My issue with manosphere and the red pill movement.

[backbreaker]

HE'S AMBITIOUS PLAYER


god guys. it's clear as day

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

I am not even going to bother debating that, all I can do is say I am not. Now go cry about your 20s where you did drugs and brag to the world about how you have such an awesome wife that you spend your entire life on so suave. It is **** like this that creates psychos. I could imagine a guy lost in life coming to this forum and asking for advice from other guys just as lost in life but making up stories about their success only to be misguided. Young men are not getting guidance from people who supposedly carry around the tag in life of having made it.

 

[Trump]

It isn't a myth anymore, PUA has died down and lost a lot of its credibility that it used to have before. When one thing perishes, another is there to fill up that niche. The end goal of PUA, Manosphere, and the Red Pill movement seems to be to create personal growth in men who didn't have a chance to truly get in touch with their masculinity. It is to turn the former "AFC" or nerd into a guy that gets laid. While the intentions are good, I do think both the Manosphere and Red Pill actually do more harm than good in the long run. Lets talk about some of the reasons.

The writers themselves have had little success: I read Matt Forney's blog and you will not be able to convince me that someone like Danny504 (bald guy with glasses and beer gut) gets laid. The more I see these Manosphere or "red pill" writers get exposed or outed all I have to see is a pic of them. Looks aren't everything but they do matter a lot, young women in America simply have far too many options themselves to actually go for someone that doesn't have somewhat decent looks. The writer for Danger & Play and Good Looking Loser are probably the two guys I can look at and see that they get laid. The problem is that Good Looking Loser's mentality is barely Red Pill at all, he focuses more on improving outward appearance and just going all caveman when it comes to getting laid.

There is too much anger in the community which makes me think these guys are looking for attention and sympathy rather than focusing on self-improvement: I have been there and done that. When I was improving myself it was a fun process, I didn't take time to be angry. I have been angry and bitter when I was regressing and had nothing going for me in life. What I have found is that majority of the guys in such communities are just focused on gaining sympathy and attention rather than actually improving their lives. What's worse is by reading some of their blogs and writings you become an angry and bitter person that complains about how terrible women are rather than focusing on yourself and improving your life. I find that you are better off being a Blue Pill AFC rather than being an angry Red Pill reader that doesn't get laid.

It's more politics and less self-improvement: I don't keep up with politics TBH because it is a waste of time. I don't debate politics or any of that because I don't encounter feminazis on a daily basis that want to stop me from getting laid. It seems like to me that these guys have already made up their enemies in their heads and want others to join in on their fictional war. It's really all politics and not about going out there and getting laid.

Most of the writers center their lives and everything they do around women: Traveling for women, writing because they are frustrated by women, centering their existence on their success with women, and doing what they do because of women. I am convinced that most of the material these guys put out is pure erotica rather than actual conquests they made.

I just think this whole thing does more harm than good.

It doesn't do more harm than good, it depends how you take and digest the advice given. Some people are slow learners and some people are fast.

Self improvement is ok, but the problem is its not what society values. They care way more than you are beta with a girl on your arm than alpha and no girl. No cares about background, effort, time, frustration, and work put in, they just want to see the result. Guys have to be beta inside the home, but the trade off to have a wife and show the public you know how to attract a girl is worth it.

And thats why guys center their success around women. A guy who has an average house, average job, normal life, but is married with kids means more than a guy who is rich, educated, good dresser, but doesn't know how to attract women. It's all about image and value. Why do you think companies tell divorced celebrity couples to stay together for big $$$$. It's all about the image it portrays to the public. You value is worth more being married, being a couple, having sex with your wife.

Self improvement is one thing, but all society cares about is whether you can attract and have a girl in your arm, that's why people on here don't take improvement seriously and end up not caring, because in the end it's all about the wife by your side, not your education, background, or how nice you are.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

Who is ambitious player?

In any case his posts have Victimhood littered all over the place. Woman or supplicating male and/or troll with no mastery of his life.

indian guy on here (people think skinnyguy's alt) who backbreaker thinks is because I posted the thread about neglecting social life. to an extent I can understand why too since he hasn't posted in a while now but to say I am his alt when I am not even indian and have no issues with white girls is just asinine.