My GREAT Philosphy

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Did your balls shrink when you used steroids?... I have heard horror stories like that before, that you can become sterile... is it true?
 

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this is not a steroid thread, it's a self improvement thread, i suggest going to steroid message boards to learn about effects of steroids.
 

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I know its a digression but, gee, dont be so touchy about it. it was you who brought it up in the first place, as a self improvement tool, so whats the big deal about elaborating a little bit? Is your previous post like a yes or what?

Im just curious man and you are better than a steroid website...

Im looking for self imrovement and might consider steroids and talking to someone who has experience with it would be helpful...

but sure, i understand if you want to keep the forum "clean" sorry everyone.
 

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Originally posted by Feskaren
I know its a digression but, gee, dont be so touchy about it. it was you who brought it up in the first place, as a self improvement tool, so whats the big deal about elaborating a little bit? Is your previous post like a yes or what?

Im just curious man and you are better than a steroid website...

Im looking for self imrovement and might consider steroids and talking to someone who has experience with it would be helpful...

but sure, i understand if you want to keep the forum "clean" sorry everyone.
I didn't mean to come off touchy, i just think there are people are alot more qualified to go into details on the websites that i posted, check out the message boards there, the vets can help you out.

But to answer you questions, yes balls do shrink while you're on because your body receives exogenous testosterone and stops producing it's own in the testes, when you stop it starts producing again and goes back to size.
 

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i bet you were one of those cool kids back in school that always made those type of comments in class trying to make yourself look smarter
 

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Nah, actually, I was the smart kid, making dumbasses like you look dumber :rolleyes:
 

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Originally posted by John Galt 2
I've read this board a little bit and i might be off since i didn't read everything, but it seems like many of you have the wrong focus here. Majority seem to be TRYING to get girls and waiting their time working on developing the GETTING technique. Instead of trying techniques to get girls, focus on becoming the type of person that girls are attracted, rich, powerful and respected, pretty much the "alpha male" I don't know what many of you read outside of this board but try some books, it'll be much easier to get girls once your jacked, rich, and respected. You don't have to take it to the extreme but make those a study. Right now, I’ll give you the benefit of my philosophy, which is a combination of the greatest thinkers of our age.

Jim Rohn says "work harder on yourself then you do on your job." This can be paraphrased into "work harder on yourself then you do on getting girls”. Get into personal development, KEY THING: PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT, listen to cds, read books Jim Rohn, Brian Tracy, Anthony Robbins are a great start. While improving the your inside, work on the outside as well, start going to the gym, make diet and training a study, two good books to start are “Body For Life”, and “Power Eating” to handle your diet, also get Arnolds encyclopedia of bodybuilding to get some ideas on lifting if you can't afford a trainer, and model those who are achieving the results you want.

Then learn to be rich and successful, make wealth and success a STUDY, read biographies or rich and successful people, learn about their habits, see how they think, so then you get some good role models to model yourself after, then read HOW TO BE RICH books, Rich Dad Poor Dad is a good start, Cash Flow Quadrant is another great one, then read every real estate book u can get your hands on to learn the quickest way of getting rich (One Minute Millionaire, Flipping Properties, Buy It Sell It Fix it Profit, How to make Money in Real estate...go to Amazon and look at the ratings and pick out books that have the highest ratings by most amount of people as your first reads. If you’ve found a book that you REALLY licked, search the internet for “Reading List NAMEOFYOURBOOK” you’ll find people who read and like your book, listing other books that they found very interesting.

STUDY SALES, listen to sales tapes, read sales books, they'll help you with girls, they preach the same mentality and no matter if you guys know it or not you're all sales people, YOU"RE ALL SELLING YOUR D$CKS to the girls, “it's either you sell her you D$CK, or she sells you on the reason why she doesn't want to buy it”, so you might as well get some good sales tips from top sales people like Zig Zigler and Brian Tracy. Sales and getting girls is all the same, have a good product and play the numbers game (work the ratios) run that sh$t like a business. Say you get 20 numbers in a weekend, 15 will be real, 5 will turn into dates, 1 will turn into a lay. Well now you got your starting ratio, now work on improving it by improving your sales presentation, even if you don't improve it, u now know that to f$ck 10 girls you have to get 200#s. However, don't forget to WORK ON THE PRODUCT more then you WORK ON YOUR SALES PRESENTATION, when u got a good product u don't have to be as good at selling it, u can have the lousiest sales presentation and girls will still want to buy your d$ck because of all the other advantages you have to offer, remember your not selling your features, your selling your advantages.
And then....hopefully you'll get bored of chasing girls and getting your sense worth from Fing chicks, putting notches on your belt and bragging about it to your boys, so hopefully you will eventually be able to pursue some real worth while goals like developing financial independence, taking care of your family emotionally/financially, helping out worthwhile charities, organizations and your community in general, by that time you’ll have girls chasing you.

