My online dating experiment with a hot chick profile

[englishman]

I had a few beers one night a while back and made a profile on plenty of fish.

Actually I made 2.

One was my own using my picture and some tips and tricks I read about, and the other was a made up one using a picture of a hot young babe.

The interest in the hot the HB was incredible and such an eye opener to me.I actually made her written profile quite rude and aloof.

There were guys instant messaging, sending cheesy roses, trying this angle and that angle, some grovelling and some trying ****y funny, some bragging about their money.

It was actually a bit sickening, how can we as guys have any power in that situation? and what must it really be like to be that HB... I can only think it must be fvcin fantastic to be honest.

My own profile got next to no interest really, particularly compared to HB profile, and I read the profiles of the women on there, and the thing that gets to me is their demands eg you must be this and that to even grace me with a message, and then if I sent a quick message it would often bounce back with the tag "HB does not accept messages this short, make your message longer" WTF happened to male female relationships? It seems like somehow the women got all the power, like the 60's free love concept in reverse.

It really opened my eyes to the reality of the lopsided nature of dating.

 

[pdx1138]

the thing that gets to me is their demands eg you must be this and that to even grace me with a message, and then if I sent a quick message it would often bounce back with the tag "HB does not accept messages this short, make your message longer"

I hear that!

The ones that are vocal about entitlement are a complete waste of time. I'm tempted to neg them HARD /put them in place.

Funny how quite a few will say that about how long the msg should be when a lot of them have profiles with barely anything else.

 

[scrouds]

Welcome to the internet.

There are three primary sexual markets. The primary market involves those that are considered hot or powerful. Generally choice lives here, whether male or female.

The secondary market involves ok chicks. 7s and surrounds. Generally some choice for women, and a bit of choice for suave men.

The tierary market involves the fat, ugly and lower beta / omega.

Online dating markets to the second and third markets. Give the fugly a shot and gives the secondary women a primary audience. Seconady men grovel their way into mediocre pusssy and tierary men find a fug or go home empty.

 

[zekko]

There were guys instant messaging, sending cheesy roses, trying this angle and that angle, some grovelling and some trying ****y funny, some bragging about their money.

So did you find yourself most attracted to the ****y and funny guys? I mean that's what PUA theory says, right? Lol.

I don't know how many posts I've read here by guys who have made female profiles on online dating sites. The results are always the same. So no one else needs to bother to do this anymore. Newsflash: Attractive women get a lot of attention. That's the way it is, that's the way it is always going to be. Can anyone actually say you are surprised?

I've never tried any online dating sites. I hope I never have to, because it sounds like half the profiles on there are going to be by guys pretending to be women. There's something disturbing about that to me.

 

[zekko]

Just a bit of an exaggeration there eh Zekko?

Okay, maybe. How about 40%?

I do agree tho that it would be considerably more enlightening to put up pics of an average girl.

Someone did this, and they still got a lot of responses.
A lot of horny guys out there.

One thing they teach you in PUA school is not to be afraid to approach.
Doesn't sound like there is any shortage of guys out there approaching (although it admittedly has to be easier online). Hormones are a strong motivator.

 

[Colossus]

The way things have evolved socially today, women hold the majority share of the power when it comes to the approach and early-phase dating; provided they are attractive.

In other words, you have your presentation: Your looks, your style, your conversational skills and general personality, and once you've put that out there the choice is really up to them. With F-->M approaching the rules are similar, but this happens far less often, and most guys either cant recognize or follow-through on the more subtle female M.O.

With online the playing field is even more skewed. Since you have the buffer against rejection, WAY more guys are "approaching", the quality of these guys is lower, and the woman can be far more stringent with her written laundry-list of entrance criteria than she might be when faced with real, spontaneous, face-to-face game.

Online dating is kind of like panning for gold---mostly what you find is common ore and fool's gold, and the real stuff that does pan out tends to be just flakes. To really find a nugget takes a lot of time, persistence, or just plain luck.

I dont think it's all bad, however. I just dont think it should take the place of going out there and talking to women in person. It becomes a forgotten art. Online dating is a good supplement, and sometimes it's all you have due to location, circumstances, etc.

