Most attraction and dating courses are pure garbage

[Mahmudul Hasan]

There was this David tian guy who promoted desire system course and there was a lot reviews by girls or whatever saying this guy discovered ways to turn on women from ancient text stuffs but what the course turned out to be was " be happy and girls will be happy around you because emotions are contagious"
I think most dating courses promoted in good manners turn out to be utter garbages
The only things that I have seen work are the classical guys such as mystery,swinggcat,rollo,roosh etc otherwise all the other dating stuffs promoted with hot girls photos and stuffs are nonsense. You are not going to get girls with magical stuffs as they promote their courses to be

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Hey, you found this out at 19. Imagine being as old as some of these suckers and finding out you wasted tons of money and time on that garbage. You came out ahead.

 

[BadBoy89]

The only things that I have seen work are the classical guys such as mystery,swinggcat,rollo,roosh etc otherwise all the other dating stuffs promoted with hot girls photos and stuffs are nonsense. You are not going to get girls with magical stuffs as they promote their courses to be

Rollo has been married to the same woman for 30 years. He got married in his 20s and has a daughter. He tells men in their 20s and 30s “don’t get married”

The stuff he promotes is garbage too, but it’s good for his bank balance.

 

[Mahmudul Hasan]

Rollo has been married to the same woman for 30 years. He got married in his 20s and has a daughter. He tells men in their 20s and 30s “don’t get married”

The stuff he promotes is garbage too, but it’s good for his bank balance.

Rollo is a professor and he doesn't need to be an alpha at all. He has been married so I can listen to his reasons as to why he suggest people to not get married early instead of listening to someone who has not experienced it at all

 

[RangerMIke]

These people make money selling common sense. It's crazy. I wouldn't say what they are selling is 'garbage' but every so often another seduction guru we re-package what we already intuitively know... make a few changes... and declare that it's all new stuff they 'just discovered'. What really works is not a magic pill... it's bust your butt in the gym... abandon bad habits... get new good habits... go out and do stuff... ask for dates... don't get discouraged. Rinse and repeat until you find a woman that is attracted and interested in you. You have to have the discipline and commitment to self improvement... and the balls to approach women and ask for what you want.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

The road to wisdom to find small wise nuggets of information and assemble them together into something that makes sense to you. Never take anything at face value, always use critical thinking.

 

[Smok1nAce]

They tell you the basics on courting, persuasion and woman's physiology.

20 years ago before the internet it might have helped totally inept people but with the internet you can get the basics in a 10 min youtube video.

Idk how old you are OP but people in general and the world where different before the internet and social media. Before 911, people vicariously moved through life by there own beliefs. The red pill isnt even a thing anymore considering most men are 'red pilled" by the time they can navigate the internet. Being red pilled 20 years ago gave you an edge in the dating scene.

Its hard to believe even for myself but they used to preach on this site years ago that you should soak up what you can and leave for an undetermined time to digest and use the information. Thats how powerful the nuances where at the time.

 

[BadBoy89]

Rollo is a professor and he doesn't need to be an alpha at all.

Being a professor has nothing to do with being Alpha. They are not related.

He has been married so I can listen to his reasons as to why he suggest people to not get married early instead of listening to someone who has not experienced it at all

Yet is he is still married and has a healthy functioning child.

To tell people what not to do when you get the benefits from physically, socially, and mentally, is illogical. That's like me buying the Lakers, getting filthy rich from it, then telling people "Don't buy the Lakers."

 

[Mahmudul Hasan]

Being a professor has nothing to do with being Alpha. They are not related.



Yet is he is still married and has a healthy functioning child.

To tell people what not to do when you get the benefits from physically, socially, and mentally, is illogical. That's like me buying the Lakers, getting filthy rich from it, then telling people "Don't buy the Lakers."

