My prediction for dating by 2028 and beyond the foreseeable future

[justaroundthecorner]

Regarding online dating: the new stage 0 is coming - a 5mins tops pre-date video call to assess whether it is worth to meet each other or not.

 

[Pandora]

I am a White man who has primarily interacted with White women over the years. My experiences can help with this.

There is a lot of competition for White women. White women are desired not only by White men but also by non-White men. The non-White men who tend to go for White women the most are Black men and South Asian men. Some Hispanic men are interested in White women but many Hispanic men are fine with the generally desirable Hispanic women.

White women are extremely fussy, especially middle class White women who typically have a bachelor's degree +, live in a bigger city, and have some sort of white collar job. These are the women I typically call bougie.

White women are often inclined to date using tech methods (swipe apps & fielding social media DMs). This increases their abundance.

@MatureDJ is correct that it can be difficult for White men to stand out with White women. Most White women will primarily date White men, but she's trying to chase the top tier of White men, especially if she fits that bougie description from above. Many mid-tier White men get ignored by even mid-tier White women who are focused on chasing mainly top tier White men.

Okay so white women are pricing themselves out of the market. So Asian women have filled that market vacuum. Makes sense.

 

[Smok1nAce]

American white women are just the poster for the American dream. Same with the McMansion and big black SUV.

and if you still a sleep that’s all it is a dream.

Nothing special about them besides the fact that they’re the most protected race of women on earth to their own demise.

 

[New_Journey]

My counter argument is to leave your house and witness the vast number 18 karen haircut couples.

Standard american white women

You are referring to all white women, not the karen ones in particular.

Those white women only make themselves openly available to non-white men when they are older (35sh and older) or completely on their own.

We all can see the way you're coping right now because what you're saying have no basis, only in your head. Awww poor kid, you haven't fvcked a hot white woman in your life? Or you couldn't handle them? The problem that you svck as a seducer, is you not them.

American white women are just the poster for the American dream. Same with the McMansion and big black SUV.

and if you still a sleep that’s all it is a dream.

Nothing special about them besides the fact that they’re the most protected race of women on earth to their own demise.

Another guy who's coping. Where did you hear that? I'm latino and I haven't heard that white women are the american dream hahaha who are you? In fact, the stereotype of white woman in my community is blue eyes, white skin, blonde hair. White women are the same as any other woman, take them off the pedestal, it will go better for you.

 

[CornbreadFed]

We all can see the way you're coping right now because what you're saying have no basis, only in your head. Awww poor kid, you haven't fvcked a hot white woman in your life? Or you couldn't handle them? The problem that you svck as a seducer, is you not them.

Have fun amigo

 

[CornbreadFed]

American white women are just the poster for the American dream. Same with the McMansion and big black SUV.

all which are overrated af after you acquire each

 

[SW15]

bougie White women.

I would say that to that particular group of white women, economic status matters the most; hence, they aim for the top-tier guys. Here is the reality, though, and not to sound cliche: There aren't a lot of rich, "clouted" attractive Chads to go around.

There is validity to this. It is age dependent for bougie White women. I see it in 3 groups

White women 18-24: These White women tend to be in college. Some 23-24 year olds might be a graduate level program and others might be in their first 1-2 years in the working world after a bachelor's degree. Most will be seeking the hot 6'0"+, fit/muscular guy. Looks matter much more than money here, though a guy driving a Porsche or a BMW around campus can get pussie off of his family money that got him the Porsche/BMW.

The best way to attract bougie White women 18-24 is be the hot guy at the foam/beach party at Spring Break like Rollo and Rich Cooper talk about in their written materials and video content.

White women 25-29: The gap between looks and money closes more noticeably for these women. Bougie White women are often seeking a White guy with solid looks but also a decent enough white collar job to bring home to their parent/parents. They might also be thinking about getting the ring and having the bougie wedding around this time. They start to become more career oriented during these years in many cases if their college or early post bachelor's degree relationships aren't going more than 2-3 years.

White women 30+: These women will be the most concerned about money but they still will want a guy with some looks in their 30s and early 40s. The childless ones tend to be the most career oriented after age 30. A lot of these career women make their own money so the pull of an above average job isn't that great. However, a woman making something like $90,000 - $120,000 a year on her own will be impressed by $200,000+.

