My last post on sosuave

[JdelaSilviera]

When I joined sosuave, i was expecting experienced guys to help me succeed even better with women. I´m young, finishing my masters degree, and never had any problems getting girls, still I want to be perfect in everything I do, and had hope to learn some great stuff here.

My conclusion is that this forum is full with women hating, bitter losers, that think they´re cool because they never commit to a woman. Admit it you are just so insecure that you are afraid to get dumped, it is that simple.

Also except for the advice of RescueM and a few others, most advice is pathetic, you look like robots saying "spin more plates", or 2 strikes rule (wich is absurd and will never get you anywhere because most people are not perfect and tend to screw much more than 2 times), if you see a guy having any type of problems you just assume she is not interested, and try to sound like some spiritual guru who knows what´s happening in other peoples lives "oh she is probably fvcking 10 guys beside you" this is just laughable. This just got so ridiculous I don´t even know why Im still writing this.

This forum should be about "CREATING ATTRACTION", instead of behaving like losers and quitters and run to another girl, start learning about how to create attraction. Her interested level might be low.... but hey that´s what pickup knowledge is for..for changing that. If this is just numbers game, why do you still hang around here?.

bye bye and honestly I hope you get the success with women you want.

 

[JustLurk]

You didn't exactly seem to post anything about creating attraction on this topic.

 

[Gamer]

...This forum should be about "CREATING ATTRACTION", instead of behaving like losers and quitters and run to another girl, start learning about how to create attraction. Her interested level might be low.... but hey that´s what pickup knowledge is for..for changing that. If this is just numbers game, why do you still hang around here?...

Pickup knowledge is not just for creating attraction. It's also about gauging someone's interest level and weighing up if someone's worth pursuing.

I can understand your frustration but I think sometimes creating attraction might not even be the ultimate goal.

 

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

bye

 

[zekko]

My conclusion is that this forum is full with women hating, bitter losers, that think they´re cool because they never commit to a woman. Admit it you are just so insecure that you are afraid to get dumped, it is that simple.

Not everyone on the forum is like that, of course. But you have a point. I've thought myself that the motivation behind a lot of the advice on Sosuave is just to avoid getting hurt. In some cases it has come off as kind of cowardly.

This forum should be about "CREATING ATTRACTION", instead of behaving like losers and quitters and run to another girl, start learning about how to create attraction. Her interested level might be low.... but hey that´s what pickup knowledge is for..for changing that. If this is just numbers game, why do you still hang around here?.

Actually it's been a part of most pickup material I've seen that you shouldn't waste time with women who aren't attracted to you. The idea is to move on to someone who is.

 

[Trader]

When I joined sosuave, i was expecting experienced guys to help me succeed even better with women. I´m young, finishing my masters degree, and never had any problems getting girls, still I want to be perfect in everything I do, and had hope to learn some great stuff here.

My conclusion is that this forum is full with women hating, bitter losers, that think they´re cool because they never commit to a woman. Admit it you are just so insecure that you are afraid to get dumped, it is that simple.

Also except for the advice of RescueM and a few others, most advice is pathetic, you look like robots saying "spin more plates", or 2 strikes rule (wich is absurd and will never get you anywhere because most people are not perfect and tend to screw much more than 2 times), if you see a guy having any type of problems you just assume she is not interested, and try to sound like some spiritual guru who knows what´s happening in other peoples lives "oh she is probably fvcking 10 guys beside you" this is just laughable. This just got so ridiculous I don´t even know why Im still writing this.

This forum should be about "CREATING ATTRACTION", instead of behaving like losers and quitters and run to another girl, start learning about how to create attraction. Her interested level might be low.... but hey that´s what pickup knowledge is for..for changing that. If this is just numbers game, why do you still hang around here?.

bye bye and honestly I hope you get the success with women you want.

Why do you feel the need to *announce* your departure?

 

[JustLurk]

Why do you feel the need to *announce* your departure?

To send a message I suppose, like self-immolation.

 

[Rescue Mission]

My conclusion is that this forum is full with women hating, bitter losers, that think they´re cool because they never commit to a woman. Admit it you are just so insecure that you are afraid to get dumped, it is that simple.

I hope you come back and answer me this 1 question:

what is the point of committing to a woman that you KNOW is not going to be with you one way or another 5 or 10 years later?

