My sad uncle...

[SpartanWarrior77]

@SpartanWarrior77 I would encourage you to create a thread on nuance. There are many people who creep the forum without joining and also members here who could stand to learn nuance. The difficulty is that much like people skills...the people who most need the advice are the ones least likely to realize they need advice.

But if everyone goes by their objective results then there are results to evaluate...and go by.

I have benefitted from some of the guys here being a sounding board here privately and hopefully my opinion has benefited some of the guys privately as well.

Interpersonal relations are inherently nuanced and I think that gets glossed over around here.

Cheers

Thanks for the kind words. I will definitely keep in mind to create a thread on this topic.

 

[RickTheToad]

That's the million dollar question. The answer? Been divorced several times, getting old and descending rapidly into sickness. He thinks he won't be able to handle it (the divorce). I think he just hopes he dies quick. He stuffs himself with junk food all day and just lays around and does nothing. He even speaks of death quite often. I think he's given up on everything and is just trying to go gracefully and with some dignity.

The dude needs to work on his self-respect. That would not only help his health issues, but would help is relationship issues as well. As soon as a dude puts their foot on the floor and stands up to them, many females will readjust.

 

[RickTheToad]

@SpartanWarrior77 I would encourage you to create a thread on nuance. There are many people who creep the forum without joining and also members here who could stand to learn nuance. The difficulty is that much like people skills...the people who most need the advice are the ones least likely to realize they need advice.

But if everyone goes by their objective results then there are results to evaluate...and go by.

I have benefitted from some of the guys here being a sounding board here privately and hopefully my opinion has benefited some of the guys privately as well.

Interpersonal relations are inherently nuanced and I think that gets glossed over around here.

Cheers

No worries, you're welcome. ;p

 

[RickTheToad]

I think that we all agree by now that good looks is only opens the door and that is not enough to just enter it . Even though in some cases it is enough

having good game is only about improving your odds of finishing the seduction process , and the only way to improve your odds is to try as many things as possible in different situations and see how they go .

If you apply only the Mindset of either you put it otherwise I will next you , you will limit yourself a lot . But I have to agree , for a nice guy is a really good exercise to have , to get rid ot





I guess that is the same reason on why a lot of guys stay in this bad relationships , comfort and being scared that they will not find someone at least as good as what they currently have

One cannot use their magic of IDGAF attitude and game w/o the door being open first ;p

 

[christie]

Im not biting the hand that feeds me. I am very grateful for this forum! I love you guys! Sorry if that sounded judgmental.

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

Part of this IMO has to do with how crappy American culture is especially outside of the big cities. It is hopelessly boring and people don't develop good social skills. It's not that they are inherently dysfunctional. It is just that they rarely get opportunities to develop the right skills

this is very sad, and people don't believe its tru.
growing up with my mother and grandmother , my grandmother was a self-proclaimed ''matriarch'' she ran the household
all she did was sit on her ass and eat junk food all day , never went out ,never had friends(besides maybe 1 or 2 that she would talk to every blue moon)
moved out of LA at 7 and grew up and a town that was biased culturally and religiously , eventually i stopped complaining and just excepted it , i developed social anxiety , depression and anti-social disorder from never fitting in like i did from my hometown.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I feel bad for the guy. My aunt treats him like shyt but I also feel bad for her, the guy is so freakin clueless. At this point, I just laugh at them both for their lack of compatibility. The guy is rich and buys her everything she wants, jewelry, credit card debt bailouts, a whole house for god's sake! But she won't even get him a water if he asks for one. Granted, he is so boring and dull. All he does is lay around all day. He is suffering from kidney disease and stuff too so he's slowly but surely degenerating. I used to really resent my aunt for this but she can't help herself either. She is not a very kind hearted woman. She had a tough life too and doesn't really have family values. She is also very attractive and is used to being in control of men.

that is married life. Marriage especially in western world.

Learn from the 2. Don't play house. Similar to biz. Hire slow. Fire fast.

