My Honesty Is Holding Me Back

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I would have fvcked at least a dozen more women by now if I wasn't so honest with them. I have trouble telling them what they want to hear - I take their feelings into account and end up telling them I'm not looking for anything serious. Why can't I just lie about it?

/end rant


I guess I'm not meant for this womanizing sh1t.
 

PapiChulo

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I can believe that. You cant lie to a chick? She is not your mother!
 

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u know how many women with boyfriends and married women the right could have sex with. all I get is married women and women with boyfriends. I dont want to get involved in a married women. I am the same way. I feel like it I was devious person who pushed themselves and women or said just anything I could to have sex I would have had a lot more women.
 

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I've had the one's who are married or with boyfriends playing the flirting etc. games with me. I don't waste my time. No time for the nonsense. They can figure it out.

Alot will ask me and not believe I don't have a girlfriend. I tell them because I enjoy being single and don't have time for that. It makes them want you more. But let them do the chasing. Fvck it. Would you want to be the one with those kind of women if you aren't just looking for some bumpity bump?
 
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Let me elaborate: on most occasions, all I would have to do to seal the deal is feign interest and tell a girl how much I care about her. Basically, lead her to believe that we have a future; in reality, we do not have a future. My problem is that I don't like to hurt people's feelings. This is not a bad character trait to have, but there is a conflict of interests: I'm also a 25 year old man who wants to spread his seed...
 

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No, you are doing the right thing here. Leading a girl on when you want nothing serious is a stupid thing to do, it always backfires and just isn't worth the hurt (on both sides usually).

If you are meeting enough women, being honest is absolutely the best way. Plenty of girls are interested in non committed relationships, and being with 3/4 girls like that is far better and much easier for everyone.
 

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At what point do you lay this honesty on them? Because for me, it never comes up until after sex. I can't recall a FB or girlfriend asking until after we have been having sex for a while and the sex was good. Then I get the "where is this going", and "what do you want out of this" questions.
 

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girls tell me I seem like a guy who always has a girlfriend. well I get the satisfaction of others thinking I have too many women but personally but I do not.
 

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I know what you mean OP. While I will use a white lie every so often, I don't blatantly lie to someone. The x-factor, however, is in your delivery. If you come off as very confident and that you can back up your words, then telling the truth is great...and will work! But, if you sound nervous or insecure about it, then it won't work.
 
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Warrior74 said:
At what point do you lay this honesty on them? Because for me, it never comes up until after sex. I can't recall a FB or girlfriend asking until after we have been having sex for a while and the sex was good. Then I get the "where is this going", and "what do you want out of this" questions.

It comes up at different times, mostly depending on the girl's age and moral values. Lately, though, I've been through a stretch of women who are qualifying me for an LTR very early on. This is probably because they were in their mid-twenties, but still.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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Just avoid it unless they're literally giving you the 5th degree before you've even hooked up. Then you can give them crap for moving too fast. "A little desperate are we? We've barely even kissed and you sound like you're all ready to get married."
If you're having the "where is this going" talk before you've slept with the woman, then she's probably hit her "number" that she does not want much to surpass before getting shacked up with some dude. If you don't want to bust their balls about it, just tell them it's a bit early on to discuss such things.

If women ask me about that I just tell them that I'm not actively seeking a serious relationship, but if the right woman comes along then who knows? The right women has not come along, but at least it gives them some hope and then maybe they'll have something to prove.
 

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You have to lie to them. You have to enojoy it too. They lie to us every day when they put on make-up, when they wear hills. Ever been with a chick who has the most perfect ass in jeans but when she takes them off its just fat that drops to the floor? Then your like dam, oh well Ill fck her anyways.

Every guy who turned into a player had that nice guy in him. But they got tired of being screwed over by women so one day they took that nice guy grabbed him chocked him out and cut him up then let the evil take over. Enjoy being bad
 

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Tesl said:
No, you are doing the right thing here. Leading a girl on when you want nothing serious is a stupid thing to do, it always backfires and just isn't worth the hurt (on both sides usually).

If you are meeting enough women, being honest is absolutely the best way. Plenty of girls are interested in non committed relationships, and being with 3/4 girls like that is far better and much easier for everyone.
This guy is right.

If you want to give up your morals for a quick 30 seconds of pleasure I would urge you to re-evaluate your life.

Your morals, your word, and your honesty is all you have as a man. You can be a lying "player" or you can be an honest man. You might not get laid as much, but a real man wouldn't care about another notch under his belt or another meaningless sexual encounter.
 

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I'm about the bluntest, most honest guy you will find when it comes to women, and while it turns some off, I sleep at night, and the ones who stick around, know what the deal is.

Stop trying to get a woman to like you and get her to respect you.

the difference between a player, and spinning plates, is lying or being honest. women used to call my dad a player.. my dad doesn't play women. my dad tells a woman up front, look, i'm married, and i'm probably ****ing 2-3 other women too. if you want to jump on board we are leaving the station, either get down or lay down. just like that. and the ones that stayed around made his life easier. they didnt' call the house, they had no problem springing for hotel rooms, they didn't' bother him about seeing other women, they just enjoyed their time with him. alot of women are like this. heck, his current wife, my step mom, started out like that lol. and she just worked her way up the pole. you aren't playing a woman, if you are being honest with her. and some, alot of some, don't like it, but you would be supervised the ones that stick around. and the ones that do, resepct you, and look at you differently / you are sexier to them becuase you aren't afraid to lose them, you have demonstrated to them that you aren't all talk and you have some substance.


plus, women are so scandalous you would be surprised how many of them really at the end of the day, don't' give a damn. I've ****ed women, just becuase i was ****ing someone else they thought was hot and they wanted to prove to themselves they "had it".

you should not feel bad, or be shamed, for playing the field. you aren't dating anyone, you aren't married. what are you supposed to just sit home and play xbox until miss right comes along? I think not.

