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BlackMos17

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Dont listen to to Spec and Spin. Most people will always want you to fail, dont let them tell you what you can and cant do. From one college guy to another, I dont do cold approaches on campus either, UNLESS something really situational is going down, which hasnt happened to me yet. Instead I try to chat it up before class or something. So basically I agree with Elky. In school try to make friends, develop some social proof and reserve cold approaches to off campus places. On campus only do it if you are sure of yourself because "you want to be that cool guy who knows everyone, not the creepy guy who cold approaches."
 

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spinaroonie said:
Tip for any Asian guy trying to hook up with white girls - downplay your ethnicity. Don't mention it, don't acknowledge it, don't bring up anything remotely related to Asians - especially in the first 30 minutes of a cold approach. Your goal at the onset is to crush all her stereotypes and prejudices towards Asian men. Do this and she'll soon forget she's talking to "just another Asian guy".

Keep in mind white guys doing a cold approach open with a blank slate. For Asian guys she's already assumed all sorts of things about you before you even open your mouth - and they're all negative. If white guys start with a baseline threshold of 0, for Asian guys it's in the negatives. Your goal is to get to 0. ASAP.

Also, way too many Asian guys have nasal voices with gay-sounding inflections. Stop that. An Asian guy with a deep, masculine baritone could even be sexy.

No bowl cuts.

And all the advice above is void if you've got an Asian accent. Accents are the biggest game-killer. Even Asian-American girls won't hook up with an Asian guy with an accent. Stick to FOBs.
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/15/militaryservice_wideweb__470x373,0.jpg
Asian? Uh, the above guys are PURE Asian (Lebanese). You mean to tell me that girls wouldn't find them attractive?? They are PURE Asian (Lebanese). Asian is NOT a look. Much like Latin or Arabic is not a look.
 

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BigJimbo said:
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/15/militaryservice_wideweb__470x373,0.jpg
Asian? Uh, the above guys are PURE Asian (Lebanese)....Asian is NOT a look. Much like Latin or Arabic is not a look.
Lebanon is in the Middle East, Chief. You're talking about an Arabic nation.

spinaroonie said:
Keep in mind white guys doing a cold approach open with a blank slate. For Asian guys she's already assumed all sorts of things about you before you even open your mouth - and they're all negative. If white guys start with a baseline threshold of 0, for Asian guys it's in the negatives. Your goal is to get to 0. ASAP
OP, IGNORE THIS GUY AT ALL COSTS. This is terrible advice. He has no clue what he's talking about. He thinks that white guys somehow have an advantage in the game over other races. Completely false. It all depends on the girl, circumstances, etc. Don't try to "downplay" the fact that you're Asian or any of that other horses.hit he said. Girls like confidence and someone who's comfortable in his own skin, not some dude that is ashamed of his race and tries to hide it somehow. I cannot stress enough how important it is that you disregard anything that comes out of this clown's mouth. He is most likely a troll, or a reincarnation of a poster that used to come on here and spam links of his videos that only got a few hundred views. The videos were all about how hard it is to get girls if you're Asian. I CONSTANTLY see short, skinny Asian guys with chicks that would probably run from me if I so much as tried to strike up a conversation. I probably witness Asian dudes with these girls more than any other race, although black and Hispanic dudes also have no problem pulling retarded amounts of hotties. Believe me, it is not a handicap. You are fine. Keep up the cold approaches and it seems like your self-confidence is already improving. F the haters (spinaroonie) and just keep up the good work.
 

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hey man, i rarely post on here anymore. but i just want to tell you that you're doing a great job. whenever you see a girl u really want to talk to, go up to her and talk to her. direct, indirect or situational doesn't really matter. if she likes you, you'll know it. i think social circle is good too but don't let it stop you from doing what you want. in my experience, if the girl doesn't likes you then she will point out everything bad about you and think what you do is creepy. but if the girl likes you then she will find you approaching her is really sweet and romantic. bottom line is, do what you think is best for you and don't "really" care about what other people around you are saying. the reason i emphasize the word "really" because i want you to be willing to listen to other people criticism/advices while filter out the one that you know is not helpful for you.

before i reach the conclusion, i want to remind you that to not get too hang up on those pua terms(negs, c/f, social circle, direct, indirect, etc.) if you open up to everybody, be outgoing and go after what you want. imo, you're already there.
 

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Let me tell you about Nelson. Nelson was an Asian guy on my campus who had a habit of "introducing" himself to randoms. Pretty soon word spread of his "introductions" and he developed a reputation as that creepy guy on campus who hit on all the girls.

In college, girls are still at that stage where what their friends think matters A LOT. And word spreads. Nobody wants to hook up with "that creepy loner guy" - it's social suicide.

Be weary of running cold approaches in closed environments like college campuses. They're best left to large, anonymous environments where you're not bound to run into the same people.

Join clubs, make friends, get invited to parties with alcohol, hook up with girls. That's college game.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
Lebanon is in the Middle East, Chief. You're talking about an Arabic nation.



OP, IGNORE THIS GUY AT ALL COSTS. This is terrible advice. He has no clue what he's talking about. He thinks that white guys somehow have an advantage in the game over other races. Completely false. It all depends on the girl, circumstances, etc. Don't try to "downplay" the fact that you're Asian or any of that other horses.hit he said. Girls like confidence and someone who's comfortable in his own skin, not some dude that is ashamed of his race and tries to hide it somehow. I cannot stress enough how important it is that you disregard anything that comes out of this clown's mouth. He is most likely a troll, or a reincarnation of a poster that used to come on here and spam links of his videos that only got a few hundred views. The videos were all about how hard it is to get girls if you're Asian. I CONSTANTLY see short, skinny Asian guys with chicks that would probably run from me if I so much as tried to strike up a conversation. I probably witness Asian dudes with these girls more than any other race, although black and Hispanic dudes also have no problem pulling retarded amounts of hotties. Believe me, it is not a handicap. You are fine. Keep up the cold approaches and it seems like your self-confidence is already improving. F the haters (spinaroonie) and just keep up the good work.
Dude, are you Asian? In the US? Otherwise STFU. Asians guys in America get a bad rap. None of the stereotypes associated with Asians are sexy.