IMO, girls are a BY PRODUCT of being successful, the best girls will always be attracted to their equivalent in a male, u might trick her into Fing u one night by putting on a charade and acting like you’re the sh$t, but she'll eventually see past the BS and leave your unless u truly are her equivalent or better. So don’t act, BECOME….but until you become, keep ACTing AS IF….just don’t get stuck in the acting stage.


PS Once u got your diet and lifting right, and I mean REALLY RIGHT by making both a study, do yourself a favor, and do a cycle or two of steroids, but make that a study too, don’t just jump into without studying that for a few months at least. To start, read Legal Muscle by Rick Collins, and learn all you can from boards like www.anabolex.com, www.elitefitness.com and others. Like my friend said, why take a tricycle somewhere, when taking the right precautions you can safely fly the concord jet to your destination.

PPS It'll take you a long time to read all those books and listen to the tapes without brain enhancement so get your hands on some adderall or ritalin from your or your friends little brother and get to work on yourself. Like before, SURE you can get there reading all this info w/out it, but how long is that going to take? Do you want to live this life now or do you want to get there eventually? keep a journal of what you're learning and treat this whole process like a class that you HAVE to get an A in. Review regularly

PPPS GET SOME WRITEEN GOALS!!! PLAN YOUR LIFE

PPPPS If you want to argue with any of this, don't expect me to respond, I WILL answer specific questions, I WILL NOT argue anything with any of you, I’m not here for a debate. I CREATED my life, I wrote my own script and I’m living it, I started with nothing and now live in a resort in a place where people look forward to vacationing, I drive a car most people hope to have one day in their life, I bang girls that most of you dream of (although have had ones that some of you would touch with my d$ck), and I make in a month working for myself then any top 4 year college grad coming out of college can hope for to make in year working for someone else. Am I bragging, yea a little, I’m damn proud of myself, this is more of a journal entry for myself then it is for you guys, but I decided to share it with you hoping it’ll help at least one person, maybe this’ll be the start of my motivational speaker career, ha. In any case this is all the TRUTH. It's to show you that all this is POSSIBLE through READING, studying, and lots of hard SMART work. Work smarter (adderall, Ritalin, plus all the shortcuts you’ll learn from books instead of trial and error) not harder. Don’t reinvent the wheel, whatever u want to achieve someone’s already done it and wrote a book on it, search and ye shall find.

PPPPPS I’ll give my famous metaphor that’ll give me away to all my friends, you all come into this world without any direction, it’s like you walk into a restaurant and pick out what you want to eat by looking around at what is on other peoples plates, u talk to them about their food, “this looks good, why don’t I try this”, instead of doing that, do yourself a favor and learn what is available, read the Fing menu, and by menu I mean BOOKS! Don’t waist too much time on these message boards, if some one wrote something that good, they’re going to charge for it. Ex: David De Angelo and Double Your Dating…….great GREAT book, my style is almost identical to his, not sure if it’s coincidence, probably more likely because I read his essay back in the day before he turned it into a book.

Anyway, hopefully this helps someone out there.
your recommendations are great but when you throw out the "Try steroids" talk as if they solve problems or make things better you totally go off track, steroids are not a 'fix it' solution and they dont produce the end result of "bigger"
depending on the type of steroid most, simply allow for quicker healing so you have to work 15x as hard in the gym and eat 15x as much of the right stuff and 0 of the wrong stuff and sleep well too, to truly benefit from them. your philosophy is bunk.
 

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Becoming more valuable in womens eyes

Fellas, here’s some good info from the book Sperm Wars that you may find relevant.

