My girlfriend would never cheat !

[NeoKortex]

I kind of realized that every guy in a relationship that i speak too is about a 100 per Cent sure that his girl or wife would
never cheat on him. These thoughts dont even cross their minds.

I personally would never say that about my girlfriend even though shes an decent
human being with good morals.

I mean how can u really know? Iam kind of jelous of their mindsets. I think their mindsets is more shifted towards Illusion than to reality. Or am i just one insecure being? Plz give me your take on that.

Thx

 

[spiegel549]

A lot of stupid men once they actually get the broad locked down they think they can throw all game out the window and stop doing what kept the girl in check from the start. The challenge begins once you are exclusive with a woman being able to KEEP the ball in your court at all times. If she gets comfortable because you start to slack I assure you she will cheat. Not saying every woman you ever meet in your life is going to cheat but you damn well better understand that if you don't keep her in check (respectfully) she will act up.

At any point, at anytime, no matter how long you have been together, a woman can cheat. Always remember that.

 

[AttackFormation]

The funny thing about this is that if they had the same "make belief" mindset about other things in life, they would probably succeed in those areas. If they were completely convinced of how good a salesman they are or whatever to the same degree that their gf is "high quality"... instead it's just to protect their ego and stupid thought processes.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Cheating is a two-way street. I've been on both sides. The common perceptions of the cheater being evil and the one cheated on being an innocent victim are ridiculous. Real life doesn't work that way. Conflicts have two sides. If you neglect and mistreat any woman enough, she will eventually cheat on you. And you will cheat when a woman treats you that way for long enough. It's just human nature.

 

[Yewki]

I mean how can u really know?

When you positively don't need a girl to be happy, and you realize that every girl is replaceable, you don't particularly care.

So why do you care so much?

 

[WanderingMan]

When you positively don't need a girl to be happy, and you realize that every girl is replaceable, you don't particularly care.

So why do you care so much?

I like this. Worrying about her cheating might be what drives her to cheat. Don't think to "keep" them happy, or keep them from cheating. A relationship should be natural. If it's not natural, or you are worrying, then you shouldn't be in a relationship.

 

[RangerMIke]

There are VERY few people I have met in my life where the significant other cheated that it was not predictable.

Met a woman a few years back, great gal, beautiful, funny smart, great job, everyone loved her. She was divorced, I found out that her ex cheated on her and she filed. For the life of me I could not figure out why the hell her ex cheated on her.... until I went out with her. What a pain in the @ss.

 

[zinc4]

If you don't care, this will never be a problem. It's all about power.... the one who cares the least has it.

 

[Serenity]

How I really think about this is to not believe anything until I have a reason to believe anything. I have no reason to believe my girlfriend cheats, she has not given me any. I have a reason to believe she doesn't cheat, she's giving me plenty of them.

People should stop dealing in absolutes about everything. Without any solid proof there can be no absolute conclusion. No guy can know with absolute certainty that their girlfriend doesn't cheat or ever will cheat. All we can do is to not give her any good reason to and pay attention to the signals. If you receive a lot of affection just because, then you're in the safe zone. If you previously did get affection and she suddenly stops, then there's reason for concern (but nothing more).

 

[Xeon21]

Cheating is a two-way street. I've been on both sides. The common perceptions of the cheater being evil and the one cheated on being an innocent victim are ridiculous. Real life doesn't work that way. Conflicts have two sides. If you neglect and mistreat any woman enough, she will eventually cheat on you. And you will cheat when a woman treats you that way for long enough. It's just human nature.

Very true. The decisions we make in life each day all have a direct consequence, be it a positive or a negative one. The same applies to relationships as well. If both of you consistently create negative consequences towards one another, or even if one of you does it, that person will become discontent and start looking elsewhere.

 

[Glumix]

Cheating is a two-way street. I've been on both sides. The common perceptions of the cheater being evil and the one cheated on being an innocent victim are ridiculous. Real life doesn't work that way. Conflicts have two sides. If you neglect and mistreat any woman enough, she will eventually cheat on you. And you will cheat when a woman treats you that way for long enough. It's just human nature.

Exactly. And the definition of mistreatments is different from one person to another.

I remember that the only time I was on the edge of cheating it was not because my GF didn't love me or mistreated me but because I didn't love her anymore and I had no more sexual desire for her.

