My gym trainer must be banging all the girls at my gym...

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Desdinova said:
So is Luke, so stereotypes are out of the question.
I ain't a tall black guy, I'm a 5'11 (borderline tall), mixed-race guy (not black) with a tanned complexion (not black) and glasses with skinny arms.
 

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So you're a tall imitation black guy. Whatever the fvck you are, you're not the ugly bastard you think you are.

and glasses with skinny arms.
I'm getting the impression that you think this stuff is heavily working against you. Lemme tell you something... I wear goggles too. In my sarging heyday (I'm in a LTR right now), I wasn't fit, In fact, I was 20 lbs heavier than I am now and had a noticeable gut. NONE of that worked against me. Women have preferences, but it won't stop them from liking you anyway. They may make suggestions to make your appearance nicer (different clothes, long/short hair, facial hair, etc) but it won't deter them from wanting to fvck you. As long as you dress decent, groom yourself, and don't smell bad, you won't repel women with your appearance. It's your positive attitude speaking through your body language that will draw them toward you. That's what the naturals have. That's what you need to work on.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
The hb didn't even make eye contact with me, he introduced me to her, but she didn't seem to care.

Make eye contact if she doesn't make eye contact with me. I haven't been getting any looks from women during the Jedi bootcamp, and I'm certainly not even getting them next to the personal trainer, it's like I'm totally invisible.
If he introduces you to a woman, or any person for that matter, speak up, sound firm and confident, and yes make eye contact with whoever you are being introduced to. If she doesnt look at you, comment to your PT "Why doesnt she look at me, is she intimidated" I guarantee if you say that kinda quiet but make sure she hears she will look you in the eyes and most likely reply to what you said to the PT. Don't become "that weird guy with the PT", you can get him to introduce you, but don't go too far, you are there to workout, now if one comes to you then fine, but dont start using this PT as a means to talking to women, or you will be in trouble, when its time for you to sarge alone. Don't go looking for chicks but if they come by greet them confidently and with a smile, if they don't smile back, then its their fault, maybe they in a bad mood or whatever, don't worry about it.

Be confident.
Work your ass off.
Be happy.
Have fun.

Once you are in the right mindset they will give you some of that attention.
 

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First off, what's with all the hate against this guy on the first page?

He's a nobody outside, he's only good because of X.

Isn't it kind of hypocritical, I mean he could be a DJ on this damn site for all you guys know, so why hate on this guys game?

Second, stop making excuses like social proof, etc, the guys got good game and looks to back it up, period. That's what everyone should be aiming for. Do you think if you suddenly became a PT all of a sudden women would go, "Oh my GOD HES A PHYSICAL TRAINER, ATTRACTION SWITCH ACTIVATED!!!!!!".

Finally Luke, work out, diet well (that's key from everyone I'm getting advice on), and push bro, you're gonna make it.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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Luke Skywalker said:
I ain't a tall black guy, I'm a 5'11 (borderline tall), mixed-race guy (not black) with a tanned complexion (not black) and glasses with skinny arms.
Damn, Luke, you've got it better than the average guy, use your assets!:yes:

You are tall, you are not fat, you have the tanned complexion that many women just love... How much more do you need???:rolleyes:

Continue to workout an a regular basis, don't think about easy gain, don't be one of those pvssies who would "work out" very loosely a couple of weeks and then give up out of laziness. Be dedicated!:rockon:

Personally, I was never a shy person, I've always been a very social person. But I used to be thinner, not bony, but definitely not fit. And although I wasn't really self-conscious, when it comes to my body, I wasn't really confident either.
Since I started breakdancing in early 2004 and later on picked up Capoeira, I got more and more fit, I developed more muscle strength and also more "shape" if you see what I mean.
Sure many Americans would still call me skinny sh*t because in their mind only bodybuilders are fit:crazy: :rolleyes: But I just don't worry about my body anymore. I'm leaning to the swimmers bodytype, I just love it.

