My friend is a Feminist.....

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me an my friend got into an arguement about feminisn.... he said that in order for you be successful in america that you have to embrace the feminist idea's... i just started laughing... but it got me thinking.... caz he back it up with... an example... He was able to name a whole bunch of successful feminist people.... MY QUESTION... CAN ANYONE TELL ME A SUCCESSFUL NONE FEMINIST PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE PRESENT... successful i mean rich felty rich...
 

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A feminist believes that the reason women make 76 cents to the male dollar is because the "patriarch" is biased towards women and will naturally pay them less for the same work.

A realist can see that it would not make economic sense to pay someone more simply because of their gender. Realists know that women are responsilbe for their low pay because of their lack of assertiveness, their worthless college degrees and their absence from the work force to have kids (blame nature).

While the suffrage movement may have had some merit, modern feminism is simply a way for women to wallow in their own victimization as a minority while advancing themselves at the expense of men.

Any man who calls himself a feminist is an idiot and probably has his balls in a jar somewhere. Deep down, women want a man who takes control - not someone who believes in that 50/50 bullsh1t.

And by the way, Trump is a great example of a guy who definetely is not a feminist who is filthy rich. He was smart enough to know that the beauty pageants needed wh0res in order to be succesful. Go Trump!

I bet you you're friend is rooting for Rosie O'Donnell. Next time you see him make sure to punch him in that fleshy patch of skin where his nuts used to be. Thanks.
 

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No public figures I could think of.

Feminism isn't one idea that you have to completly accept or completly reject. Embrace what it does to empower women, and reject what it does to unempower men and women. Thats my opinion on it, and most women agree with me.

Here in cali, most people I know who are not feminist are weirdos. However, im sure that antifeminism is the norm in the south.
 

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JPFromTally said:
And by the way, Trump is a great example of a guy who definetely is not a feminist who is filthy rich. He was smart enough to know that the beauty pageants needed wh0res in order to be succesful. Go Trump!

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I'm not sure whats trumps true views are, but on the apprentice he repeatly emphasizes the power of women and all that stuff. On season one, when the girls team were kicking the guys teams asses, he was like 'i'm not sure if i'll ever hire a man again.'

On season three, there was this one protigy, alex, who are a level above everyone else on that show. It was down the final four, and his team of two lost. His partner was named carolyn. It was entirely her fault that they lost. Alex kept telling her she's making a big mistake, but she was project manager and she insisted her on her way. In the boardroom, alex was dominating carolyn in the debate. Then, I forgot how this came up, but trump asked him what was his record as project manager, and he couldn't remember off the top of his head. From there he cut into all the mistakes he's made throughout the show (even though there were way less then any other member) and he got fired.

The reason why he did that? Cuz the first two apprentices were white males, and if another one was a white might, trumped would've been accused of sexism and racism.

If trump is non-feminist, he's certainly not expressing it.
 

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Im 20 how old are u guys... i just want to know what age group im talking to
 

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Donald Trump (just ask his trophy wife), Richard Branson, Bill Clinton, George W Bush, the Sultan of Brunei, Harrison Ford, George Clooney, Schwarznegger...

By the way, who is actually a successful feminist? Oprah is the only one I can think of.
 

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LAWYER said:
me an my friend got into an arguement about feminisn.... he said that in order for you be successful in america that you have to embrace the feminist idea's... i just started laughing... but it got me thinking.... caz he back it up with... an example... He was able to name a whole bunch of successful feminist people.... MY QUESTION... CAN ANYONE TELL ME A SUCCESSFUL NONE FEMINIST PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE PRESENT... successful i mean rich felty rich...
I can name a lot of successful people who are right handed, ergo you must be right handed in order to be successful in America. :rolleyes:
 

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Donald Trump (just ask his trophy wife), Richard Branson, Bill Clinton, George W Bush, the Sultan of Brunei, Harrison Ford, George Clooney, Schwarznegger...

By the way, who is actually a successful feminist? Oprah is the only one I can think of.
I don't know about Trump, his daughter is very successful in his organization plus one of his ex's owns the Plaza in New York. I don't Schwarzenegger's wife would allow him to be non-feminist either.
 

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Evel Knievel

I've never known a male feminist who was successful with women.

Meanwhile, the more alpha the male, the more chauvinist he is, and the more puzzy gets magnetically attracted to his kawk.