All it is is a blanket committment, or what I call "creating a relationship out of thin air", because it has been proven in MY life, and in everyone else's life, that these days, committed relationships always end - ALWAYS. There is no proof that they don't end, because I would need to see 50 years into the future and I cannot do that.

So, why commit and waste time on JUST one girl, when you know in the end you're going to "end up getting out of a 2/3/4/10 year relationship" (and when people say that they just got out of a relationship, they make it sound like they just got out of jail, which I find pretty funny.

 

[Strelok]

Nananana nananana eeh eeh eeh goodbye

 

[Poonani Maker]

Why do you feel the need to *announce* your departure?

And that he has his "masters." I know doctors who are out of WORK right now. He couldn't even get a job at manpower, or accountemps.

 

[lorekeeper]

good luck! Hope you find somewhere more acceptable. I do agree with you on some of your points, but i just choose to ignore the bad posts (hey, i've made some myself )

 

[hexx]

Oh man, this revealed the entire truth to the sosuave nation. We are enlightened by your prophetic words.


Oh wait, no, not really. Get out you worthless sh*t, you haven't contributed anything. Enjoy your mediocrity.

 

[omega05]

i can see where you're coming from though. this forum is filled with nonsense rules like "next her" and spin more plates.

 

[fatdog]

i can see where you're coming from though. this forum is filled with nonsense rules like "next her" and spin more plates.

Have you even read the DJ Bible? Those concepts are explained in detail there, and the reasoning behind using them in the situations that get these type of responses.

They're not "nonsense" rules, they're rules of thumb. They yield the best results for someone that is trying to be their own man and not some pvssy-whipped chump. If you can be that without those rules, then more power to you. But then again, if you could be your own man without the advice, then you wouldn't be asking for it in the first place.

Don't like it? Don't follow it. But you'll be back with more run-of-the-mill situations later that could have been avoided if you just listened in the first place.

 

[ArcBound]

Those silly rules are like guidelines or training wheels if you will. First I followed those rules rigorously and once I understood the point behind them I wasn't bound by it but could follow my instinct. For example two strike rule teaches you how to not waste time pursuing a girl who is not interested in you. And after a while of following that rule I found I was able to gauge it from experience and instinct. So now if I sense a woman pushing eject and she only flaked once I might still next her. Or if I sense I can still get the woman after she flaked 3 or more times I will go for it and it has worked on the past. The point of people screaming follow the 2 strike rule is because it is supposed to let you learn when is the best time to next or continue pursuing them. And by reading most of the threads started here they understand that the OP has not developed that sense or intuition/ trust their gut feeling.

Likewise spinning plates teaches you the default behavior you will go into when dating a woman is that of trying not to lose her. Once you've spun some plates you adopt the opposite behavior once you know you can still get other women and keep your women in check. Even ROLLO TOMASSI said that you don't even have to be spinning plates just knowing you can acquire plates will give you the right mentality. Also COLOSSUS said in a post if he ever got out of his relationship with his fiance/wife he knew 3 women he could fvck or enter a relationship with. COLOSSUS doesn't need to fvck them at all in fact unless something goes wrong with his relationship but knowing he can makes all the difference. But of course you never looked at their posts, you only like pointing out the bad posts that paint your picture that this is a women hatin' website.

 

[kingsam]

bye

bye from me too!

 

[J. Darko]

Those silly rules are like guidelines or training wheels if you will. First I followed those rules rigorously and once I understood the point behind them I wasn't bound by it but could follow my instinct. For example two strike rule teaches you how to not waste time pursuing a girl who is not interested in you. And after a while of following that rule I found I was able to gauge it from experience and instinct. So now if I sense a woman pushing eject and she only flaked once I might still next her. Or if I sense I can still get the woman after she flaked 3 or more times I will go for it and it has worked on the past. The point of people screaming follow the 2 strike rule is because it is supposed to let you learn when is the best time to next or continue pursuing them. And by reading most of the threads started here they understand that the OP has not developed that sense or intuition/ trust their gut feeling.

