MUST READ: This is how u get big.

Ratisson

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Every now and then i come on this site just to see what u guys have to say about ur workouts and i can honestly say not many of u actually knoiw what the fvck ur doing when it comes to getting big. U got guys posting their workout logs and they just dont push their muscles hard enough. I laugh at some of these posts. I read somewhere on this forum that if u want to bulk up u have to have absolutely NO cardio. fcvk me, where do u guys come up with this sh!t. If u want to get bigger, im gonna give u the guide to doing it right her on this post so read on. In 2 months if u dont see any significant improvement then u can post back and call me an idiot, but that will never happen because doing what i say will get u bigger.

The thing is that some of u just dont workout hard enough. U wanna get ur upper body bigger but u only do 1 exercise of chest , back, shoulders, and arms per workout. So her it is:
Monday (upper body):
Chest: 4 sets of dumbell flys. find out what the MAXIMUM weight u can do for this exercise. i.e lets say its 70lbs. U will do ur last set (4TH SET) on this weight. Your first 3 sets will build up to this weight. So u'll do ur 1st set on 40lbs and do 12 reps, 2nd set 50lbs, 12 reps. 3rd set 60lbs, 10-12 reps, and 4th set 10-12 reps. The reason the last 2 sets are 10-12 reps is because ur muscles are going to start getting exhausted as u do more.

SUPER SETS:
Back: 4 sets of pull downs. same thing as chest workor way up to you maximum.
Shoulders: 4 sets of military press. do same this as chest
-With back and shoulders u want to super set them both , which means u finish off ur back exercise and then u go right to ur sholders, with NO rest. Then when ur done shoulders u go to ur back again.

Chest: 4 sets of Bench press. again work ur way up to ur max

back: 4 sets of rows
sholders: 4 sets of exercise of your choice. Super set both back and shoulders.

Chest: Chose an exercise and do 4 sets.
Back; chose exercise and do 4 sets
Shoulders: Chose 4 exercise and do 4 sets.

U should be fvcking exhausted by now.
Forget about curls for today.
go do some core work.
find 4 exercises do 4 sets each. I recommend Russian twists, bicycle kicks, sit ups where u take a medicine ball hold it above ur head do a sit up with it where u are also throwing the ball at a wall and then u catch it and start ur way down on the sit up.

When ur doing these exercises the break that u take between sets is crucial to building muscle mass. Ur rest time between sets should be 1 minute maximum.
Also make sure that u workout on an empty stumache, when ur done ur workout have to load up on protein go eat a sub from subway or something and then go home and make a protein shake. If u want to start really gettin big u will have to start eating something every 2 hrs.
Day 2 (tuesday) : Do some lower body exercises
Do 3 quad exercises, 3 hamstring exercises, 3 inner thigh exercises, some calfs and then do arms. Do 3 bicep exercises super setted with 3 tricep exercises.

I will be fvcking sore after these workouts, if ur not, u probably didnt push urself hard enough. U should be doing Day 1's workout 3 times a week and day 2's workout 2 times a week. always make sure that u are eating lots of food throughout the day that way if u do cardio on top oif this (and believe me u wont fell like doing cardio after these workouts), but if u do decide to do cardio it shouldnt be a problem because u should be stuffing ur face with healthy foods after ur workouts. Follow this workout routine and u will be big in no time.
peace.
 

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If you're doing that many sets per muscle, with that much weight, why would you do the same workout twice per week? I would definitely be overtrained.
 

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If you are a dee..please don’t marry a dee... cause then your kids will be......
 

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Keep in mind that what works for you will not work for everyone else. We all respond differently to the stresses on our body. Also you went into so much detail with the upper body exercises, and than generalized the leg exercises which in my mind are the most important. Also you're implying doing isolated leg exercises. Doing compound leg exercises such as squats and deadlifts put enormous stresses on your entire body and will spark intense muscle growth not only in your legs but upper body aswell.

Nothing against your routine, but I thought I'd throw in my thoughts.