But for a woman, it's the best excuse: "He could not create that sense of love and passion and stopped giving me the attention I needed so I cheated on him.".

Are they cowards or not? Do they create an unfulfillable need for constant passion and attention because they live in that unrealistic world of Lala-Land or because they want to end the relationship and have an excuse?

I don't know.

We should still discuss about that need of absolute faithfulness we think is a necessity in our couples. It's so ingrained in our society. That's the real danger here I think.

 

[Bingo-Player]

the amount of women ive slept with that have said they have boyfreinds was a real eye opener

once i threesomed this chick with a freind of mine it was one of the dirtiest nights ive ever had in my life

in the morning she asked us if we could drop her off to her boyfreinds house :l

 

[Reykhel]

Yah, but when you get to that point it's a wake up call - "Hey, I care way too much. Time to take a step back."

Sometimes, a good thing to do is pull the "we need a break" card. Plus then if she's worried about losing you, she'll try whatever it takes to get you back. Or she'll just go fvck other guys and forget about you, in which case it's a natural filter and it saves you the time, effort, and emotional involvement.

I don't agree with that logic.

I've heard so many women say something similar on the lines of "when I told him it was over, all
he said was OK, which proves that he didn't really care". And I'd say, nah it proves he's not a jackass.

I seem to have a habit of mentioning to women that once it's over it's over. If you tell me it's over,
there's no going back. It kind of prevents them "pulling the let's take a break card" in anger

A typical response would be "that proves you don't care". And my response is "Not necessarily. That proves that if you've reached the point where you want to end things, it means your interest level is quite low. I'm not worried about someone who has low interest telling me it's over or you want a break. You're doing me a favor.

So I don't think it's a natural filter. It can fool you into thinking that she had no interest. The bluff can then backfire. She walks because she thinks you must have no interest because you want a break, or she knows you're bluffing and goes for the 'ol double bluff.

....and you incorrectly think, "see, I smoked out her low interest level"

 

[NeoKortex]

The gut. It never lies. If I get a bad feeling about a woman, I'm going to keep my options open. If I feel like she's not giving 100%, then I can't take her seriously. The gut has the final say with every woman I date.

Saw this Post in another Thread and it got like
7+ likes.

How do i know its my gut and not my insecurities? I get this "gut feeling" she
might one day cheat on me.

 

[Desdinova]

How do i know its my gut and not my insecurities? I get this "gut feeling" she
might one day cheat on me.

Are you the best man you can be? Are you confident? Do you have other women interested in you? Can you live without women?

Does she have guy friends? Has she had multiple sexual partners in the past? Does she act like a wh0re?

A woman who will cheat on you will have a reason to do so. If you're the best man you can be and her behaviour isn't wh0rish, then you won't have any reason to believe she'll cheat on you.

 

[kenpiffyjr]

I don't agree with that logic.

I've heard so many women say something similar on the lines of "when I told him it was over, all
he said was OK, which proves that he didn't really care". And I'd say, nah it proves he's not a jackass.

I seem to have a habit of mentioning to women that once it's over it's over. If you tell me it's over,
there's no going back. It kind of prevents them "pulling the let's take a break card" in anger

A typical response would be "that proves you don't care". And my response is "Not necessarily. That proves that if you've reached the point where you want to end things, it means your interest level is quite low. I'm not worried about someone who has low interest telling me it's over or you want a break. You're doing me a favor.

So I don't think it's a natural filter. It can fool you into thinking that she had no interest. The bluff can then backfire. She walks because she thinks you must have no interest because you want a break, or she knows you're bluffing and goes for the 'ol double bluff.

....and you incorrectly think, "see, I smoked out her low interest level"

Can't agree with this Reykhel.

Rule #1: never listen to what broads say. A lot of times when she says these types of things, it's in anger/drama seeking and she's judging your reaction very closely. The smart move is to just agree and go out and do your own thing. The only reaction the guy should worry about is the action to the reaction kind of like KingofPuss was getting at. Telling a chick "when it's over, its over" to me is too serious. This ain't creating boundaries as far as orbiters etc. The "play games and say it's over then it's over" before any problems exists, seems to come from a AFC underbelly.

My motto is have fun with these chicks. A little girl tantrum drama never hurts things. If you fall back and she doesn't act accordingly...then get rid of her

 

[NeoKortex]

A woman who will cheat on you will have a reason to do so. If you're the best man you can be and her behaviour isn't wh0rish, then you won't have any reason to believe she'll cheat on you.