“in looking for long term partner, women prefer men who have or have the potential for wealth, status, stability, and durability…in choosing a man to help raise her children a woman is only secondary impressed by her looks, where as choosing a short term partner for sex, looks are much more important”

“Features women find most attractive are healthy eyes, skin, hair, firm buttocks, waist 90% circumference of hips, shapely legs, BROAD SHOULDERS, quick with, intelligence.”


So you’re goals should be to get all those things.

To many people here are focusing on techniques for getting women, instead of improving themselves. That’s like focusing strictly on the symptoms of the problem, and not trying to get the root of it. It’s okay to deal with the symptoms, just don’t put all your attention on it.

Focus on getting wealthy, gaining status in your community (however small, “it’s better to be a big fish in a little pond, then a small fish in a big pond, because you can always increase the size of the pond”), stability can be easily displayed, and durability will come from your physical attributes which can easily be changed.

To achieve all those goals make it a detailed structured study. Read books and take notes like you did in school on wealth (ie Rich Dad Poor Dad) study sales (your selling your penis to women, might want to learn some sales skills ie zig ziggler), study negotiating (herb cohen), read books on diet (Don Lemmons is by far the best one in my opinion, do a search for it on the internet) to improve your looks, start working out, get some broad shoulders. Get you’re info mainly from BOOKS not magazines or television. In general make yourself more valuable to the market place.

All this learning and knowledge will make you more confident, instead of trying to convince yourself that you’re the prize, u will actually become the prize. Studying all this WILL make you more witty and intelligent instead of trying to come up with set lines to be witty and intelligent.

The whole point is to become the prize, not convince yourself that you are the prize. If you convince yourself that you are, when you’re not, you might trick a girl or two here and there and might improve your closing ratio but the rest of the population will consider you delusional and you still won’t get the 9’s or 10’s. Take Jim Rohns advice and be honest with yourself, if your fat and broke, affirm that your fat and broke, write it on the mirror so you don’t forget, then work hard to get that problem handled.
 

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Re: Re: My GREAT Philosphy

Originally posted by BLUEox117
your recommendations are great but when you throw out the "Try steroids" talk as if they solve problems or make things better you totally go off track, steroids are not a 'fix it' solution and they dont produce the end result of "bigger"
depending on the type of steroid most, simply allow for quicker healing so you have to work 15x as hard in the gym and eat 15x as much of the right stuff and 0 of the wrong stuff and sleep well too, to truly benefit from them. your philosophy is bunk.
I agree with you. Steroids are not a fix it solutions, they are a tool to ge there faster. But without proper prior preperation using them will cause you to crash and burn.

It'll be like getting into a fighter jet without having all the prior skills, training, and knowledge thats needed to fly it. Even if you get it off the ground, u're gonna crash. However, if you do get all the prior skills, habits, and knowledge u can sure as hell fly to your destination much faster whenever you feel like it, and for many go to places that might not be possible simply by walking there, if you really want to go that far.
 

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I changed my mind from before on the diet books, body for life is garbage and its bill phillips sales pitch book to sell his supplements, and power eating doesn't discuss food seperation which is what i've been doing lately and its KEY! check out http://www.donlemmon.com/
 

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Another things, for christ sake, before you go out and buy another shirt or an article of clothing BLEACH YOUR TEETH, it costs less then $100 bucks.

Call a dentist and find one who'll make molds for you cheap, mine charged $50 bucks.....then order 'nite white' on the internet or something similar...girls dig nice teeth. It's the fastest improvement you can make on your looks, u'll WANT to smile more to show it off.

Get prescription to flouride from the dentist, it'll help when your teeth become sensitive.
 

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Re: Becoming more valuable in womens eyes

Originally posted by John Galt 2

To many people here are focusing on techniques for getting women, instead of improving themselves. That’s like focusing strictly on the symptoms of the problem, and not trying to get the root of it.
This part is good advice though! Improve yourself to the point you KNOW you are the man, chicks will see the confidence and even call you arrogant, but once they get to know you, they will see you are not and love you for it!
 

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Re: Re: Re: YES

Originally posted by CLOONEY
Stop lying man!
let me rephrase that, i lost count a while back, in the 30's...obviously i can count that high but it seems kind of pointless
 

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After reading this site for several months this thread sparked me to register and start posting...