For example, listen to 68-yo Evel Knievel, yo!
Golf is his new passion and he attacks it with the same vigor that he used to reserve for racing up plywood ramps. It was on the golf course that he met his current girlfriend Krystal Kennedy, 29 (in 1998). Evel's long suffering wife Linda stood by him during the endless affairs and high jinx of his life. But now they live separate lives. "She was byching too much, and I can't live with that," Evel explained. "You know, I wasn't put on this earth to sit and listen to byching all the time. I was put here to have fun. "A woman is for loving and caring for. Who said they have to bych? I have got no time for all that."

Evel's stance on women has been tainted by years of having them fawn all over him. He estimates he has slept with 2,000 of them and says he has met only a few who could resist him. "I had about two a week," he said without a hint of exaggeration. "My record was eight in one 24-hour period. "It got to be a real problem. I had to see a psychiatrist. I asked him why it was that women kept throwing themselves at me and he explained it like this. He said, 'look, to start with you are not a bad looking guy. Secondly, your identity is danger, women, their chemistry, are attracted to danger. Then you are Evel by name, but not by nature, so you won't harm them. Women unhappy at home looking for an affair are just drawn to you like a magnet. You stick out lick a sore thumb.’ "I guess he was right. I am not bragging. It was true. I had to have security guards keep women from my hotel room."

Even today, he still holds the same attraction to women. In 1986 Evel's wicked ways made headlines again. After a night of drinking, Evel led an amorous woman back to his hotel room. "I had no idea she was the woman of the guy I had been drinking with," Evel said. Furious, Evel's drinking buddy persuaded the hotel's front desk to give him a key to the room where Evel was having his evil way with his lady. "He opened the door, punched me in the nose and broke it. I sued the hotel for giving him the key and they had to pay me $33,000." Such tales just add to the lore of Evel.

Now Evel has found happiness in the arms of 29-year-old Krystal, a former golfer for Florida state university. "Boy, she is a good golfer. She is a great girl." The age difference doesn't appear to bother either of them. "I don't see what the fuss is about," Evel says when asked about it. "I have had young women, I have had old women. So what?"

Even now, Evel has a flippant view of women, probably because he has found them so plentiful over the years. "You know, women are the root of all evil. And I know, I am Evel. "Look at Adam and eve. It wasn't Adam who picked up the apple, was it? Ghengis Khan, brought down by a woman. "That ain't going to happen to me. Maybe me and Krystal won't be together forever. You know, women seem to forget who it is who buys the diamonds.

"Women are like buses. Good to ride on for 15 minutes. But they forget that if you get off, there will be another one along in 15 minutes. And another one, and another one."
And btw, I've noticed that the more women a guy sleeps with, the more "misogynistic" he becomes...which then actually makes him even MORE attractive to women...

Talk to any mPUA or natural playa in PRIVATE away from mixed company...and you will UNDOUBTEDLY find this to be true.
 

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wayword said:
And btw, I've noticed that the more women a guy sleeps with, the more "misogynistic" he becomes...which then actually makes him even MORE attractive to women...

Talk to any mPUA or natural playa in PRIVATE away from mixed company...and you will UNDOUBTEDLY find this to be true.

Wow, you're right on about this. I'm not in Evel's leauge but I can relate.
 

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WOW Evel IS So old his about to die.... my friend told me that our type of thinking is old... and his rite most of the examples you gave me are old people old i mean 50 and above:kick:
 

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The reason you can say that all succesfull people are some type of femenists is because that's the kind of world we live in.....IT'S THE MATRIX, or part of it at least. The reason "queer eye for the strait guy" was succesfull is because there a lot of male chumps (metrosexual / emos) along with women. That's the way things are these days. Women work...they have money... they spend it easyer then men....it's why every buisness is geared toward women..... All the comercials depict men as some sort of idiots and women as the smartest creatures...who have money...and need to spend it.

First you have to clearly define in your mind what femenisam means and what it means to you. Then you have to figure out what you agree with and what you don't.....Then you have to figure out which one of those will impare your ability to make MONEY, after all that's what it's all about.....and then you have to figure out what you can live with, and what your willing to stand up for.
 

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Hi

wayword said:
I've never known a male feminist who was successful with women.

Yeah, I think most guys here would consider me a feminist and I have had a few LTRs with perfect 10s. In fact the most successful guys with women I know all care deeply about womens rights.

Caring about women and thinking they deserve equal rights in society does not equate to you are giving up your power.

In fact its pretty pathetic if you need to feel that women in general are inferior to feel a sense of power in your relations with them.

Now I'm gonna get philosophical.

There is two kinds of feminism I think.

