Morals vs Penis: Girl with boyfriend is into me. Should I pursue?

[thechosenone2190]

To make a long story short...

HB is in a relationship with an AFC who I'm on good terms with but digs me 100x more. I can easily get in her pants if I wanted to. I also REALLY WANT to get it in with her as I'm still a beginner at all this stuff. Her borefriend is not my friend, but I do know and respect him in that he says hi to me whenever I say hi to him with a smile no homo. I met him a while back, but I don't ever hang out with him or ever see him for that matter. He's a nice guy though, and he is on my good side, just based off the friendly vibe he gives off to me no homo.

Further details:
1. HB lied to me about her name so I can't find her on Facebook and see her relationship status (but I found out about it just recently, which brings me here)
2. HB gave me her phone number the first day I met her in class
3. HB told me she doesn't know her boyfriend when I mentioned his name a while ago. I asked if she knew him because, at the time, I knew they were both from the same place, not because I knew they were in a relationship.
4. HB and I can never be in a LTR, but I'm not sure if she thinks the same way
5. HB often sits next to me cross legged with her hand caught between her legs in class

If I happen to tap that, I may screw up something special between them out of my own selfishness. They'll both suffer, and I'll be the only one to gain something from this situation. Am I right?

What should I do? I want the world to be a better place following my course of action, not one of greater disorder and havoc. I have morals, but I also have a penis, and they're in great conflict.

Edit: I'm agnostic

 

[TIC]

Go ahead and fuk her. The dating game is too hard nowadays to be turning down perfectly good p*ssy. With the *****iness and flakiness that goes on today, men should take what they can get

It only gets worse every year, only gets harder to get women. Enjoy while it lasts

 

[justkyle]

fuk her. Odds are if she will fuk u she is fukkin around behind his back anyway. No sense in missing out on something great.

 

[maqnetik]

never

 

[Groovy]

I say No. It doesn't seem like a respectful action to do. How cool is that, to screw a girl with a boyfriend? DO men of honour do that? I'm not completley sure about this tho, I still have to read someone's opinions on this, but I say no, it seems like a lame thing to do. There are more girls out there with no bfs. Plus, it may come back to hunt you later in one way or another. Good luck!! If you don't get this 1, find another girl, simple as that! I think it would avoid many complications to just not do this. I haven't read the post tho. And I can't explain very well why I say this, it just sems like a no no.

 

[Tovansky]

i believe in karma. never fuk somebody's wife or a virgin. that's the rule. but it's all on your judgement man.

 

[lynch1000s]

Ditch the hoe.

Just remember what God would tell you, thou shalt not covet another man's possession.

So heads up.

:woo: :cheer:

 

[Alle_Gory]

Yea go ahead, but there will be a cost. Your self respect. You can fvck the cheating ho, or you can put in some effort and find a single girl.

 

[Radharc]

To make a long story short...

HB is in a relationship with an AFC who I'm on good terms with but digs me 100x more. I can easily get in her pants if I wanted to. I also REALLY WANT to get it in with her as I'm still a beginner at all this stuff. Her borefriend is not my friend, but I do know and respect him in that he says hi to me whenever I say hi to him with a smile no homo. I met him a while back, but I don't ever hang out with him or ever see him for that matter. He's a nice guy though, and he is on my good side, just based off the friendly vibe he gives off to me no homo.

Further details:
1. HB lied to me about her name so I can't find her on Facebook and see her relationship status (but I found out about it just recently, which brings me here)
2. HB gave me her phone number the first day I met her in class
3. HB told me she doesn't know her boyfriend when I mentioned his name a while ago. I asked if she knew him because, at the time, I knew they were both from the same place, not because I knew they were in a relationship.
4. HB and I can never be in a LTR, but I'm not sure if she thinks the same way
5. HB often sits next to me cross legged with her hand caught between her legs in class

If I happen to tap that, I may screw up something special between them out of my own selfishness. They'll both suffer, and I'll be the only one to gain something from this situation. Am I right?

What should I do? I want the world to be a better place following my course of action, not one of greater disorder and havoc. I have morals, but I also have a penis, and they're in great conflict.

Edit: I'm agnostic

He is allready screwed if she´s hiding to other guys that she has a boyfriend, so it´s a matter of time before he suffers. She´s allready on the market looking for a branch to swing.

That said, I wouldn´t do it. It´s bad karma. I would probably keep in touch though and wait for him to be out of the picture.

 

[TIC]

i believe in karma.

Karma? Really? What's with all this karma talk? Are you people retarded?

Just look at any CEO or cooperate schmuck and how they screw the average citizen daily by shipping jobs overseas and putting profits ahead of people. And believe me they got to those high positions but stepping on the faces of others, eating corpses, and robbing people high and dry. Savages.

