My penny stock plays

[cordoncordon]

Nonsense. You can use leverage. With good plays you can magnify your winnings (or losses). So yes, it's very possible to make large profits but with increased risk.

No offense, but I always get a kick out of 20 something year old kids who have hardly traded a stock in their life telling me what is right or wrong. I've been doing this for 20 years, since I was a kid. I do this for MY LIVING. I do know what I'm talking about. That is not bragging. That is fact.

I'll give you an example of why you are wrong. Lets say you have a person on this board, or just someone in general, who has $1,000 in their stock account. The other day he could have bought SSOL at around 3 cents. So for that $1000 he could have bought 33,000 shares. 3 days later he could have sold those shares at .09, and gotten back $3,000. That is 200% and $2,000 profit in 3 days. There is just NO WAY possible that a person with $1000 is going to be able to buy lets say 30 shares of BP at $38 and make anywhere close to that kind of money in 5 YEARS, let alone 3 days. If he makes $100 in a year with that stock, that is a GREAT year. Yes, people with more cash can buy on margin. But lets say you have $10,000 in your account, and you use margin power to buy $30,000 worth of BP. Lets say BP goes up 50 cents in the next few days. You now have made $500 in few days, but you risked $30,000! Lets say BP had another oil well explode overnight and the stock tanked $10 while you were holding it, you are now out $10,000.

This is why penny stocks, while risky to a degree, are imo better buys. You just have to know when to get in, and get out. These are not buy and holds except for a select few like RTGV. Once you learn the game, you will see what I'm talking about. Not to mention, while big board stocks are influenced by the over all markets to a large extent (for example if you own MSFT and the Nasdaq and Dow have a bad week, chances are MSFT will trade down that week even though it may be going great guns), penny stocks are pretty much immune to what the larger markets are doing. If the Dow is down 500 points monday, it wont affect the penny market to any degree. Plus, most penny stock companies only like to put out GOOD news, not bad, so that is always an added bonus.

 

[Trader]

No offense, but I always get a kick out of 20 something year old kids who have hardly traded a stock in their life telling me what is right or wrong. I've been doing this for 20 years, since I was a kid. I do this for MY LIVING. I do know what I'm talking about. That is not bragging. That is fact.

Of course you know what you are doing, it took you 20 years to learn pumping and dumping and you finally mastered it.

What's next, you are going to tell us that it took you 50 years to learn how to fry an egg?

I'll give you an example of why you are wrong. Lets say you have a person on this board, or just someone in general, who has $1,000 in their stock account. The other day he could have bought SSOL at around 3 cents. So for that $1000 he could have bought 33,000 shares. 3 days later he could have sold those shares at .09, and gotten back $3,000. That is 200% and $2,000 profit in 3 days.

Stop.

How do you know SSOL would have jumped from 3 cents to 9 cents? Of course because you have an *in* with the group of investors, err pump and dumpers, err investors.

This is why penny stocks, while risky to a degree, are imo better buys. You just have to know when to get in, and get out.

This is golden. Of course you know when to get *in* because you know when the promotion starts.

But if you are an outsider like Julius Siezeher, you get killed and lose over 90% of your money in ENTI.PK and LCRE.PK.

So tell me why should Julius Siezeher play pennies when you have all the advantages and he has none? He is always late to the party (buys too late) and stays at the party too long and the cops bust him (sells too late).

 

[Alle_Gory]

No offense, but I always get a kick out of 20 something year old kids who have hardly traded a stock in their life telling me what is right or wrong. I've been doing this for 20 years, since I was a kid. I do this for MY LIVING. I do know what I'm talking about. That is not bragging. That is fact.

I don't know how well you trade, what I do know is the recent pump and dump. You're the trader equivalent of a shady used car salesman, that's all I know because that's all I see.

That is 200% and $2,000 profit in 3 days. There is just NO WAY possible that a person with $1000 is going to be able to buy lets say 30 shares of BP at $38 and make anywhere close to that kind of money in 5 YEARS, let alone 3 days.

Of course not. But by trading BP you are not going to lose anywhere that much money compared to pennies if you're the last one holding the bag.

Not to mention, while big board stocks are influenced by the over all markets to a large extent (for example if you own MSFT and the Nasdaq and Dow have a bad week, chances are MSFT will trade down that week even though it may be going great guns)

Sounds good to me. Market conditions and general feeling towards a company make it more predictable and an overall safer trade.