There is the priviaged white middle class westerner feminism (which most of you dudes seem to think all feminism is). I agree that that stuff is bull****. Really they are just dienfranchising women and causing havoc in gender relations with their spoilt brat claims (such as that it is somehow offensive for men to express instincts developed over a billion years of evolution which make us wanna **** chicks).

Then there is the type of feminism I support.

And really that is just human rights. The belief that all humans have the right to a certain quality of life.

There are hundreds of millions women in the world who are subjected to slavery, rape, torture, abuse and multilation... **** most of us cannot imagine. These women have no rights and no ablility to escape these conditions.

A real man stands up against this kind of thing, while the first type of feminist would rather complain about some commercial on TV because it depicted a woman as a sexually liberated being, than try to help her 7 year old somali "sister" who has had her **** cut out, had a thorn stuck in her gash and then had her lips sown together until her wedding night.

Let me try a different tack here.

What would you do if you saw some guy beating his girlfriend on the street?

That's right, a real "alpha" would step in and help the woman, he would protect her god given rights.

Supporting womens rights is not about sacrificing your masculinity. In fact the essence of masculinity resides in caring for women.

Supporting the idea that all humans should have equal rights in broader society does not stop mean you are submissive to women.

An alpha is a leader of both men and women. He is an alpha because he is decisive, courageous, intelligent, strong in himself AND protective of those around him.

A real Alpha does not need women to be oppressed by society or men in general to make them go crazy about him. He is a natural leader in ANY situation.

A real alpha embraces the good type of feminism naturally.

Think about it.

JJ
 

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^ Well, I support "equity feminism" or "gender equity" in theory, too. Fair is fair.

However, mainstream American feminism in practice is the OPPOSITE of that and seeks less accountability but more privileges for women. They deny biological sex differences and believe we are all essentially androgynous at birth. Physical & behaviorial gender differences are all socialized due to "male oppression." Men are inherently bad, even though we were the creators and builders of the civilization they now all enjoy.

The few "equity feminists" who disagree with mainstream feminism are ostracized by them as pariahs - and so have little influence in their ideology. Meanwhile, radical misandrist feminists like Andrea Dworkin are embraced by most of them as iconic gods.

So, when I rant about "feminism," I'm talking about the popular movement here as a whole in actual practice.
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What would you do if you saw some guy beating his girlfriend on the street?

That's right, a real "alpha" would step in and help the woman, he would protect her god given rights.
Hard to say...what if it were a guy beating another guy? Would you automatically step in, not knowing whatsoever happened between the 2? Perhaps...it might even be "justified?" If not, then why should it be any different with a woman?

I mean, a woman's not going to die if you hit her, just like a guy won't either. We're all human. Heck, there's even women boxers now! Would you step in the ring and stop them, Captain Save-A-Ho? So, I don't see why it should necessarily an absolutely intolerable sin, no questions asked?
 
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Why is it the older I get the more I think of "feminism" as one giant ruse?

I suspect chicks secretly dont give a flying fvck about "feminism", knowing what I do now they never have or need to.

The burning of the bras and all that wank?...just another social gathering for a bunch of chicks, a day out with the girls no more no less which left men bumbling and stumbling over themselves, turning nothing into something.

The term "being played" comes to mind.

Well, I support "equity feminism" or "gender equity" in theory, too.
lol, how commendable of you. But again why do I feel like were all fvcking ourselves in the azz by even giving it all a second thought?




Hows that Evel Knievel? what a champion.
 

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I think equal rights is an economic conspiracy to drive down wages. Having twice as many workers by including women doubles the supply of available labor. Before women worked, one man's factory job would support a family of four, including retirement after thirty years. We'll never see that again in our lifetimes.
 

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LAWYER said:
me an my friend got into an arguement about feminisn.... he said that in order for you be successful in america that you have to embrace the feminist idea's... i just started laughing... but it got me thinking.... caz he back it up with... an example... He was able to name a whole bunch of successful feminist people.... MY QUESTION... CAN ANYONE TELL ME A SUCCESSFUL NONE FEMINIST PERSON THAT LIVES IN THE PRESENT... successful i mean rich felty rich...

Trump

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Why is it the older I get the more I think of "feminism" as one giant ruse?
thats funny because I think feminism is one giant FAT ASS.
 

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I think equal rights is an economic conspiracy to drive down wages. Having twice as many workers by including women doubles the supply of available labor. Before women worked, one man's factory job would support a family of four, including retirement after thirty years. We'll never see that again in our lifetimes.
very true.

the joke about it all is that now women are paying other women to look after their children in Day Care.

Women are still raising our children .. Children don't have mothers anymore.
 

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