I have read his books and what he suggests is getting married after experiencing women a lot other than that having a family and child is important in life. Getting married is good but it's hard to pursue your passion after all the responsibilities you get from it

 

[Mahmudul Hasan]

Hey, you found this out at 19. Imagine being as old as some of these suckers and finding out you wasted tons of money and time on that garbage. You came out ahead.

Dude many of the courses are like "this stuff is really powerful. Don't use it for bad intention and manipulation. Don't use it to harm women. Don't use it on your mom"
I mean come on I actually believed that I could make mini female slave army with this and invade the neighboring countries

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I mean come on I actually believed that I could make mini female slave army with this and invade the neighboring countries

You're just following the wrong people.

I have what you crave, didn't need a dating coach to tell me how.

 

[jhonny9546]

They tell you the basics on courting, persuasion and woman's physiology.

20 years ago before the internet it might have helped totally inept people but with the internet you can get the basics in a 10 min youtube video.

Idk how old you are OP but people in general and the world where different before the internet and social media. Before 911, people vicariously moved through life by there own beliefs. The red pill isnt even a thing anymore considering most men are 'red pilled" by the time they can navigate the internet. Being red pilled 20 years ago gave you an edge in the dating scene.

Its hard to believe even for myself but they used to preach on this site years ago that you should soak up what you can and leave for an undetermined time to digest and use the information. Thats how powerful the nuances where at the time.

The internet can help you be more critical about things happening in your life that you cannot explain.
Redpill/Blackpill content narratives hold some truth.

We also must answer this question: Should we act unnaturally as persuaders or manipulators because it's attractive and will enable us to get everything in life, or should we just act as who we are, do what we want in life, and if a woman cheats or if women aren't attracted to us, just move on?

All this knowledge and learning is good, but we must choose how to act.

For me, I'm still learning and I don't have a definitive answer yet, because I do see that "persuasion" and other tactics work in life. So I might be myself, but also know how to manage/attract the things I want in my life.
I call it finding "luck" for myself.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

What really works is not a magic pill... it's bust your butt in the gym... abandon bad habits... get new good habits... go out and do stuff... ask for dates... don't get discouraged. Rinse and repeat until you find a woman that is attracted and interested in you. You have to have the discipline and commitment to self improvement... and the balls to approach women and ask for what you want.

Because so few men are willing to do this, particularly the approach women part, there will never be a lack of customers for seduction courses promising a magic fix.

 

[BaronOfHair]

There was this David tian guy who promoted desire system course and there was a lot reviews by girls or whatever saying this guy discovered ways to turn on women from ancient text stuffs but what the course turned out to be was " be happy and girls will be happy around you because emotions are contagious"
I think most dating courses promoted in good manners turn out to be utter garbages
The only things that I have seen work are the classical guys such as mystery,swinggcat,rollo,roosh etc otherwise all the other dating stuffs promoted with hot girls photos and stuffs are nonsense. You are not going to get girls with magical stuffs as they promote their courses to be

Sturgeon's Law remains omnipresent https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law

 

[BaronOfHair]

These people make money selling common sense. It's crazy. I wouldn't say what they are selling is 'garbage' but every so often another seduction guru we re-package what we already intuitively know... make a few changes... and declare that it's all new stuff they 'just discovered'. What really works is not a magic pill... it's bust your butt in the gym... abandon bad habits... get new good habits... go out and do stuff... ask for dates... don't get discouraged. Rinse and repeat until you find a woman that is attracted and interested in you. You have to have the discipline and commitment to self improvement... and the balls to approach women and ask for what you want.

Yeah, contemporary men could benefit immensely from leaving Red Pill claptrap back in The late 10s, and returning to what we were doing prior https://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000265.html (Note the date all that stuff was written)

I.E. Speaking and writing about these things in everyday language, rather than jargon, and ridding ourselves of the delusion that there's a silver bullet solution to anything

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I think it might be useful in certain situations. My case. Married over 10 years & suddenly single. Very blue-pilled & Disney-princess minded. Suddenly in world populated with OLD, #Me2, etc. I found Roosh & Rollo to be helpful.