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Accension

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So I've found myself to be in consistently awesome relationships and unless you're perfect, she's perfect and rainbow unicorns cu/\/\ diamonds, your relationship will at times smell like shi7.

This post, therefore applies to you and I'd like to give you the gas mask I've developed to live happily in an imperfect, shi7 filled world.
However, I won't be detailing how to get a girl, but I will tell you how to keep one.

Start with your head in the right place
I'd like to begin by going against what I've just said: Being in the mindset, "I have to try keep her because she's likely to wriggle away." is truly terrible.

Why would she even want to wriggle away?
The answer is in your insecurities.

From my past dealings with the poster Oldschooler I've become a huge fan of writing lists.
Begin writing a list of reasons she might want to wriggle away from you and then correct those reasons.

Here's mine:
  • My girlfriend is quite hot. She'd be better suited with an equally hot guy.
    • Appearance is a superficial thing. If your girlfriend would leave you for that reason, you don't want that bitc> anyway.
  • I'm not the 'type' of guy best suited for my girlfriend. She's probably more the cheerleader-jock dynamic.
    • Yet, she's dating a white-collar, clean-cut sort of guy so apparently not.
  • I'm too tall.
    • This is in no way a bad thing. Girls love the tall-short dynamic. Dominance blah-blah.
Bring all your insecurities to the surface and enter the relationship smelling clean.
'The Talk'
I'll just assume that you've picked a decent girl, preferably based on more than the size of her chest..

However, The Talk will establish if she is decent or even compatible, and at the same time, place some much needed boundaries down, so she's less likely to shi7 everywhere later.

I mean, if you never tell a girl she can't wear slu7ty clothes in public, don't be surprised if she tries it later, and half the time, it's just to see your reaction, but if she knows it'll be bad and you won't stand for it, she'll keep that dress to the bed room (where it stays :mad:).

The talk should therefore be spoken of early. Not first date early (you'd seem controlling) but early.
Now I ask you: What do you want from the relationship; what do you not want?

To start the talk with her without being all, "No bitc>, respect my authoratie." ask her what you've asked yourself.
Her answer is usually, "I don't know, what about you?" :cool:

But be sure to get her response, it'll clarify where you stand and where you hope the relationship to stand (or not stand).

When boundaries cross
In any relationship, at the start things literally smell light sunshine and awesome, but as time goes on, the smell of shi7 will overcome any relationship.

Considering, establishing boundaries is to avoid stepping in shi7, but when you do, you're going to want to know how to deal with it.

Ignore the smell
Yeah, I've seen tons of functioning relationships, as well as mine, use this strategy to biblical success and it's so simple, but an AFC wouldn't think he could get away with it..

Rather than try fix the problem itself, you just ignore it.
Surprisingly, this is successful in the long run, think marriage!

Say she's angry at you because you spend too much time with your friends, simply ignore the problem and later when she's all withdrawn just poke her and make her laugh.

You didn't fix the problem, the fact remains you ignored her for your friends but this is what all the good relationships are made from.

This is the cold hard truth: big dominant, alpha males simply don't care. "She'll be right. I'll make her happy later."

Clean the shi7
I think it's fair to say, if you try to clean shi>, you're going to smell like it.

AFCs think otherwise -- see, they think, "If I can get rid of the source (spend time with her and not my friends), she'll be happy).

Yeah, she's happy she has a new toy puppet but she's sad that she now has to find a new boyfriend.

Only clean the shi7 when you've genuinely created much more of it for her than she has you.
For example, cheating on her.

You're going to want to do a bit of cleaning there!

Pretend to clean the shi7
This is just as successful as ignoring the smell.
Rather than give her all the power, you basically compromise and get a little shi77ty but not so much as to be unattractive.

Say, she wants noodles for lunch and you want pizza.
So you have noodles and purposely take the bigger portion.

This post has probably gone against everything you think about the relationship, but this is the raw truth and you'll observe it in any successful relationship, and now, hopefully your own.

The reality of the matter is, you initially pursue her but after that it's pretty much her job.

That doesn't mean, "Oh, we're dating now, so she always has to initiate the kiss."
It just means, "Hey, I can get away with a ton of stuff because I'm this awesome guy that she loves."