My confidence got even better. I mean come on, how can you not be confident when you have a great body? Now when I go to the pool for a swim, girls (not all of them of course, some might like the more muscular type, but many) would check me out. I mean, knowing that your body alone can attract girls, topped by a great personality, you just feel good about yourself. Your confidence simply shoots through the roof!:up:

So stop worrying too much and be dedicated in your workout, you will see great results over time. However, don't dream about easy shortcut, like "I will be in great shape in just four weeks if I do things right". Persistence and dedication are your friends!
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
Well, all I can tell you, is that I have all the motivation that I need to finish my training
Just so you know, bodybuilding training doesn't "end." Ever :) Its a lifetime commitment because if you stop, you'll go right back to where you were "by default."
 

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Luke, the reason why you are invisible to girls at the gym is because you are using your Klingon cloaking device. Oh sorry, wrong sci-fi fantasy.
 

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ElChoclo said:
Luke, the reason why you are invisible to girls at the gym is because you are using your Klingon cloaking device. Oh sorry, wrong sci-fi fantasy.
LMAO This is why I love this site. Reps for you man lmao.

And luke, I also noticed something else, you said should you keep your asexual shields up? Why do you even POSSESS asexual shields? What is that about? You aren't an asexual creature, so why act like you are one?
 
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qweretyuiopas said:
If he introduces you to a woman, or any person for that matter, speak up, sound firm and confident, and yes make eye contact with whoever you are being introduced to. If she doesnt look at you, comment to your PT "Why doesnt she look at me, is she intimidated" I guarantee if you say that kinda quiet but make sure she hears she will look you in the eyes and most likely reply to what you said to the PT.
Cool.

qweretyuiopas said:
Don't become "that weird guy with the PT", you can get him to introduce you, but don't go too far, you are there to workout, now if one comes to you then fine, but dont start using this PT as a means to talking to women, or you will be in trouble, when its time for you to sarge alone.
Well, technically, if I use this PT, like Espi said, then I'm 'breaking the ice' with allot of women, especially if he's like talking to every hb woman on the gym and they are giving him attention.

Right now, the contrast is, if I'm solo sarging, it's like a huge deal just to go up to someone and talk to them, they either have ipods on, or have some b1tch aura about them, or I'm ignored, so, the reality is that it cant get worst than it is solo sarging on the gym.

I think Espi's strategy is ingenius and so is yours, making comments to the PT in a discreet or quiet voice, but enough for the HB to hear is cool. So far I've learned two lines to say to PT.
 

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Here are a few reality checks:

1) Many of the big trainers that go to the gym are juiced. I know of a trainer who worked in a certain gym and he did tell me that many trainers offered him some synthetic sh1t, juice or pills to make himself bigger. Those guys are destroying their health to look big, don't follow them.

2) The reason the personal trainer is acting like a pimp its because he is a pimp. Don't look at the fact that the guy is a personal trainer and that is the reason women hit on him and he hits on them back. Look at the guy himself, his overall personality. Usually any guy that is dedicated to working his body hardcore will have an easier time with women. Not to mention guys with high testosterone are usually found in the gym and not in a dounut shop.

I know of a few trainers who barley talk to anyone and only get a few HB's or none saying hi to them. So cheer up and work on your game and body.

3) The reason many HB's let trainers feel them up and down its because they get comfortable with the trainer and think it helps them better with their routine. In actuality any guy will make an excuse to rub onto a hot woman and tell her this is the way to do a proper dumbell curl or some sh1t like that and the funny thing they believe them. You won't see many trainers rub and touch a 200lbs + or much older women.

4) Not all the trainers sleep with their clients. Some trainers are hitched and some choose not to mix business with pleasure. Regardless its the perks of the job if you are single guy and working out with a hot chick, why not take a chance and hit on her??
 

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LMAO its prolly Player_Supreme.


The first question that pops into my mind is "why do you possess asexual shields?"

What purpose are they serving you? Why are you afraid to be a man? Why are you afraid to communicate sexual desire?
 