 

[Mr.Positive]

You can have decent success with online dating, providing you keep it simple, to the point, and get the phone number as soon as you can.

The benefits to women with online dating is that they can weed out the crazy men, be more selective with who they converse with.

Unfortunately, there does seem to be a high amount of women just seeking attention, not serious about meeting anyone, and I didn't realize so many profiles might be men. That thought, disturbs me as well.

Get the phone number with in the first few responses from a gal. If by the 3rd response, she won't chat with you on the phone. She's not serious.

It can actually be very easy. Go out and message 10 women you find attractive. Keep your frame of being selective too. Be honest, and very direct in your wording. "Man up" in your choice of words. I've found, that out of 10 messages I send, I get around 3-4 responses. Out of the 3-4, I get 2 phone numbers out of it. I call them usually the next day, or whenever I have time. Set up to meet at a coffee shop.

 

[Die Hard]

Fvck internet dating.

95% of my attempts on there result in me getting rejected faster than a rabbit gets fvkked. The funny thing is, most of my attempts in real life are succesfull!!

That huge discrepancy makes me laugh, really. Coz it shows just how fake and unnatural the online environment really is, how far it's actually removed from the real world! I mean, in real life I'm quite the ladies' man and get LOTS of interest from women, but online I get treated like I'm the hunchback of Notre Dame!

I guess my case is an extreme example, the contradiction being so ridiculously large. But still, I regard it as evidence that online dating and real life dating are seperate worlds and therefor, that one's experiences in online dating shouldn't be generalized to real life so easily.

What I'm getting at, is the following line from the OP:

It really opened my eyes to the reality of the lopsided nature of dating.

Your online experiences supposedly made you realize the lopsided nature of dating in general and the power women hold in the dating game in general. Once again, the contradiction between real life dating and online dating might be extreme in my individual case, but it still kinda proves that they are different worlds and you shouldn't be so quick to draw general conclusions based on how things work in the online environment. In my case, women hold all the cards in the online environment but I hold all the cards in the real life environment. Even though I'm just one individual and my case might be kinda exceptional, this still means something...

 

[englishman]

. Newsflash: Attractive women get a lot of attention.

Nothing suprising about that, but the amount of men grovelling ???? Made me wonder how much men are to blame for the amount of entitled princesses out there.

 

[englishman]

A lot of horny guys out there.

A lot of horny grovelling guys.

 

[englishman]

Good points Die Hard, I agree if you have balls in real time it trumps online sh1t any day of the week.

 

[zekko]

A lot of horny grovelling guys.

The whole "groveling males" phenomenom confuses me. I can understand it if it's some pretty young guys or guys who haven't had much experience.
But it shouldn't take too many real life interactions with women before you realize that this approach simply doesn't work. And beyond that, you are humiliating yourself in the process.

And yet, apparently there are a lot of older guys who are guilty of this. The only thing I can think of is that they haven't had much contact with women at all in their lives, or they would know better.

 

[SecondHalf]

englishman, if you haven't listed your income or it isn't maxed out, max it.
Make no mistake, that's a common filter that women use when they search.

It's no accident that when I was online dating I was pestered to death by very wealthy, successful women.

The down side of that, is they're mostly high maintenance.
The gold diggers are obvious.
The type of woman you might want will seldom add max earnings in her search filter because she'll worry the man is a player or other such negative thing.

My advice...
Make a great profile, use your best pictures, and let them come to you.

SH

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

You know, if you're gonna create fake profiles at least have some fun with it,..

Absurd Online Laundry List

Best SS thread ever.

 

[Kailex]

So did you find yourself most attracted to the ****y and funny guys? I mean that's what PUA theory says, right? Lol.

Bwaahahaha, I just lost it right there.

Thanks for the laugh, Zeek.

 

[Serg897]

I once did the same POF experiment. I was blown away by the amount of messages my fake profile received in 24 hours. Probably over 50. As a dude you have to have a dating profile months/years to receive that many.

I use okcupid, but Im sure the dynamic is the same. The truth of the matter is if you only use online dating as your source for women to date you are making a big mistake. The playing field in real life is much more favorable.