My Rant: The West's Obsession with Quantity over Quality

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Living close to the nation's capital, I look around me and I'm constantly reminded of where the country and the world, for that matter, is heading and I don't like it one bit. I see it everywhere: on TV, on the streets, and in magazines. One literally cannot go a day without being exposed to it. What I'm talking about is the worldwide obsession led by the United States to create a world that is micro-managed so thoroughly that simple pleasures would be impossible and absurd to even desire. I have no problem with anyone in particular so you won't find me demanding capital punishment for Bush, Clinton, Gates, or anyone who might be at or near the head of this movement, but I do see a problem that is only getting worse and worse with no solution in sight.

This problem is one of valuing quantity over quality, productivity over satisfaction, etc, etc. I'm watching TV and I see a commercial praising the latest technological research that will bring about roll-up TVs. Yeah, you'll be able to carry a TV like it's a newspaper. I'm not gonna say that ain't cool, but c'mon what is this world coming to if we can't go a few hours without our precious televisions. I'm walking down the street and see palm pilots and cell phones abound. Now, I own a cell phone and use it as well, but it seems everyone is becoming absorbed in them. Even that hottie at the street corner is talking on her phone so I can't approach her, damn it! I open up magazines and see advertisements for the latest gadgets, all with the intent of allowing the average man to live a mile a minute.

All these inventions, gadgets, whatever you wanna call them are cool as shyt, but it's the premise behind them that disturbs me. They are all leading us to a decidedly more anti-social, depressed state of being. Before electricity, we used to entertain ourselves by sitting around a candlelit room talking about how our day was. Social skills were much better, I'm sure. People were more friendly, less rude. I'm not saying anyone should desire to go back to such a primitive state of being, but look at where we are going. They say that knowledge\information is currently doubling every ten years. Can you imagine what this world will look like in just twenty years? Yeah, we'll have the coolest shyt imaginable, but we'll all be robotic drones.

The point of all this is that people don't want to talk to each other anymore. When I ride the subway, I notice 95% of people do one of three things. The first group of people is staring out the windows looking at the scenery that they have most likely seen every day for the last couple of years at least. A lot of these people will continue staring out the windows when we're underground, anything to avoid that taboo eye contact. The second group of people is staring at the floor. Ooh, I think that speck of dirt just moved! The final group is busy reading their notes from work that they were bored with all day, but hey if I'm reading this, I'll look busy and don't have to bother looking at anyone. I'll try to talk to someone on the train if I'm in the mood, but the whole scene depresses me and it's sad to see that's where we're heading.

So, I've talked about the problem. I don't have the time, energy, or vision to come up with a solution right now (although I would say Western religion is a big part of the problem). However, I must say I am equally disturbed that there seems to be no great hurry towards fixing this social trend. Every once in a while you'll hear or read something about how America is becoming too super-sized and we're forgetting about what's important, but it's as if these claims are meant to shut people like me up. In fact, look at the health problem in America. The fast food chains super size everything and, thus, the country gets fat. So, what's the solution? Why, let's sue the restaurants and make us a ton of money? After all, isn't that the American way! Ok, so food isn't the main point of my post, but it all fits under the same idea. The underlying structure of America and the West has gotten so f'd up that even "solutions" to problems value quantity over quality. Nobody wants to take the time to solve what is really wrong.

I hope this mass of commentary makes sense to a lot of you and I hope you agree and I'm not completely out of touch with reality. I try to do my best to be part of the remedy. Honestly, you know what, I think I got the solution. Turn Señor Fingers' Weapons of Mass Seduction into national, wait, no, international literature.

P.S. I actually wanted to vent about how it seems everyone meets friends\girls through school, work, and other friends, and it's like people resign themselves to fate rather than living spontaneously and randomly chatting up that hottie that they just saw. This is why I want to make approaches my specialty.

Disclaimer: I don't hate America, the West, or anyone. I just despise the direction it's going. I live in America. I love this country (although I do think patriotism is another f'n sick problem in the world, dammit another long post coming soon maybe).
 

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Ted Kazinsky was worried too!!

Honestly, read other books. Technology is not the problem.



You wrote:


"the latest technological research that will bring about roll-up TVs. "


I know someone who has developed a prototype of this technology. Could you tell me more about what you saw and where the research was done? Where did you see this? On T.V?


Geoff

coloradogeoff@yahoo.com
 

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to secure your financial future by providing a needfull or desirable product in the United States of America. And the people who consider buying these gadgets keep the dream alive...

Grow up.
 

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Great first post!

I actually did an in-class essay on the exact same topic - the lack of improvement socially while technology races ahead at a lightning pace.

Im guessing you live in a major city from your reference to the subway. A lot of this no-talking and eyes-looking-downwards is due to acquired habit. A bounded society (large city) influences everyone inside it. The way people around you act will definitely influence the way you act.