Cheers:woo:
 

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LOL...eat subway after you work out, then get your protein shake... uh-huh. Big credibility problem right there. That's not to say that Diesel's guides are the end-all be-all, but c'mon... subway, then a protein shake? Please don't give advice that sucks.

Deadlifts, squats... I never got big 'til I got serious about big compound lifts for the legs & back.

Sure, you'll get big on ratisson's program... as you would on Diesel's. And on at least a dozen other programs that have been posted here in the last 3 months.
 

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This was the last thread you started, Rat: (bolded mine)

im just wondering what everyone on this forum had maxed out on the bench press, My max was 245 pounds. That was about 7-8months ago, roday since i havent been working out for about a year i could probably do 225. and i weight about 170lbs. so just wondering how big you guys are on the bench vecause i think that is what determines ur real strength
I think this invalidates everything you just posted.
 

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Throttle said:
LOL...eat subway after you work out, then get your protein shake... uh-huh. Big credibility problem right there. That's not to say that Diesel's guides are the end-all be-all, but c'mon... subway, then a protein shake? Please don't give advice that sucks.
Actually having a protein drink and then hitting up McD's or a pizza place for the easiest 1000 calories you can eat ain't such a bad idea, if you're really skinny or really advanced and struggling to get the calories in: try eating 1000kcal from steak and rice right after a leg workout, it's so much easier to have a couple of double cheeseburgers. For the more 'carb sensitive' among us it's bad news, but even I do it every other week.

As for the program, I can't take any routine seriously that doesn't have squats or deadlifts or variations, sorry.
 

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Alex-- I agree with you, in THAT order...but if you load up on your 1000 fast food calories & THEN drop the shake (as ratisson initially described it), it can't possibly absorb quickly, and for my money that's what whey isolate is for. If you're going to eat a full meal right after your workout, why not just wash it down with eggs & milk?
 

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Throttle said:
Alex-- I agree with you, in THAT order...but if you load up on your 1000 fast food calories & THEN drop the shake (as ratisson initially described it), it can't possibly absorb quickly, and for my money that's what whey isolate is for. If you're going to eat a full meal right after your workout, why not just wash it down with eggs & milk?
it'll still get absorbed just not as optimally. but if you need 1000 cals from fast food to grow, then absorption of whey is the least of your worries, lol.
 

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I'm a personal trainer.

The guy who posted this thread does not know what he is talking about.

Check if someone can spell before considering the advice they give you.
 

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Re:

I agree with ^.

You guys, esp. the vets, should have seen this coming miles away.
Would you take advice from a PT who can't speak?
I can dismiss poor spelling here and there, but if you're so worldly and intelligent, then you must have caught on with basic english and literary fundamentals.

What he pushed, regardless of the ORDER, is the underlying PRINCIPLES, and they're WRONG based on what he provides, as a generality.

All workouts stem from PRINCIPLES...

what's your goal?

Then, what's your genetics like. Can you recover quickly? Even if you're a newbie who's genetics are whacked out to the good, you'd still begin with Deadlifts, Squats, Pullups, Chinups, Rows, Bench Press, and Dips. As stated previously, D + S = 70% of the body's muscle and more. So you want me to do cheesy machines, when for efficiency plus times sakes, I can pour more intensity into those exercises and get BETTER results?

You don't even need good genetics to grow with the core group, you'll Grow. But you need good genetics to grow with volume training, machines, and excessive isolation exercises.

I just wasted 2 minutes of my life replying to a post that's been stated elsewhere.

And the answer to mrRuckus' initial post is, "Dee Dee Dee." ?


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Warboss Alex said:
it'll still get absorbed just not as optimally. but if you need 1000 cals from fast food to grow, then absorption of whey is the least of your worries, lol.
lol fair enough. i'm fortunate (?!) to have never had that problem.
 

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A-Unit said:
I just wasted 2 minutes of my life replying to a post that's been stated elsewhere.
true...but you can't say it often enough for some of these kids
 
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