 

[cordoncordon]

Of course you know what you are doing, it took you 20 years to learn pumping and dumping and you finally mastered it.

What's next, you are going to tell us that it took you 50 years to learn how to fry an egg?

Actually, my two biggest hits in my life are MRNA and DNDN, two nasdaq stocks.

How do you know SSOL would have jumped from 3 cents to 9 cents? Of course because you have an *in* with the group of investors, err pump and dumpers, err investors.



This is golden. Of course you know when to get *in* because you know when the promotion starts.

But if you are an outsider like Julius Siezeher, you get killed and lose over 90% of your money in ENTI.PK and LCRE.PK.

How does anyone know anything will do anything? People didn't know a BP oil well would blow up the and stock would tank, but it did. People didn't know AIG or Lehman would go BK, but they did. You just try to take in all the information you can and try and weed out the BS from the real sh!t and make an informed decision. Sometimes I am right, sometimes I am wrong. I'm not a psychic. I don't have this magic "in" that you seem to want to fantasize about. Yes, I know people. Yes people tell me things. But sometimes that is worse than knowing nothing. I'm down decent money on RTGV right now, and people tell me stuff about that stock all the time. How did that help me? I'm buying SRCP from .0035 on down, currently at .0027, and people tell me stuff about that? How is that helping me.

So tell me why should Julius Siezeher play pennies when you have all the advantages and he has none? He is always late to the party (buys too late) and stays at the party too long and the cops bust him (sells too late).

There are plenty of message boards out there where people can get info on penny stocks and see what is hot and what isn't. And you can use that info to buy early if you choose the right ones. As for selling, that is up to each individual. No one can make that decision for you. Ive sold stocks at 4 cents that went on to 20 cents. Ive also sold stocks at 10 cents that a day later were at 2 cents. You just make the best of what info you have.

Really, you are just coming across as a jealous little kid at this point. Don't you have a life? Instead of complaining and whining all the time, why don't you sit and LISTEN. You might learn something.

 

[cordoncordon]

Of course not. But by trading BP you are not going to lose anywhere that much money if you're the last one holding the bag.

Really? Did you not see my example up thread? Tell that to the people that held BP overnight after the oil explosion. They lost much more than $1000 that I can promise you. Especially if they bought on margin. I'm sure many lost their life savings, especially in England. That isnt going to happen in a penny stock for the most part.

Please keep talking, your knowledge and wisdom is astounding me.

 

[Alle_Gory]

sit and LISTEN. You might learn something.

All right, how do you decide which one to pick and what kind analysis do you do before hand?

Since you get rid of them quick, I don't think you do too much fundamental.

Really? Did you not see my example up thread? Tell that to the people that held BP overnight after the oil explosion. They lost much more than $1000 that I can promise you. Especially if they bought on margin. I'm sure many lost their life savings, especially in England. That isnt going to happen in a penny stock for the most part.

I should have been clearer. I meant trade on margin for a short term... maybe a week or so. I would hate to get a margin call because of what happened to BP.

Sucks that they lost their life savings, but this is why you diversify with something that important.

 

[Trader]

Let's stop and think about this logically

Why do the biggest and baddest players in the world NOT play penny stocks? You can argue that with $1B to invest in, they are too big for penny stocks.

But why do the smaller hedge funds ($10MM and down) NOT play penny stocks? Would any hedge fund state: 'Our goal is to make money in penny stocks given the huge risk adjusted ROI.'

They would be laughed out of the room.

So either cordoncordon is a genius for playing penny stocks, or he is a village idiot, and being the betting man that I am, I am betting on the latter.

But then again, cordoncordon is making coin from pennies, and he claims that it's just based on 'solid due dilligence' and not pumping and promoting.

That was straight-up kool-aid.

 

[cordoncordon]

Let's stop and think about this logically

Why do the biggest and baddest players in the world NOT play penny stocks? You can argue that with $1B to invest in, they are too big for penny stocks.

But why do the smaller hedge funds ($10MM and down) NOT play penny stocks? Would any hedge fund state: 'Our goal is to make money in penny stocks given the huge risk adjusted ROI.'

They would be laughed out of the room.

So either cordoncordon is a genius for playing penny stocks, or he is a village idiot, and being the betting man that I am, I am betting on the latter.