I just came back from a trip to Oahu, which I visit at least twice a year. Over on the islands, there is something very unique. People are extremely kind and open to everyone around them. You never hear horns honking, and fights dont break out often, even among the poorest and least educated.

Why?

Its not the swaying palm trees, the sexy girls, or the beautiful ocean. Its because the kindness has become built in, hardwired into all hawaiian individuals. Initially, they wanted to create this so that tourists would feel accepted when visiting. The result is a more positive environment. Even tourists catch on to the happiness. Everytime i return from Oahu, I find myself MUCH more open to strangers and unfamiliar people.

Therefore, you are completely correct. Society is not improving at a fast pace because people have had so many years to build up a natural tendency in the way they act.

What can we do? Simply try and improve yourself. Stop worrying about the people around you. They'll catch on to you, sooner or later. If you think society sucks, then influence it. One person can make a difference. Improve the way you act to the people around you, and in return, they will do the same.
 

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Yeah, try to buy real estate in Hawaii and see how "friendly" they are then.....So you experienced a "friendly" place where tourism is a major gold mine...oh how unique....
 

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21st Century Living - Matthew Good Band

you know today i was only asked one question
one question all day
do you know what that was?
do you want this supersized?

you know, come to think of it, i'd like the whole ****ing world supersized
supersize guns
supersize planes
supersize satellites
(think about how many more channels you could get with supersized satellites)

supersize sales --- how do you supersize a sale?



how bout we supersize 3rd world debt relief
supersize love
supersize honesty

supersize government
come to think of it
actually naw, lets not supersize the government

i'd like to supersize death
can i have a supersize death?
i'd like to supersize a death with a coke
you know what we need?
some backup singers hook up like a little jingle

it's alright sooner or later (repeated in background)

kinda like that
you know
supersize this song
really, that's the goal isn't it?
we can supersize the record
we'll sell more records
get some supersized records
that is after all
our ambition

fake lightning flashes over the skyline
a deer in your headlights
so gun it
gun it
gun it
gun it
gun it
we're singing songs about 21st century living
if hate's in your heart man
you'll take what you're given

ambition
ambition is a tricky thing
its like riding a unicycle over a dental floss tightrope over a wilderness of razorblades
ambition can backfire
ambition means more
ambition means faster
ambition means better

i wonder if you can sup..
can you supersize ambition?
does that make you ambitious if you supersize ambition?
around here our ambition hurts more than it helps
yeah around here our ambition throws a non-perishable item in a donation bin at christmas and it pats itself on the ****ing back
because it thinks its done something decent

yeah, we're supersizing ambition
make no mistake about it
ambition will televise the revolution
and it'll sell more ****ing commercial spots than the superbowl, the olympics, the world series and tragedy du jour combined

we're supersizing
we're supersizing the record cause we're ambitious

fake lightning flashes over the skyline
a deer in your headlights
so gun it
gun it
gun it
gun it
gun it
we're singing songs about 21st century living
if hate's in your heart man
you'll take what you're given
if hate's in your heart man
you'll take what you're given
 

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Originally posted by coldcoal
Yeah, try to buy real estate in Hawaii and see how "friendly" they are then.....So you experienced a "friendly" place where tourism is a major gold mine...oh how unique....
we have a house on oahu.
 

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Oh, well, if it's a song it MUST be true.

WTF happened to this place?
 

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thinking the same thing!

Yep it's a problem in our society now and i admit it's really screwed me up ... this goddamn computer!

we are too involved in researching in technology and what not and because of that we are creating an instantaneous deadly society where one SMS or Email can screw up almost anything! Back then if u wanted to tell someone something you'd write them a letter... and more often than not u'd sleep on it before mailing it and realise some sh*t should not be said... now the problem is since the majority of people carry cell phones now it's a direct way of communicating... sure it's all good... but it's readily available as a weapon of social destruction if you're in a ticked off mood... believe me ive sent my fair share of evil-type SMS's ... BUT because of this instant world we live in we are EXPECTED to be on our best behavior (watever that means) ... there's no escape from urr GF if u carry a mobile with u and urr on holidays tryna have a good time with mates... there's always the Off button but some can not turn this little machine off since it's used for work and emergency related things...

the other problem with technology is that yes we are becomming anti-social! because of this thing called the internet espeically internet dating, IRC clients and all those other chat clients... we are basically so used to messing with these applications THAT we are too chicken to go talk to that girl! the monitor keeps us safe from redicule... it surely has fu*ked up my social life.. but im starting to move away from the PC (about time too =))...

last problem is that we are too dependent on it all... what happens if one day all technology (electricity if u may) was shut down for a week? then we're all fu*ked aren't we?

although dont get me wrong technology is a good thing... but there are times where we have to say it's enough and stop ourselves from using the computer or acting on instincts and sending potentially socially damaging SMS messages or Emails to people... guess we need to learn how to relax...

