My complete success/fail ratios for 2013. Thoughts?

[starfishandcoffee]

Last year, my resolution was to take down all interactions with women, log them, and just look at the raw numbers to see what I was working with. (My degree also kicked into high gear while I was working full time, so what you see here is almost all of the time I had to spend. Could have still probably tried harder.)

to give you guys a picture - I'm in the second half of my 20s and decently overweight (but I dress well). My game with women is almost always completely personality-driven...as a result of that, I started obsessing over going to the gym in the second half of last year.

The raw numbers:
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REJECTIONS - 41. (74.5% or a 7.5 in 10 chance of rejection)

TIER 1 DATE - where things stay G-Rated. 8. (14.5% or a 1.5 in 10 chance of a date)

TIER 2 DATE - where we at least kiss. 5. (9% or around a 1 in 10 chance of a kiss)

TIER 3 - fooling around - 1. (1.8 percent chance or an 0.2 in 10 chance of fooling around)

I did have a FB from the second half of 2012, so I wasn't *as* driven in getting laid as I really could have been. Was angry when I cut her loose around April - she was attractive and the sex was great, but she was literally insane and texted me at least 15 times a day (and more like 30 if I didn't respond).

I guess the question is...is 41 rejections child's play? Should I go for over 100?

 

[SamTheHobit]

I think you should get rejected so much that you can't count. Then you are approaching enough

 

[noheroes]

I don't think the number of rejections matter. It's far more important to look at why you got rejected, and in what stage of the process this rejection happened.

Personally, I've found that I tend to get rejected long after attraction has been established. It's rare that I get rejected up front. I've not done a lot of cold approach this past year (it's mostly been ecosystem game), so perhaps that is a factor. I come in with built-in credibility, generate attraction well, escalate, and usually **** close. Then at some point either I drop the ball, the girl decides she wants monogamy (with me or someone else), or I'm subconsciously projecting that I'm not holistically attracted and the girl bails. By the latter I mean that I'm a transparent person and I think a girl can tell easily if I just want to use her for sex and nothing else.

I will say that if you're not kissing on the first date you're probably not escalating well enough. I think there are only three first dates I've had in the past 13 months (out of probably 30+) that I didn't kiss on the first date. The first was a friendzone I was unsuccessfully attempting to plow through, the second was a little inhibited but responded quite well on the second date, and the third had some issues and wasn't emotionally vulnerable in the least.

So when these rejections happen, what does it look like? Is it a LJBF? Is it on the approach? Is it at the end of a date?

 

[starfishandcoffee]

So when these rejections happen, what does it look like? Is it a LJBF? Is it on the approach? Is it at the end of a date?

The "rejections" I mentioned were a combination of women who either rejected me out of hand, or number closes that were totally friendly to me until I mentioned a date (and then radio silence).

I don't get LJBF too often. Women almost always know what I'm after, and the ones I go out with are interested - at least temporarily. Should I try to mask this? Or is it a blessing in disguise?

 

[noheroes]

A number close should only be there as an assist to help you execute the plans you've already made. If you just number close and the girl gets weird when you mention a date, she probably just gave you her number to avoid rejecting you then and there. One of my favorite lines at the end of a conversation is "you're adorable, let's get drinks on X night." Then the phone number facilitates that happening. Plus, if she's going to reject you, she'll have to do it to your face. Make 'em choose.

I never mask my intentions, but I can go direct, intense, and sexual and make it work. The key for me is those three seconds after you say "You're cute as ****, let's hang out." If you hold your gaze while she sizes you up, and are totally in the moment, the girls often respond well.

 

[sighsigh]

Where are most of your interactions from? Cold approach?

 

[starfishandcoffee]

Where are most of your interactions from? Cold approach?

Most rejections were from cold approaches either on campus or around town. (A couple from work - and I'm not stupid enough to make asking out coworkers a habit.)

A couple of the dates (from both sections) were found online. I don't make a habit of online dating either, since most of the women on there are basket cases (that's where I met the crazy FB).