Galt is right on so many things here, however most people are too lazy to seriously commit to educating themselves and therefore never quite seem able to drastically improve their lives.

Over the last few years I've gone from complete loserdom to being on the path to unimaginable levels of success. I'd say the last three years have involved a massive time commitment to reading and educating myself on everything from physical fitness to money/economics to (of course) learning how to get with quality women.

However, it wasn't until recently that I've finally been able to make use of all the knowledge I've gained. What I finally had to do, which was very difficult at first, was:

STOP F****** DEVOTING MY PRECIOUS RESOURCES OF TIME AND MONEY TO BEING A FAKE SUCCESS!!!

This is hard to do young because it involves short term sacrifices, and seeing some complete losers get temporary successes (esp with women), but so important. Instead of racking up debt buying the clothes and the car and the things that trick b****es into thinking you're worth a lot of money, actually become worth a lot of money. Instead of convincing yourself that looks don't matter learn how to alter your looks. I'm not claiming to be even close to where I want to be in life yet, DJ or otherwise, but I'm on the path and it truly makes all the difference. The breakthrough for me really came when I decided to stop hanging out with all the loser friends I'd accumulated over the years.

I'm kind of amazed how many people are missing the overall theme of Galt's message here. Whether you agree with the methods, the truth in what he suggests is spot on.
 

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Originally posted by RedPill


STOP F****** DEVOTING MY PRECIOUS RESOURCES OF TIME AND MONEY TO BEING A FAKE SUCCESS!!!

The breakthrough for me really came when I decided to stop hanging out with all the loser friends I'd accumulated over the years.

"fake success" is a damn great way of putting it, right on point.

As far as friends are concerned, people you associate yourself with make so much difference. They say your reference group will be your biggest reason for success or failure. We pick up the habits and thought patterns of those around us. My friends weren't losers in any sense, especially when it came to getting girls however they weren't at all at the financial level were i wanted to be at. So i changed my reference group. No longer was success with girls my top priority.

My financial life completely changed when i picked up and moved and started associating myself with and getting mentored by millionaires and those achieving the financial outcomes i wanted in my life. Hence is the power of your reference group.

Its been said that your salary is the average between your five closest friends, relating that to girl i bet the number of of girls you sleep with is the average between your five closest friends.

So if nothing else making those little changes can make all the difference.

Get to be around those who are achieving the results you want and model their attitudes and behaviors.
 

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This guy was making a lot of sense..until the steroid paragraph.

But I will be truthful..I do not know much about steroids. Right now, I am still working as hard as I can to learn about lifting and eating.

However, this guy seems right on target. But I think he forgets that this site really is for DEVELOPING YOURSELF.

I came here, like probably everyone, to figure out how to get girls. But then, I learned that this site provides more than that...It teaches you to focus on improving yourself, becoming a MAN, and see how women naturally flock to you. This is precisely what Pook's beautiful article

"BE A MAN"

ellaborates on!

John is absolutely right in focusing on yourself rather than girls. And the books that he suggests seem like they would be very helpful in this respect.
 

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John Galt: i agree with the last thing you said about surrounding yourself with successful people. But how helpful are reading those books you talk about? What do you really learn from them? If anyone who reads those books can be rich, I think there'd be a lot more rich people walking around today. Also, I don't know if you talked about this before or not, but what business are you in that you say has given you the success?
 

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Originally posted by I_Only_Live_Once
John Galt: i agree with the last thing you said about surrounding yourself with successful people. But how helpful are reading those books you talk about? What do you really learn from them? If anyone who reads those books can be rich, I think there'd be a lot more rich people walking around today. Also, I don't know if you talked about this before or not, but what business are you in that you say has given you the success?
how helpful are math books when trying to learn math? how helpful are nutrition books when trying to learn nutrition, doctors read doctor books, to become doctors, u wanna be rich and successful, study how to be rich books and study biographies or successful people.

There are a ton of rich people, just because ur not around them doens't mean that they're not there.

I'm obviously in the business that can make u the most ammount of money, the quickest. Real Estate. When u study money u'll realize that most millionaires either made their money in real estate, or hold it in real estate, so it only make sense to make that your proffession doesn't it?
 
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