But then again, cordoncordon is making coin from pennies, and he claims that it's just based on 'solid due dilligence' and not pumping and promoting.

That was straight-up kool-aid.

I've never said I don't tout/pump a stock. Obviously talking about stocks on this board could be considered "pumping". And there are lots of penny stock message boards where people are doing just that. It is a lot easier to talk about a penny stock at half a penny that could move 100% in a day than a $100 stock that might move $15 in a year. If I find a stock I like, heck ya I'll pump it if i feel it's worth pumping. I love to pump pump pump. Megan Fox is worth pumping. My gf is worth pumping. The more things I can pump, the better I feel. Especially women and stocks.

And btw we know, you're a virgin, you don't like to pump things. Women apparently, and especially stocks.

As far as why the bigger players don't play penny stocks? There are some that do. You just don't hear about them. You hear about the Goldmans and the Morgans and the Lehmans because most people have their retirement and their pensions in big board stocks, and they control most of that. But everyone has their own niche. Doesn't make one better than anyone else's.

As for some hedge funds not playing pennies, some do, but the simple answer is most are not allowed to. Their are SEC regulations and individual rules as well that state funds are only allowed to invest in stocks above a certain dollar amount. Usually at least $1 but often times $5. That is to prevent a fund from unfairly influencing the price of the much lower priced stocks. Plus, lets face it, if a stock is at $5 or higher, odds are the fundamentals of the company are such that it is in decent shape and not ready to go BK any time soon. So these funds that are playing with other peoples monies feel much safer in those types of stocks. I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to put Mike and Mary Smith's retirement money in a .003 penny stock either.

Any other questions? Because trust me, I have answers ALLLL day long.

 

[Trader]

As for some hedge funds not playing pennies, some do, but the simple answer is most are not allowed to. Their are SEC regulations and individual rules as well that state funds are only allowed to invest in stocks above a certain dollar amount. Usually at least $1 but often times $5.

Wrong.

Those rules apply to mutual funds, NOT hedge funds.

If you know anything, hedge funds have been outside SEC regulation, and only now is their a push to actually try to regulate them.

I wouldn't want to put Mike and Mary Smith's retirement money in a .003 penny stock either.

Practically the only sensible thing you have said on this thread

Any other questions? Because trust me, I have answers ALLLL day long

You have all the wrong answers

 

[cordoncordon]

Wrong.

Those rules apply to mutual funds, NOT hedge funds.

If you know anything, hedge funds have been outside SEC regulation, and only now is their a push to actually try to regulate them.



Practically the only sensible thing you have said on this thread



You have all the wrong answers

Actually I said FUNDS, "some do" but not the biggies as in Goldman, Morgan, etc. The investment firms. Most of the hedge funds I know of short penny stocks, not go long on them. If I could short penny stocks, and I actually can but I have to cover the day of, I would be a multi billionaire by now.

Actually my answers have been right on target. And the most correct one was where I said you don't like to pump. WOMEN included Mr. Virgin. Is that why you are so angry all of the time? Because you need to get laid? Don't worry, geek boys get laid too...eventually. By Ug's. Or other guys.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Actually my answers have been right on target. And the most correct one was where I said you don't like to pump. WOMEN included Mr. Virgin. Is that why you are so angry all of the time? Because you need to get laid? Don't worry, geek boys get laid too...eventually. By Ug's. Or other guys.

This thread isn't about HIS sexual habits but about YOUR investments in penny stocks.

So you admitted to pumping and dumping. Thank you for being honest... eventually.

 

[Trader]

what's up I'm Staten on iHub.. I came across RTGV in this board and checked it out.. cordoncordon when RTGV is at .10 next Summer, trader won't be saying anything.. I've been in RTGV for a while..

Good for you

we just got financials which were solid.. the cc went well.. the company had a lot to say..

Negative operating cash flow of $110,000, that's rock solid

$0 in A/R but $1,144,000 in A/P, that's beautiful

What's next, you are going to tell me the financials are solid because of their negative retained earnings.

You are making MMRF.OB look good by comparison

I know, I know, you are saying this company has a bright future, LED bright. If by bright, you mean doubts about it's ability to continue as a going concern, then I agree with you completely.

you seem to know this.. minimal buying will send this thing up.. all we are waiting for is some solid buying

You are waiting for solid buying, you are going to wait forever because no way am I getting into this POS. You really are barking up on the wrong tree, you should be pumping on the Yahoo Finance Message boards, that's where all the action is.