Lately, though, I've been through a stretch of women who are qualifying me for an LTR very early on.
you got to get it in your head, that you are the ****ing man, and you run this ****. you aren't aduditioning for ****, these women are ****ing for your time.

think of it like sales. customer calls me on the phone, like he's called 10 ohter web design firms, he plans to ask his list of questions and get answers and 'call me back next week' with a decision. **** that. no, i have some questions i want to ask YOU. you see the work we do here, it's top notch, how available are you going to be during this project, becuase we don't work with clients who can't be contacted at least once every 2 days. you know, you get what you pay for, and while we aren't going to charge you 5 figures or antyhing, please understand that if you are looking for dirt cheap labor, you might need to go overseas. have you done any research on what programming language you want this done and and why (usually, what i would do there, and most jobs can be done in multiple languages), i'd state that it needed to be done in another language and give some tech jargon on why as to show that i'm smarter than him.

then at the end of the converstaion i tell him well we are looking at some other jobs too (and we usually were), but i do like this one a lot and you seem like someone that is serious about what they are trying to do and we only work with serious people, i'll let you know if we can work with you by tomorrow.

works every ****ing time. lol, more than once i'd have clients email me "have yo made a decision yet? really would like to work with you"

it's a mental state of mind man. i don't give a **** if you are smoking hot,you are a lawyer, if you can speak 5 languages, or can suck a **** through a tire gauge, you are auditioning for my attention.

the fact that you are seeing other women, should be second in her mind to "i hope i'm good enough for him". doesn't mean be an *******, not at all, but you run this **** man.
 

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honesty isnt your problem-- its being conveniently consistent and lacking confidence thats your problem. you need to practice being bold and unapologetic for who you are and what you want. volunteering too much personal information too quickly, saying youre "sorry", and even considering the fact that you were "wrong" should be a complete afterthought.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTjESswuhO8
 

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backbreaker said:
I'm about the bluntest, most honest guy you will find when it comes to women, and while it turns some off, I sleep at night, and the ones who stick around, know what the deal is.

Stop trying to get a woman to like you and get her to respect you.

the difference between a player, and spinning plates, is lying or being honest. women used to call my dad a player.. my dad doesn't play women. my dad tells a woman up front, look, i'm married, and i'm probably ****ing 2-3 other women too. if you want to jump on board we are leaving the station, either get down or lay down. just like that. and the ones that stayed around made his life easier. they didnt' call the house, they had no problem springing for hotel rooms, they didn't' bother him about seeing other women, they just enjoyed their time with him. alot of women are like this. heck, his current wife, my step mom, started out like that lol. and she just worked her way up the pole. you aren't playing a woman, if you are being honest with her. and some, alot of some, don't like it, but you would be supervised the ones that stick around. and the ones that do, resepct you, and look at you differently / you are sexier to them becuase you aren't afraid to lose them, you have demonstrated to them that you aren't all talk and you have some substance.


plus, women are so scandalous you would be surprised how many of them really at the end of the day, don't' give a damn. I've ****ed women, just becuase i was ****ing someone else they thought was hot and they wanted to prove to themselves they "had it".

you should not feel bad, or be shamed, for playing the field. you aren't dating anyone, you aren't married. what are you supposed to just sit home and play xbox until miss right comes along? I think not.


you got to get it in your head, that you are the ****ing man, and you run this ****. you aren't aduditioning for ****, these women are ****ing for your time.

think of it like sales. customer calls me on the phone, like he's called 10 ohter web design firms, he plans to ask his list of questions and get answers and 'call me back next week' with a decision. **** that. no, i have some questions i want to ask YOU. you see the work we do here, it's top notch, how available are you going to be during this project, becuase we don't work with clients who can't be contacted at least once every 2 days. you know, you get what you pay for, and while we aren't going to charge you 5 figures or antyhing, please understand that if you are looking for dirt cheap labor, you might need to go overseas. have you done any research on what programming language you want this done and and why (usually, what i would do there, and most jobs can be done in multiple languages), i'd state that it needed to be done in another language and give some tech jargon on why as to show that i'm smarter than him.

then at the end of the converstaion i tell him well we are looking at some other jobs too (and we usually were), but i do like this one a lot and you seem like someone that is serious about what they are trying to do and we only work with serious people, i'll let you know if we can work with you by tomorrow.

works every ****ing time. lol, more than once i'd have clients email me "have yo made a decision yet? really would like to work with you"

it's a mental state of mind man. i don't give a **** if you are smoking hot,you are a lawyer, if you can speak 5 languages, or can suck a **** through a tire gauge, you are auditioning for my attention.

the fact that you are seeing other women, should be second in her mind to "i hope i'm good enough for him". doesn't mean be an *******, not at all, but you run this **** man.
Dude. i can't rep you anymore. You nailed it. I'm learning about dealing with my clients like this right now. Good stuff.
 
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