A 30 something woman making $80,000-$95,000 a year isn't going to be impressed by a 35-44 year old man making $100,000 - $130,000, even though that's a very solid living.

There was a time where average(and even slightly above average) WW-Bougie women knew their place; they Married young, even if the guy wasn't top tier but showed massive potential. However, in the last 15 years, with social media/OLD etc. They hook up with more of these high-tier men usually ONS, short flings, FWB, bootycall etc. They think that's their level when these same women knew 25 years ago knew that it was just a one-off. Now, these women can hook up with Top-Tier guy every week easily, however, the top Tier guy has her on a rotation and is not committing to her long term. These women would rather be part of a rotation or FWB, than be with a man on their level. They loathe men on their level because either he is not attractive enough or his income isn't attractive enough to her.

All of this is accurate for bougie White women.

I myself have seen these women panic at 35 years old, then quickly marry some "Beta Bucks" out of the blue (a guy who has good income, decent social status, but they are not sexually attracted too) after riding the carousel hard in their 20s and early 30s. These women are not "wifey material" brainwashed by social media and the rot of feminism. I'm not just talking about the average ones but pretty ones as well. They usually will cheat on their husbands on a night out at the bar/club, or some random hook up in a hotel out of town, on girls trip to Jamaica.

This is mostly on point. I could argue some small points here but it's not worth sidetracking a quality discussion over that.

you have the obvious cleat/status chasers that only go for athletes.

This can happen on college campuses and we have talked about that on the major college threads before.

What's worth discussing here is women 22-34 in big cities going for professional athletes.

There are some 22-34 year old bougie White women in big cities who have sex with pro athletes in the big 4 team sports and some higher tier guys in individual Olympic/pro sports.

These interactions rarely work out well long term because of the travel schedules for pro athletes.

If they do get with a non-white guy prior, then it is usually in secret or short fling. For white guys, these women are huge nutcases that destroy them mentally.

I have seen this happen with some under 35 White women.

 

[Smok1nAce]

You are referring to all white women, not the karen ones in particular.


We all can see the way you're coping right now because what you're saying have no basis, only in your head. Awww poor kid, you haven't fvcked a hot white woman in your life? Or you couldn't handle them? The problem that you svck as a seducer, is you not them.


Another guy who's coping. Where did you hear that? I'm latino and I haven't heard that white women are the american dream hahaha who are you? In fact, the stereotype of white woman in my community is blue eyes, white skin, blonde hair. White women are the same as any other woman, take them off the pedestal, it will go better for you.

are you trolling?

Do you know anything about American history.
I don’t think you caught the sarcasm in my post either. A white Women could scream rape and you’d be in handcuffs and in jail before you could say I didn’t do it.

 

[CornbreadFed]

are you trolling?

Do you know anything about American history.
I don’t think you caught the sarcasm in my post either. A white Women could scream rape and you’d be in handcuffs and in jail before you could say I didn’t do it.

The whole manosphere & male dating advice space alone is mainly revolving around toxic white women behavior. This guy has to be trolling lol.

 

[New_Journey]

toxic white women behavior.

Cause I think different that you, I'm trolling? What does "toxic white female behavior means"?

 

[CornbreadFed]

Cause I think different that you, I'm trolling? What does "toxic white female behavior means"?

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probably the reason you got snipped and don't want to have kids

 

[MatureDJ]

Lol…most guys here won’t admit it…but there typically attracted to the Liberally minded white girls who does Pilates, support a woke charitable cause and eat a scrambled eggs, avocado cream cheese bagel sandwich for breakfast lol….lol if you want those girls you’ve got to sell your soul to so many things man…so I suggest maybe getting some interesting hobbies ...

HobbyCope

 

[MatureDJ]

Regarding online dating: the new stage 0 is coming - a 5mins tops pre-date video call to assess whether it is worth to meet each other or not.

It's OVER for 5MinuteCels.

 

[Solomon]

Regarding online dating: the new stage 0 is coming - a 5mins tops pre-date video call to assess whether it is worth to meet each other or not.