 

[BMX]

He should have been a pro boxer, or special forces and went out in a blaze. He'd enjoy life for sure. And not accept or tolerate those dogshet behaviors.

 

[Stoic]

Op Not sure if I agree with the sentiment that a lot of the guys on here are hopeless with women by the sheer fact that they are on a forum like this.

I think it runs the gamut on here. If you had to lump posters in categories, I'd guess Some guys are doing really well with women, some guys are doing poorly but want to do better, and there's another category that seems to be hard headed and just complain a lot, lol.

But you can always improve with women. Even if you naturally do well with women, I think you could always do better. It's not a binary thing. Theres gradations to this. You can always level up. Not by great pick up skills necessarily. But improving yourself to the point where you are attracting better and higher quality females.

Plus I dont think I'm in the minority when I say that I think male female dynamics are endlessly fascinating. I think a lot of guys are on here solely for that even after they've gotten things figured out.

 

[speed dawg]

Yeah definitely, this community strikes me as filled with a lot of guys who seem to give advice but probably are cr@p with women. I mean think about it... If you were really good with women, chances are that u wouldn't be on a forum like this anyway. Obviously, there are some guys here who are legit and have some skills but by in large, this can't be the case. The biggest thing that strikes me about the guys on this forum is that they don't understand nuance that much. They have a very SOGOP (shyt or get off the pot) mentality with women and they don't understand how to maneuver social situations very well.

Of course the guys on this forum are/were bad with women (at least at one time). Why are you here? To have everyone bask in your glory?

No, everyone initially comes here because of a struggle or frustration. And depending on the natural skillsets, they all eventually end up asking these questions because of our programming to put women on a pedestal. Even if you are a natural, you eventually meet a woman that you develop one-itis for, then it's game over. At minimum, you come here looking to get better.

I would recommend you stay off the high horse. If you are a self-proclaimed natural, you'll be better off elsewhere. We're here to get better and develop, regardless of your starting point.

Part of this IMO has to do with how crappy American culture is especially outside of the big cities. It is hopelessly boring and people don't develop good social skills. It's not that they are inherently dysfunctional. It is just that they rarely get opportunities to develop the right skills. It's SAD and one of the reasons I almost moved to Eastern Europe (I did for a few months and then things fell apart due to COVID).

This is opposite of my experiences. Urban areas are all at the mercy of 'trends' and definitely fall victim to social norms and the 'sheep' mentality. It seems people in rural areas are forced to be more creative BECAUSE of the boredom.

Be careful when the female snake posters around here start agreeing with you, by the way.

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

Of course the guys on this forum are/were bad with women (at least at one time). Why are you here? To have everyone bask in your glory?

No, everyone initially comes here because of a struggle or frustration. And depending on the natural skillsets, they all eventually end up asking these questions because of our programming to put women on a pedestal. Even if you are a natural, you eventually meet a woman that you develop one-itis for, then it's game over. At minimum, you come here looking to get better.

I would recommend you stay off the high horse. If you are a self-proclaimed natural, you'll be better off elsewhere. We're here to get better and develop, regardless of your starting point.


This is opposite of my experiences. Urban areas are all at the mercy of 'trends' and definitely fall victim to social norms and the 'sheep' mentality. It seems people in rural areas are forced to be more creative BECAUSE of the boredom.

Be careful when the female snake posters around here start agreeing with you, by the way.

I already apologized if I sounded judgmental towards the people here. I am by no means a natural and had some very bad struggles myself. I was simply making a point that some of the posters love to give advice when they're still years behind in terms of their development. I was specifically referring to how beginner guys don't understand nuance and how that took me forever to learn as well. Also, if your experience shows that people in the country are much more creative then so be it. That simply wasn't my experience. That's not to say that they aren't good people. It is just that in my experience, the culture doesn't revolve around intellectual pursuits but rather more physical ones like sports-culture, work, etc. Freud also criticized the US in that way and I think that this is partly due to the fact that the US is still a relatively new country and we don't have a long standing tradition of intellectual-culture like say the Classic Greeks and Romans.