Likewise spinning plates teaches you the default behavior you will go into when dating a woman is that of trying not to lose her. Once you've spun some plates you adopt the opposite behavior once you know you can still get other women and keep your women in check. Even ROLLO TOMASSI said that you don't even have to be spinning plates just knowing you can acquire plates will give you the right mentality. Also COLOSSUS said in a post if he ever got out of his relationship with his fiance/wife he knew 3 women he could fvck or enter a relationship with. COLOSSUS doesn't need to fvck them at all in fact unless something goes wrong with his relationship but knowing he can makes all the difference. But of course you never looked at their posts, you only like pointing out the bad posts that paint your picture that this is a women hatin' website.

Thus Sosuave shouldn't teach the two strike rule, it should help to develop that gut feeling of when to quit. That won't happen though, because there is hardly anyone on this forum who has succes with girls. The blind leading the blind and the guy with just one eye is the king. For example, the guy that jerks himelf of in front of other women, or the guy that cheats on his girlfriend because she has a low interest level.

Visiting Sosuave and getting advice on women is like visiting the McDonals and getting advice on a healthy diet. You get a hamburger with mayonaise, because it's low carb...

Wish that the handful of guys that only post once a month or so would post more, i guess they can be a great mentor, but the problem is, a guy that is succesful in life probably won't be here in the first place.

 

[HeyPachuco!]

So Suave was NEVER really about attracting (specific material or lines) women per se, it was always more about keeping and maintaining that women, relationship-advice and Don Juanism (self-improvement) which if you ask me, is MORE important than just picking up. There are loads of Pick Up Forums on the World Wide Web that caters for everyones personal gains. If you're not satisfied with the "Pick Up" or material-wise side of things here, try AttractionForums. They have everything nailed down to a t, or if you're into inner-game and state/confidence, go to RSD. So Suave is by far the best forum for advice about relationships and LTR's gone bad, on other PUA sites all you'll find is teeny boppers running around as Mods, making unchartered field reports.

You're just announcing you're departure because you're currently frustrated and need to vent. Well if you have to run along, make sure the door doesn't hit you as you close it. X

 

[ArcBound]

Thus Sosuave shouldn't teach the two strike rule, it should help to develop that gut feeling of when to quit. That won't happen though, because there is hardly anyone on this forum who has succes with girls. The blind leading the blind and the guy with just one eye is the king. For example, the guy that jerks himelf of in front of other women, or the guy that cheats on his girlfriend because she has a low interest level.

Visiting Sosuave and getting advice on women is like visiting the McDonals and getting advice on a healthy diet. You get a hamburger with mayonaise, because it's low carb...

Wish that the handful of guys that only post once a month or so would post more, i guess they can be a great mentor, but the problem is, a guy that is succesful in life probably won't be here in the first place.

Isn't that what I said? By people telling me to do the two-strike rule and me practicing it I eventually developed that gut feeling of when to quit. The problem is there is no real way to teach that online, so the only thing you can tell new posters is to get more experience! But people will still post asking for help on these internet forums so the next best thing is to tell them to implement this rule or that rule which will only serve as a guide to teach me or some other person how to develop it. See you can tell people to just go outside and talk to many women as long as possible and they might get their heads chopped off every single time and come back here saying they're on a two year dry spell. Or you can give them something to work with SLOWLY like say the two strike rule or spinning plates and when they fail they'll at least be able to put it into perspective and improve themselves. Most people are unsuccessful here not cause of the advice given by the people, but the fact that most don't really digest the info and go out and use it. Case in point you can go to the Don Juan Discussion Forum and see posters starting new threads about the same girl multiple times ignoring information given to them on a previous thread. It's hardly an advice givers fault when he tells you something you don't want to hear but is absolutely relevant to your situation.

 

[zekko]

Those silly rules are like guidelines or training wheels if you will. First I followed those rules rigorously and once I understood the point behind them I wasn't bound by it but could follow my instinct.

Yes. Even Pook stated in his Lesson Nine:
"Be not contained by formula."

And:
But, oh oh. Something was not going right. He had burned the mantra in his mind, “Thou shall never stay on the phone longer than twenty minutes,” only to break it… with a startling success! Also ingrained was the mantra, “Thou shall never compromise,” and lo and behold! When he broke this rule, he usually crashed and burned. But this time he achieved high flying success. Soon, the rules that had so framed his courtly actions disintegrated.

“Ahh,” he realized. “These guides and rules were a clutch for my lack of confidence. They do, however, work but are overall limited.” Then he smiled. “The rules and guides are the training wheels, the helper out of the nest.”