 

[cordoncordon]

Good for you




Negative operating cash flow of $110,000, that's rock solid

$0 in A/R but $1,144,000 in A/P, that's beautiful

What's next, you are going to tell me the financials are solid because of their negative retained earnings.

You are making MMRF.OB look good by comparison

I know, I know, you are saying this company has a bright future, LED bright. If by bright, you mean doubts about it's ability to continue as a going concern, then I agree with you completely.




You are waiting for solid buying, you are going to wait forever because no way am I getting into this POS. You really are barking up on the wrong tree, you should be pumping on the Yahoo Finance Message boards, that's where all the action is.

See this is where your full idiocy comes whining through in full force. You now take the prize as the most clueless poster on this forum.

Beyond the fact that most penny stock companies are start ups, or scams, and looking at fundamentals is a pointless act.....RTGV just completed a MERGER. As in they were a shell before that. Do you know what that means or do I need to explain it to you? So very soon, once next financials are released-you WILL be able to look at the fundamentals of the company. But lets give them more than 2 months to get going hey??

If you care to look, they just released financials. Audited financials. They are a fully reporting SEC regulated company. In these financials they are forecasting up to $8 Million in real revenues for the first year. They are forecasting up to $50 Million in real revs in 2-3 years. This is as real a company as MSFT. The two gentleman in charge now are top notch. They are in a VERY fast growing field ala pay pal. The stock trades just over a penny with a market cap under $2 M. I dare anyone to find a real company that could be doing up to $50 M in profitable revenues within 2-3 years that trades at a market cap that low. HTLJ is close, but not this bad.

RTG Ventures, Inc. Files 8K-A, Including Consolidated Financials and Business Development Update


Today, RTG Ventures, Inc. (OTCBB: RTGV) files an 8K-A containing its consolidated financial statements to May 2010. This completes the acquisitions made through the Share Exchange Agreement with RTG Ventures (Europe) Ltd, which was formerly called Cloud Channel Ltd. The audited financials of RTG (Europe) Ltd will be included in all future 10-K and 10-Q reports. The Company will file its annual 10-K, required under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, for the fiscal year ending August 31, 2010, by November 30, 2010. Highlights of the RTG Ventures (Europe) Ltd's consolidated financials include revenues of $1,657,652 and gross profit of $688,679 to May 31, 2010. The filing will be available on Edgar and www.rtgventures.com once it has been filed with the SEC.

Dominic Hawes-Fairley, CEO & President, said: "We regard filing the audited financials as a huge milestone in our development because we've now officially integrated three companies into the RTG Ventures Group. Over the next few weeks, we're going to rename our two key operating companies RTG Media Systems and RTG Payment Systems and spin Bitemark's product development and manufacturing division into a separate company, RTG Manufacturing. This will allow us to provide integrated, turnkey solutions to customers under a unified brand. Bitemark's wholesale and logistics division will be bolstered with the acquisition of a franchiseable retail operation, which has already been agreed, and this company will assume responsibility for extending RTG's logistics capabilities.

"Digital Clarity continues to exceed its forecasts, both top and bottom line, and is a real rising star for the Group. There's no hotter business sector than social media right now and the team at Digital Clarity is at the forefront of social media marketing. Ideally, we'd like to accelerate Digital's growth with an acquisition in the next 12 months."

Revenues to July 31, 2010 are approximately $2,000,000 subject to exchange rate fluctuation, and within 12 months the company is forecasting annualized revenues from organic growth of around $8,000,000 as its core technologies come online. RTG Ventures' joint-ventured payment systems business, to be called RTG Payment Systems, launched at the end of May 2010 and its first products have now entered testing prior to a full market release. Stephan Meloy-Antebi, RTG Ventures, Inc.'s Director of Business Development, has been evaluating business cases for the roll out of the RTG Payment Systems technology.

Meloy-Antebi said: "As well as providing an embedded payment mechanism for RTG Media Systems, we've been identifying additional niche markets to speed adoption of the technology. There are many companies operating in the wireless payment space, but our model will offer a creative and unique solution, one with much bigger benefits to small business and live events alike. We will be able to deliver a full service, integrated payment solution to these markets with media, payment, merchandising, marketing and distribution services all supplied as a turnkey solution."