Where's their karma? Maybe on their private jets they have to wait an extra 30 minutes before take off while they get massaged by beautiful women and eat gourmet meals.

I don't want to hear anymore of this idiotic karma talk

Screw the chick with no remorse. No guilt. If yo keep going through life passing up opportunities like these YOU WILL CERTAINLY REGRET IT LATER. Women screw men over ALL THE GODDAM TIME. And they ain't worryin about karma either. Why the hell should you even hesitate at this opportunity?

 

[Radharc]

Karma? Really? What's with all this karma talk? Are you people retarded?

Just look at any CEO or cooperate schmuck and how they screw the average citizen daily by shipping jobs overseas and putting profits ahead of people. And believe me they got to those high positions but stepping on the faces of others, eating corpses, and robbing people high and dry. Savages.

Where's their karma? Maybe on their private jets they have to wait an extra 30 minutes before take off while they get massaged by beautiful women and eat gourmet meals.

I don't want to hear anymore of this idiotic karma talk

Screw the chick with no remorse. No guilt. If yo keep going through life passing up opportunities like these YOU WILL CERTAINLY REGRET IT LATER. Women screw men over ALL THE GODDAM TIME. And they ain't worryin about karma either. Why the hell should you even hesitate at this opportunity?

Man, you chose who you want to be, what are your standards of behaviour, what are the things that you can live with and the ones that would make you feel a better person, and the ones that you believe would make you a worst person. What is important to you?

Becoming a "corporate schmuck" (your own evaluation of them) with an airplane or someone that you could actually respect?

And its not cool of you to tell ppl in a forum what do you want to hear like you own the place.

And you only regret passing opportunities that are hard to come by, is screwing a hb 8 an opportunity that hard to come by? and is worth throwing your moral compass in the trash? You chose.

 

[TIC]

And you only regret passing opportunities that are hard to come by, is screwing a hb 8 an opportunity that hard to come by? and is worth throwing your moral compass in the trash? You chose.

What is the point of playing by the rules if the game is rigged to begin with? Think about that question long and hard.

There's no such thing as karma. The advice being given here is idiotic and will only cause deep regret in the OP's life later on. It is NOT easy to bed 8's I don't care what kind of bs you come up with or the lies that some of these dj's and pua's tell.

He should take the opportunity because its hard to come by, and will only get harder as the years go on.

 

[Paintballguy]

I'd fvck her with no remorse. You don't know her boyfriend.

 

[Alle_Gory]

What is the point of playing by the rules if the game is rigged to begin with? Think about that question long and hard.

There are no rules in life. There are personal rules though. I wouldn't do it, not under those conditions. But maybe the OP has a different moral code to abide by.

There's no such thing as karma.

Sure there is, and there's nothing mystical about it. You do bad things, you become a bad person, and people will treat you like sh*t. It's who you turn into that attracts more of the bad from people.

 

[thechosenone2190]

this debate sounds exactly like what's going on in my head lol headache errgh

 

[Alle_Gory]

this debate sounds exactly like what's going on in my head lol headache errgh

What would a person who is exactly like you do in this situation? Then do that.

You have to detach yourself a little bit in order to see it.

 

[ENIGMA16]

I used to have this debate when I was in your situation. I ended up being wasted and going for it.

Go with your balls.

 

[Myrrdin]

Ask yourself this question: "Is it ok to dump any morality, decency and honor for a night of sex?". If you care about the dude then don't do it (Bros before hos?). Let her break up with him and then go for it or you could speed things up by continuing to game her.

Gaming her might be OK, it's not as bad as fvcking her. Right?

 

[ENIGMA16]

If you care about the dude then don't do it (Bros before hos?).

Except the dude isn't his "bro".

 

[zekko]

Just remember what God would tell you, thou shalt not covet another man's possession.

This girl is not this guy's possession, he's just her boyfriend. They aren't married, or engaged. There's no real commitment there (as you can see by the way she is acting). If I really wanted this girl I wouldn't let the boyfriend stop me.

Having said that, I wouldn't proceed with this girl. Not because of the boyfriend, but because she lied to you, and lied about her boyfriend. That indicates she is a low quality woman, and that would turn me off. I know you probably just want her for some quick sex, but I would still find this behavior unattractive. If she's capable of being that dishonest, what else is she capable of? Trying to get pregnant by you to force a relationship? She sounds manipulative, I would pass. I don't need the drama.

The other thing I would say is that I would not come between a couple just for cheap sex. I would respect the boyfriend unless I was sincerely attracted to the girl on more than just the physical level. That's just me though, I know others here would disagree.