In conclusion: The relationship is the thorny rose growing in a vase of shi7.

 

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Proselytiser said:
Good advice - especially the 'ignore the smell' part. Maybe it is counter-intuitive but most times I can't help but behave this way and it definitely works.
I could summarise that monsterous post: There exists a double standard. You can shi7 where ever you like, but she can not.
This is fact, so use it and abuse it.

Yes, what I am saying is the girl has NO power. You tell her she can use the toilet or GTFO.
 

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very good post

but a few things

wouldn't ignoring the sh1t eventually make things worse? If your relationship has a huge problem (like any other one would have at some point) then just sticking your head in the sand would not work. Ignoring your gf's request would only make things worse.

I would say compromising the sh1t would be better, that way you both can happily smell like sh1t together but then shed that smell for one of roses
 

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King post.

LTR game is king.

MeteorMash said:
very good post

but a few things

wouldn't ignoring the sh1t eventually make things worse? If your relationship has a huge problem (like any other one would have at some point) then just sticking your head in the sand would not work. Ignoring your gf's request would only make things worse.

I would say compromising the sh1t would be better, that way you both can happily smell like sh1t together but then shed that smell for one of roses
Ignoring the sh1t works because the sh1t is never somethig substantial. Sh1t comes and goes, attraction and interest falls and rises, but if you keep your game tight and yourself in check, then the sh1t will disappear just as mysteriously as it appears.

Comprimise and solving the sh1t are very risky words, mainly used by BETAS and FEMALES. It's not fair to say that you should never do these things, just very very rarely.

Eg. If you have slept with her mother. That may require some communication and consolidation.
 

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"I would say compromising the sh1t would be better, that way you both can happily smell like sh1t together but then shed that smell for one of roses"

Compromise mid relationship doesn't work.

A man has to maintain the frame that is to say his way of being from the very beginning of the relationship all the way through it.

The frame that is to say that man's way of life is what she apparently accepted and loved in him to be with him from the beginning and if he were to cave to her sh!t tests down the road, her requests for compromise to change him he fails the sh!t test and the frame is then placed squarely in the woman's control which spells disaster for the man in one way or another as either the relationship will end with the woman realizing what was once the man in her life turned into a pvssy whipped brow beaten beta b!tch boy or worse she gets off on controlling a man and will hold the relationship together while becoming verbally abusive, fat and lazy or staying attractive but cheating on her beta male with all the studly alphas that are out there.

AFC b!tches are happy to have any girl and any relationship so if a recovering AFC's frame is broken in this way and he gives it over to the woman to in his mind keep his relationship together he gives that woman the keys to his own undoing.

Never compromise to make a relationship work when it had been working quite well on what you'd been doing all along but then all of a sudden the woman brings up compromise and tries to change you.

Its just one of women's many sh!t tests to see what you are made of as a man.

If you tell her no compromise and point her to the door if she doesn't like what she's getting then sure sometimes that chick will leave but more often than not she'll stay and become ever more enamoured with you and even if she leaves you are better off anyway as if you bowed down and gave her the frame just to keep her she wouldn't respect you in the end anyway and you'd still be fvcked over.
 

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Great Post. This forum could always use posts on how to keep a girl.

+1
 

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Accension said:
In conclusion: The relationship is the thorny rose growing in a vase of shi7.
Some may laugh, but I think this is genius.

I think a HUGE idea that you were getting at with the "shi7" part is, not to try to change or be changed in a relationship.

If someone changes solely for you, you unconsciously lose respect for that person and it changes the way you interact, for example, wussy men let the women walk all over them, and this definitely changes their personality.
Women not only have all the power over them, but get bored at the lack of conflict/tension holding the relationship together.

A relationship is two SEPARATE people, not one person absorbing another.

I REALLY liked the part you wrote about boundaries.
This shed some major light on what I could do to improve my game - I had the realization that boundaries are MUCH HARDER to break than they are to set. I will focus more on setting boundaries as soon as I can whenever I am beginning a relationship with someone.

This thread is very repworthy. Thank you for writing this.
 
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