IT'S the ability to be always found and spoken to that technology has in my opinion screwed up the dating scene... i remember my friend said to me that her never has owned a mobile (cellular) phone... and i remember something from this Site that the harder you are to find the more the chicks want to see you or talk to u or something...

just my two cent's worth
 

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Originally posted by coldcoal
Oh, well, if it's a song it MUST be true.

WTF happened to this place?
It's a perspective, not a truth. Same goes for every word you've posted.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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Alright, cool. 5 posts and you guys don't need any help at all. You know your sh*t. No need for me to stick around. Take care.
 

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Yes, my intelligence must be measured in the number of posts I make under this name. Uh oh watch out, I just got smarter!
 

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You were either banned, made a fool of, or came to disbelieve your own advice if you changed your handle here. Hardly a trait of beng "smarter". Deceptive maybe.....not smarter.
 

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I appreciate all the responses guys, but I think I ranted on technology too much and my point was misinterpreted. Basically, I think technology is cool as hell. However, I believe we are sacrificing a more important thing (sociability) to obtain better technology. Why can't we develop great technology yet build a friendly, sociable world? Damn hoes always talking on their cell phones when I want to approach them!
 

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I agree with the tone of your post, Infinity.

I also have some deep concerns about the status of our social institutions and how their stagnation or regression will impact and be impacted by technological innovation. Your observation of a symptom of urban anomie is nothing new, but a person can't help but wonder if it is getting worse.
 

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You want to see an obession with quantity over quality?

Check this site...we've always plugged "f**k as many girls as possible" instead of maintaining 1 or 2 or 3 QUALITY women.
 

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Good Point

Cell phones mean crappier conversations than ever before -- worse connections, more distractions while talking, less effort made to communicate.

Computers mean more time on the Internet learning less than if you read a book. Faster computers mean more time playing computer games learning useless skills like how to shoot using a spacebar key.

And TV? It's called the Idiot Box for a reason.

So drop your cell, don't upgrade your PC, and dump your TV. Spend the time talking to strangers. Use your DJ skills to find the quality ones and keep them around, without getting played for a sucker.
 

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Technology. WHile there are many problems caused by it, there are many things that it has brought to us as well.


There are how many people working because of new technology?

But lets digress. If things like cars, telephones, television, movies, computers, trains, and so on were never invented, we would never be having this conversation.

Because your world will normally revolve around the 100 or less people you knew. And if you lived in a more rural community, you'd have no access to books or libraries.

With the internet, you can find millions of things you'd never have been able to research before.

You have to take the good with the bad.


As for Hawaii, I loved Hawaii when I visited and yes they were friendly. But many people from Hawaii do not like outsiders. They are friendly because about 95 percent of the jobs in Hawaii are tourism. So if your life depends on smiling to strangers, I'm sure you'd do it too.

But if you do come from the NORTHEAST USA like a DC area, NYC, PHilly, Boston, etc....... people are a lot ruder and anti-social then if you came from someplace in Montana.

But as one newsreporter once said, there is a huge reason for this.

in the Northeast we live on top of one another. We live in small overpriced apartments, we push our ways through city streets, push our ways through the suburbs, deal with delinquents and bums everyday just to get to a job many of us hate.

Out in many midwest areas, there is nothing. You become friendlier because you don't see people for hours, maybe even days.

It's a lot easier to be friendly when you don't see that many people in a week then if you do.

Places like NYC are known for stabbing your own mother in the back to get that promotion. Yes you don't have to do that, but then your the guy or girl out on the street looking for a job because your brother or your best friend stabbed you in the back.

And look at XMAS. There were many parents who pushed and kicked, and pulled guns out to get that last emo doll or whatever is popular these days.

Why many people have become anti-social in the NorthEast USA and even down to Washington DC?

It's not because of technology, it's because there are millions and millions of people all cramped into small areas, all competing with one another.

And sometimes you're just having a bad day but you still have to deal with everybody at work, everybody on the street, everybody on the subway, everybody in traffic and on and on.

And more people are born or move into these areas everyday.

Technology hasn't been the one responsible for destroying society, people have.

Take a look at history, human beings are the ones who compete, who destroy, not technolgy.
 

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Oh I weep for everyone....

It's in human nature to improve - to extend our knowledge and make advancement in Technology.

Never forget, the reason we are here today - the reason Human beings have survived, conquored, explored and flurished is because of this.

Our survival depends on it.

I will also say, the more people become anti-social the better. It means I become better, my competition becomes less - and I guy the social benefits not them.
 

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I agree with alot of our authors conclusions about how technology is creating a different social structure in our society.

Read my post about cellphones in the hands of women. It drives me crazy.

But something to be taken from all of this is the following:

1) If you have the balls to talk to alot of different people, and I have at times, you are considered unique, and people love it.

Most people don't have the guts to talk to strangers. Instead of being one of the sheep, take your rightful place at the front of the herd!
 
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