Movie making

[Alpine]

Yeah,

I'll check out Adobe's offering. Hopefully it's fairly instictual and lots of clever bits I can utilse with time. Moviemaker was great, but now seems a bit weak.

I used to like macs, before they were a commercial success

 

[il_duce]

And before they cost so damn much?

 

[Alpine]

I like the way Mr Gates stole all the best ideas (don't sue me), then had the gaul to claim apple nicked it.

For years pros in the media loved what was blatantly a better product and for years the boffins tried to make the masses love them again to no avail.

Then some marketing bod decided to make them transparent and suddenly they are cool again

 

[Climax]

I got a question...

This thread is interesting...

cinephile said:

If you really want to make big $$$ doing that kinda stuff, own your own website and produce your own material. for it. if you had 10,000 subscribers at $5 a month, you would gross $600k a year. Probably half of that would be pure profit.

IF thats true, then why dont alot more people do that? I mean... its a PORN site, you'll easily eventually get that 10,000 people to subscribe to you.. And with so much profit to be made, it sounds "too good to be true" ... Please elaborate


Laterz...

 

[cinephile]

There is more to it

It is a lot of work for that 600k. For any site, it is all about content, so you would have to be constantly devloping content all the time. That would probably be half of your job right there. You would probably would need somewhere in the range of 10 hours a week of new stuff. Also, you need to advertise a lot so that people know you are out there. There is also a lot of competition, so it is not like you are going to get that 600k right off the bat. It would probably take a while to develope, maybe 3 months, maybe a year. And finally you need to pay a webmaster, have a server, etc, etc. To do it big time, you would need plenty of cash, and enough free time time to dedicate to it. While I not could give you an exact number, it probably is somewhere around $50k to start it up. Once you get going though, the costs drop big time. Internet porn can be very very profitable.

 

[cinephile]

And rember a lot of people do it already. Just type porn into Google and tell me how many responses you get. Also you have got to complete against all the free porn that is already out there, so it is not easy. If you want to do it, it has to be unique and that can be hard.

I met the business manager of Danni's Hard Drive once, very cool guy. Used to be the Film Buyer for Landmark Theaters. That site net's over $8,000,000 a year. It helps though that they were one of the first out there and have a good reputation for high quality material.

Also remember, you are working in porn. A lot people look down on that.

 

[Alpine]

Yes I suspect it's a murky world.

Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas.

 

[Alpine]

There was a documentary on the top thre guys in porn the other night, one of them was the guy who made the Tommy and Pam tape so infamous, the other two where in at the begginning of the internet revolution- both crooks IMHO, one stole the rights to sex.com.

There is money there, but then again there's money to be made everywhere.

I had a look at Adobe Premiere and I think it's too much of a step change, so I'll be going down the Pinnacle plus 9.xx route for now.

Also, I didn't realise how hungry the general job market is for skills in this stuff and CGI etc. I read an interesting article on how in a year you can potentially get a job in these industries if you have some noggin.

 

[Komodo]

I think you can get a complete line of equipment for under 15,000.00 new what do you guys think?

 

[cinephile]

That sound about right. I've heard the $10,000 number tossed around a bit, so I think you are talking about the right price range. But remember that does not include the opportunity cost. It will take awhile to really learn how to use this stuff skillfully. Probably at least a year with constatnt work.

 

[Komodo]

Bump!!

 

[GrimPhallic]

I am sure we have all heard of Heather from ideepthroat.com. She hit it big, and she started out with her own site, and just her and her man doing porn together. They were so good at it that they got a lot of subscribers like ceno said and they did hit it bigtime... So it isnt too good to be true, but it is a lot of work...

 

[cinephile]

To make $$$ in Film/Video

You have to be able to control your distribution. The great thing about the internet, it has allowed a lot of people to start doing that. Here's a good example.

Okay, say you decided to make your own low budget movie (Genre does'nt matter). It is very possible to make something better than decent looking for $20,000. I am talking about a real 90 minute feature. The limitation would be that you would never have an actually film print, it would be all video. That is not a problem, becuase these days most eveybody watches films on DVD anyway.

Anyway, using the internet as your means of Marketing, you sell 10,000 copies of your film at $15 a pop. You would then gross $150,000, with probably half of that being actual profit.

This stuff is happening right now. Sure, you wont get that cash right away. It takes a while for people to know your out there, but if you put the effort forth, it does work.

The main thing is that you have to be completely dedicated to your project and treat seriously as the business that it is

 

[Alpine]

I've seen a nice Panasonic digicam, runs 24fps and is about £2100.

The look of the image is pretty much film like and the thing will almost fit in the palm of your hand.

Most serious PCs will cope with high end editing requiremnets, so cost of equipment is less of a hurdle nowadays.

 

[cinephile]

Actually

Somebody should seriously think about making a DJ instructual movie. Nothing too complicated, just showing people the basics of what works and what does'nt. It could be done probably pretty cheaply.