This is already happening, and became huge during COVID, I don't find anything wrong with a quick phone call (or even facetime I've done it). If you can pre-screen people via call or video it's easy to make sure they are not a catfish, and you guys can communicat. Pre-screening like that has saved me time on going out with women that would have been potential duds

 

[New_Journey]

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probably the reason you got snipped and don't want to have kids

You are using another guy's reason to prove a point? Can you actually be original for once and say something that makes sense?

 

[CornbreadFed]

This is already happening, and became huge during COVID, I don't find anything wrong with a quick phone call (or even facetime I've done it). If you can pre-screen people via call or video it's easy to make sure they are not a catfish, and you guys can communicat. Pre-screening like that has saved me time on going out with women that would have been potential duds

This should definitely be the Meta for OLD

 

[CornbreadFed]

You are using another guy's reason to prove a point? Can you actually be original for once and say something that makes sense?

You are the one in denial about toxic white women and to just have game bro, but you got snipped because you had a bad experience with a toxic woman. Your post history contradicts your stance in this topic.

 

[SW15]

The whole manosphere & male dating advice space alone is mainly revolving around toxic white women behavior.

I'd agree. White women are the women that are in the most demand in the United States market.

White women's behavior has gotten continually more toxic since the era of Second Wave Feminism (1960s-1980s).

Regarding online dating: the new stage 0 is coming - a 5mins tops pre-date video call to assess whether it is worth to meet each other or not.

This is already happening, and became huge during COVID, I don't find anything wrong with a quick phone call (or even facetime I've done it). If you can pre-screen people via call or video it's easy to make sure they are not a catfish, and you guys can communicat. Pre-screening like that has saved me time on going out with women that would have been potential duds

The pre-date video call is not a new idea. It's a re-packaging of an old 1990s-2000s idea from the website era of online dating when pre-date phone calls were common.

Pre-date phone calls fell out of fashion circa 2010 as phone calls in general fell out of fashion. I also believe that a lot of daters discovered that pre-date phone calls in the 2000s were poor predictors of a good first date that would lead to a second date.

The video component added a new layer to it and I think improved it in a way. Video calls are likely a better predictor than regular phone calls of the possibility of a good first date.

The biggest problem with pre-date video calls is that it adds an extra layer of complexity. Arranging a pre-date video call for pre-screening isn't efficient. At that point, a man might as well go out in the real world and try to pre-screen for dates.

I always think that the best pre-screening is done through real world approaching methods.

I've not been able to find efficiencies with dating via tech methods. This is different than online shopping, where it can be more efficient to buy something online as compared to in-store (depending on product).

 

[New_Journey]

You are the one in denial about toxic white women and to just have game bro, but you got snipped because you had a bad experience with a toxic woman. Your post history contradicts your stance in this topic.

Birds of a feather flock together. When the black pills guys agree with you, you have a problem.

 

[Solomon]

The video component added a new layer to it and I think improved it in a way. Video calls are likely a better predictor than regular phone calls of the possibility of a good first date.

The biggest problem with pre-date video calls is that it adds an extra layer of complexity. Arranging a pre-date video call for pre-screening isn't efficient. At that point, a man might as well go out in the real world and try to pre-screen for dates.

Nonsense You don't have to FaceTime for hours on end, a 10-25 minute FaceTime is far more efficient than texting a girl for a week, and you'd be surprised how many women are up for it. It's a great way to filter women for communication styles and catfishes, especially girls who have extra pounds. I will say the one major drawback is that it does kill the element of surprise or mystery of a first date. I don't FT much, but it has been a great way to weed out women that weren't as attractive as their pictures etc. FT can also be fun if the girl is freaky and wants to show you some tits lmfao

I always think that the best pre-screening is done through real world approaching methods.

I've not been able to find efficiencies with dating via tech methods. This is different than online shopping, where it can be more efficient to buy something online as compared to in-store (depending on product).

Totally agree with this, in person you get so much more even if the interaction is only 5 minutes, With OLD you don't even know half the time if the person is going to be as attractive as their pictures, most women use filters, have pics up from 20-100 pounds ago etc. In person is always the preferred way for a seasoned Don Juan