we do today. Lifetime partners across the board was much lower, because access was greatly restricted (geographically).

Game can be categorized as a lot of things. Alpha mimicry is one of them. Men have been trying to out-alpha each other since the dawn of civilization, so no, it's not a social construct.

 

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Muscleman nailed it. Or another way of putting it, unleashed hypergamy wasn't even in existance 4 + decades ago. Average Joe provider could acquire a wife who couldn't divorce on a whim for cash and prizes, who was also equal to or greater in looks to average Joe. Carousellers riding the top tier 10 percenter males were shamed by society both men and women.

Game was just a counter for men to compete with the 10 percenters now that average Joe has morphed into beta provider who gets no play and loathed by women as a general rule.