If I'm a nerd into nerdy stuff, am I going to talk about comic books and Dungeons&Dragons during a pickup? There's nothing inherently wrong with these activities, it's the sort of guys that are ASSOCIATED with these activities that's the issue - guys that typically don't get girls. Since she doesn't know enough about you yet, she'll typecast you with all the other guys normally into these activities. Ergo, you don't talk about nerdy stuff like this in the first half-hour of a pickup.

Your aim during a pickup is to actively DISSOCIATE from anything that will harm you in anyway. And if you're an Asian guy, that includes all the negative stereotypes associated with Asian dudes. If an Asian dude starts talking about origami, fortune cookies and anime while trying to pickup a white girl, she's going to lump you in with all the other dorky sexless Asian guys - since that is the prevailing PERCEPTION of Asian men.

I'm not asking OP to disown his heritage - be proud of it, that's Alpha. But only "bring out the Asian" once you've established enough rapport with the girl that she KNOWS you're cool and not her perception of a typical Asian guy.
 

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spinaroonie said:
Dude, are you Asian? In the US? Otherwise STFU. Asians guys in America get a bad rap. None of the stereotypes associated with Asians are sexy.
Being smart and successful aren't sexy qualities, huh? Yeah, all chicks want a dumb homeless guy for their next date. What was I thinking?

Ergo, you don't talk about nerdy stuff like this in the first half-hour of a pickup.

Your aim during a pickup is to actively DISSOCIATE from anything that will harm you in anyway. And if you're an Asian guy, that includes all the negative stereotypes associated with Asian dudes. If an Asian dude starts talking about origami, fortune cookies and anime while trying to pickup a white girl, she's going to lump you in with all the other dorky sexless Asian guys - since that is the prevailing PERCEPTION of Asian men.
Talk about an inferiority complex from Hell. You're worse than The Asian Lover. Ok yeah, I agree. Don't talk about nerdy stuff during pickup. That has nothing to do with "downplaying" the fact that you are Asian. If you're talking to chicks that immediately think of origami and fortune cookies when they see an Asian dude then why the hell would you want to date such a retarded bimbo in the first place? Personally, I've never met a girl OR guy that perceives Asian dudes as loving origami and fortune cookies and chopsticks or whatever the hell else is associated with Asian culture. Sure, you have the stereotype of doing well in school...so what? Cry me a river.

...once you've established enough rapport with the girl that she KNOWS you're cool and not her perception of a typical Asian guy.
Yeah, again...maybe it's just a California thing but I have yet to meet someone has an immediately NEGATIVE opinion of Asians. Nobody ever says "Oh we shouldn't go out late....this is a predominantly Asian neighborhood, so there's a lot of crime." or "Who invited the Asian dude? Now he's going to embarrass us at the restaurant by asking for chopsticks and folding his napkin into a crane." You're freakin' paranoid, dude. Personally I like far more Asians that I come across than pretty much any other race, get along better, and have more intelligent conversations with them. Stop watching MadTV and thinking that's what people really think. Sure, people in this world are generally not very bright but learn to give humans SOME credit.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
Being smart and successful aren't sexy qualities, huh? Yeah, all chicks want a dumb homeless guy for their next date. What was I thinking?
I've gotta disagree here. Women do NOT reward smart nerds. Quit the opposite. Women go after the dregs of humanity many times. The males who you would feel deserve women the least. A smart successful guy gets the girl later in life, when she is ready to settle down. But in her youth? At partying age? She is not banging Asian computer science students. She is banging meat-head frat boys and douchebags of all different types

Don't sit there and pretend women all of a sudden reward males for the right reasons. This is why society has devolved, because the guys that gets the girls are ex cons, drug dealers, and jerk-offs in general. If your talking marriage material, yes the smart successful guy can win. But thats after she's fuked every bad boy in town
 

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Everyone's a Little Bit Racist from Avenue Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKg_ca3AgW0

Fact of life. Get used to it. California has a more open-minded culture with race. Mainly because almost half of it's demographics is a minority.

California lacks a majority ethnic group and is considered a minority-majority state, with non-Hispanic whites making up 42.3% of the population.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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TIC said:
I've gotta disagree here. Women do NOT reward smart nerds. Quit the opposite. Women go after the dregs of humanity many times. The males who you would feel deserve women the least. A smart successful guy gets the girl later in life, when she is ready to settle down. But in her youth? At partying age? She is not banging Asian computer science students. She is banging meat-head frat boys and douchebags of all different types

Don't sit there and pretend women all of a sudden reward males for the right reasons. This is why society has devolved, because the guys that gets the girls are ex cons, drug dealers, and jerk-offs in general. If your talking marriage material, yes the smart successful guy can win. But thats after she's fuked every bad boy in town
I'm not talking about the chicks all named Amber and Tiffany stumbling around at parties with red plastic cups filled with beer and puking over the balcony inbetween makeout sessions. I'm talking about high quality chicks. Personally, if I had the choice between being stereotyped as being smart or being dumb, I'd take the smart route. But that's just me. Maybe spin-"pity me for being asian"-aroonie feels different, I don't know.
 
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