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pooparu said:
LMAO This is why I love this site. Reps for you man lmao.

And luke, I also noticed something else, you said should you keep your asexual shields up? Why do you even POSSESS asexual shields? What is that about? You aren't an asexual creature, so why act like you are one?
Asexual shields is just another way of being oblivious to women and sexuality and as a result of being c0ckblocked constantly in my environment through my parents, my spiritual background which I take seriously, and a society where you could end up in jail for sexually harassing someone or touching people. All of these factors contribute to promoting an asexual type of defense since sexuality is associated with trouble. That's that in a nutshell.

It is also believed that women in general despise my sexuality and would think I'm creeping them out or that I'm a pervert for my natural sex drive, and have double-standards. If I was attractive to them, then my sexuality would be accepted, so they accept other people's sexuality, not my own, leading to a latent misogynistic bitterness.

Now, applying asexual shields here on a gym would mean simply that I would give up on approaching women, be oblivious to them and throw in the towel, since every expression of sexuality is being rejected by women and I'm perceived as a potential sexual threat, and with the other circumstances that are mentioned, you have the asexual shield concept.

So, again, it's like I'm in this 'sexual prison' and like every woman is waiting to pounce on me if I express sexual desire or whatever, when this is contrasted to the PT's ease with the woman, then you have a noxious psychological soup.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Did someone say something about hitting chicks on a gym? Who? WHO!

;)
 

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manuva said:
The first question that pops into my mind is "why do you possess asexual shields?"

What purpose are they serving you? Why are you afraid to be a man? Why are you afraid to communicate sexual desire?
Maybe he is afraid of rejection still.

Don't worry Luke, get that body straight, not only will ya live longer, but being healthier will make you more energetic and you will feel alot better.

I will give you a tip I used for myself when I was out of shape and when I started working out.

Take pictures of your body now, I know it may feel weird and if you arent happy with your body you may feel embarassed, its natural. Anyway take pics of your body, shorts but no shirt. Then as you work out more and get your body straight take more pics. Start right now, take a pic or 2 of your body now, wait a month and take another pic, take another pic the 3rd month and so on. Take a picture every month to track your progress, then when you are close to the point where you are happy with your body they will be a good motivator. It will help in all aspects of life, work, women, whatever. Anytime you feel you can't do something, like approaching a woman, getting a date whatever, just look at those pics and say to yourself "Look what I can do when i set my mind to it. I used to be a wimp and now look at what I have overcome, why the hell am I intimidated of this woman"

Better your body.
Better your self.
Let no one stand in your way.
If you feel anyone is stopping you from bettering your life get them out of it, even if its a cute chick.

Good Luck.
Don't give up.
Work hard.
Everything WILL work out if you keep it up.
 
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SUMMARY:

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Got it - let them be repulsed, who gives a crap. In conclusion to what has been discussed:

Here's what I'm going to implement based on the advice given so far:

- Next time I meet with PT for a session, I'll use him to introduce me, and say one of two pre-programmed lines depending on whether or not the hb is looking at me.

- Take pictures of myself at regular intervals to mark improvements of my physique in my exercise program.

- Not to worry about thoughts of target, or see it as a bad thing if it appears I'm giving someone the creeps or they are being repulsed by any approach attempt.

- Notice the body-language and confidence of PT in interaction with women (although it cant be mimiced currently).

- Above all - motivation for going to gym should just be to achieve fitness goals, of having a good body that would be more attractive to women.

Here are some additional comments not mentioned before:

- I've had another white PT before, but he wasn't swamped with as much attention as this PT, if any at all.

- I'm not planning to use this PT until another four weeks to allow myself to get used to new exercise program, which means if I'm relying on him to meet girls in the gym, I'll have to likely wait four weeks or more from today's date, which wont account for solo sarging.

Other ideas mentioned:

- I'm invisible or the PT's Omega b1tch, when perceived as the PT's client.
(but, I dont think that's going to help me if I think that way).

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Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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