With the first three companies now integrated, RTG Ventures is seeking further acquisitions to speed its development and accelerate revenue growth.

Hawes-Fairley concluded: "We have a competitive business plan which will be further enhanced by acquiring additional talent and technology to expand market share. Future acquisitions will not be restricted to the United Kingdom because our market is global. While the UK is a great testing ground for us, our growth path dictates that we operate internationally and look for the best commercial opportunities and brightest talent wherever they are."

About RTG Ventures, Inc.

RTG Ventures, Inc. is a NASDAQ BB listed company (OTCBB: RTGV) offering a turnkey media monetization solution to rights owners of music video content. At the heart of RTGV's total product offering is a Monetization Platform which allows rights owners to define and tag media content in detail, set and enforce rights management and distribution rules, receive payment on distribution and obtain detailed analytics in real time.

RTG Ventures is organized as three divisions; Media Systems, Payment Systems and Software and Services, each of which contains both wholly-owned companies and joint ventures with independent business plans, strategies and management. In addition to servicing their discrete markets, these companies all contribute to RTG Venture's total product offering for media rights owners.

Safe Harbor Provisions

The foregoing contains certain predictive statements that relate to future events or future business and financial performance. Such statements can only be predictions, and the actual events or results may differ from those discussed due to, among other things, those risks described in RTGV's reports filed with the SEC. Opinions expressed herein are subject to change without notice. This document is published solely for information purposes, and is not to be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any securities
in any state. Past performance does not guarantee future performance. Additional information is available upon request.

 

[cordoncordon]

You are waiting for solid buying, you are going to wait forever because no way am I getting into this POS. You really are barking up on the wrong tree, you should be pumping on the Yahoo Finance Message boards, that's where all the action is.

So since you and your $600 aren't going to buy the stock...no one else will? Now I see where this is all coming from. YOU. ARE. INSANE. Like crazy train crazy. What meds are you on?

You have no idea what is coming clown...no idea.

 

[cordoncordon]

This thread isn't about HIS sexual habits but about YOUR investments in penny stocks.

So you admitted to pumping and dumping. Thank you for being honest... eventually.

Alley....Another kid spreading his wings. Just like a young man coming in for a quickie.
Leaves everyone so unsatisfied.

What wasn't I honest about? I have stated repeatedly, to the point of ridiculousness, that 99.99999% of most penny stocks-you get in, you get out. I have said that 30 times alone just in the past week. If you want to call that a pump and dump, fine, what have you. These are penny stocks, most of them have some form of dilution (I know you don't know what that means but I'm to sick of this to even explain it) taking place so when a penny stock isnt actively being bought hard, since new shares are trickling into the float almost on a daily basis so that the company can raise funds, many have no choice but to slowly fall until the next spike. There are exceptions, but that is a good rule to go by.

THAT is the name of the game in penny stocks. You either understand that and play by those rules or you will DIE. If you don't like it, then FINE. Go trade DELL or IBM or get your 3% savings bonds and be happy ok?

 

[Trader]

What wasn't I honest about? I have stated repeatedly, to the point of ridiculousness, that 99.99999% of most penny stocks-you get in, you get out. I have said that 30 times alone just in the past week. If you want to call that a pump and dump, fine, what have you.

Agreed, penny stocks are pump and dump, and you pump so you can dump. It's all settled.

 

[Staten]

Trader you are a f***ing idiot. Big board stocks your ROI is a percent. Penny Stocks your ROI is a multiple. RTGV will multiply your money.

 

[Trader]

Trader you are a f***ing idiot. Big board stocks your ROI is a percent. Penny Stocks your ROI is a multiple. RTGV will multiply your money.

Do you ever plan on making posts that relate to girls, or did you sign up on SoSuave bafflingly to talk about stocks.

Your first post on this site is on this thread, your second post is also on this thread, I will let everyone else connect the dots

 

[Evzone]

Lol this thread is still active. I remember I was still studying for the first CFA exam when the thread first popped up.

OK now riddle me this. Exactly how are you doing your research on these penny stocks? Repeatedly blabbering about "it's going up" and copying and pasting a Form 8-K isn't research.

Seriously, throw it out there...how are you doing your selection and due diligence?

 

[Staten]

I thought it was a stock chat.. I'm embarrased to be on here.. and if its about girls why is your name trader.. wow this is wierd.