Wish i could believe that. I remember a Grill Barbecue. One of the guys had his wifey there. Really a down to Earth girl. At that Time we hang out alot together. She seemed like a genuine good Person. She was always supporting her hubby in any way. A Friend of Mine, myself and The local jerk were standing together talking bout females when the friend
mentioned: "One day i wish i will find a girl
like her and marry. X Is a Lucky man"
The jerk just stated "oh is he? This Is between us." In a moment of boosting his ego he put out his phone and showed us a video
of her getting a facial by him. Really i know a lot of shady person but i would have never
expected her to do it. From this moment i look at women different. And i used to think i got at least some level of Empathie when it comes to people.

edit: ah the hubby was decent looking and had a great career. Obviously i dont know their relationship in all deepness. Maybe he cheated on her before or something. Just from the outside he was a Person that did his homework

edit2: iam Not at The best Version that i can be. Made many Mistakes in The past and had a Hard upbringing. Yeah i could defenetaly be a way better Person by now. But i think iam still a guy with high value. But thx for mentioning it. Reminds to go hard in the gym today.

 

[Reykhel]

Can't agree with this Reykhel.

Rule #1: never listen to what broads say. A lot of times when she says these types of things, it's in anger/drama seeking and she's judging your reaction very closely. The smart move is to just agree and go out and do your own thing. The only reaction the guy should worry about is the action to the reaction kind of like KingofPuss was getting at. Telling a chick "when it's over, its over" to me is too serious. This ain't creating boundaries as far as orbiters etc. The "play games and say it's over then it's over" before any problems exists, seems to come from a AFC underbelly.

My motto is have fun with these chicks. A little girl tantrum drama never hurts things. If you fall back and she doesn't act accordingly...then get rid of her

I'm not sure I follow your point.

Anyway, we're talking about relationship/girlfriend strategy here......it's not really the
strategy that I'm personally concerned about these days.....

I can only speak of my own past experiences and the past reactions I have got from women in my life.
So while you're entitled to your opinion that it seems "too serious" and "seems to come from an afc underbelly", I can't really give much value to your opinion as it does not match with my personal experience.

I'd often drop this in after a few meets.....bear in mind that we would be talking about relationships at this stage......the likes the dislikes and such.........and I would talk about interest level and that I believe when it's over it's over...........to me this is dropping in boundaries.........

......reactions to this were quite positive, such as "I like a man with principles" and "it's rare to find a man that knows exactly what he wants"

I'll repeat........I'm reflecting back on when I was relationship/girlfriend strategy........

 

[kenpiffyjr]

Listen to what you said in your original post.

You say it to "prevent" her from "saying" something. That is an AFC undertone if there ever was one and how do you expect broads to react and make a statement after that? All men are going to get that Princess Diana reply early in the dating stage with chicks.

Judge actions, not words...whether it's a 3 week sex fling or a 3 year LTR.

Who cares what these broads say?!

 

[Reykhel]

@kenpiffyjr I think you're getting a little bit too hung up there and misinterpreting what I said..
either that or your determined to throw in the afc undertone....

I'll rephrase it for you. I said something like it seems to prevent them throwing in the "let's take a break card" or throwing in "it's over" in anger.....

I'm guessing you've taken that as if to say I've done that as a tactic.........and that's why you're throwing in the afc comment. I'm trying to understand you here in the sake of clear communication but I can't be bothered going back and forth all day with somebody who's interpreting what I'm saying incorrectly...

Since I have said this, as a result I have not have girl throw in "the let's go on a break" or "we're finished" in anger........so what I was reflection on was that it seems to have prevented that happening.......

...Now this could be just a complete coincidence.......

I'll repeat it for you......I've not had anybody say those words to me in a long time.....I'll admit it could be just a
coincidence, or it could be stating this upfront has somehow prevented this from happening....

I can't really take anyone seriously who uses such absolutes such as "all men are going to get that princess yada yada...

Obviously you're preaching to the choir there when you state the bleeding obvious.....it's about her actions not her words....

....but to imply she doesn't mean it when she says the words it's over is just laughable.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I can only hope to change my AFC ways and be a big bad cool Alpha like you one day.....