Money for Pu$$y

[azanon]

So what are your thoughts on this?

As a man, part of your value has to do with your wealth and status.

If you had unlimited cash, like the kind of money that would never run out, would you play the role? To what extent would you use your wealth to attract women?

Keep in mind that part of the reason you have always lusted after that mansion and Ferrari is because your monkey brain KNOWS that those kinds of things make chicks pay attention.

How far would you go?

I would use it to the extent that I could afford to.

How much money you have is a reflection of part of who you are in this world. Take myspace for instance. Myspace has a listing of 12-15 stats on the side, each of which says a little something about you. Income is one of them because "income" does tell something about you.

Again, use logic to consider this: If you had a gorgeous woman, 5'11, perfect body, and intelligent too, aren't you going to go for the guy with great character, great looks, AND lots of money (who could afford to buy you tons of shoes) vs. a guy who just has the first 2. Of course you are!

If you're playing poker, I suggest using every great card you have in your deck. If you have the ace of spades but think "that looks like an evil card, so I wont use it", then you will definitely lose more poker games than you would otherwise. Personally? I'd want to win as much as possible.

 

[mrRuckus]

afford to.

How much money you have is a reflection of part of who you are in this world. Take myspace for instance. Myspace has a listing of 12-15 stats on the side, each of which says a little something about you. Income is one of them because "income" does tell something about you.

I wish those sites would take that out. People assume you don't make much if you leave it blank, but i really would leave it blank because i don't everyone to know i make like 100k and either look like i'm bragging or have people like me more or less based on my income.

Just like i assume a woman on a dating site has kids if she leaves that blank... or is fat if she doesn't choose a body type... shrug.

 

[azanon]

... or is fat if she doesn't choose a body type... shrug.

There's a 100% sure-fire way to determine this. If there are all head shots of her photos, or "breasts and up" photos only, ......she's fat. Period. No debating it at all.

If she has a hot body and isn't fat, it's fact that there will be a full body shot of her in her profile/photo album.

 

[edger]

Something I forgot to add last night to this discussion about money and women....

My mom, a very attractive woman, seperated from my dad(by the way, my dad was good to her, so it wasn't a case of her leaving because of neglect, abuse, etc.). At the time she chose to leave my dad, my dad worked for the Federal government making good money(he still works for the Federal gov't doing security) as a retired Police Officer. So he not only makes good money working for the Fed., but also collects a Police pension on top of it. Now, my mom chose to leave my dad for a guy who's also a retired Police Officer who only lives off his pension money from the Police Dept. After he retired from the P.D., he did carpentry jobs periodically. It wasn't a full-time gig. She is still with this man to this day(I don't ever think she'll leave him, she's been with him since 1992). The point I'm trying to make, is that, my dad makes much more money than him, always has, yet my mom chose the guy who makes less money over my dad. My dad lives in an affluent neighborhood here on Long Island, big house, big property, etc. He's lived there since 1999. Houses in his area are in the millions. YET my mom still hasn't expressed interest in him. My mom currently lives in a small house in an avg. middle income area with this man who she pretty much supports(yes, she has always been this guys money ticket).

So if "wealth" was really such a big deal, then why did my mom choose this guy who has much less than my dad, and why all the other cases that I've mentioned, and why is Str8up having such a hard time? Really, I think you guys need to ask yourselves that.

 

[SoCalMike]

When I say having money I mean being worth 50 million plus, not the guy that is making 250,000 dollars a year.

This is an important distinction which many guys forget.

The issue of money doesn't really weigh in heavily with hot girls until you're FILTHY rich. Upper middle class isn't going to pull much pvssy.

My take on the whole issue is this: if you're filthy rich AND good looking, you've got it made. If you're filthy rich but you're a fat bald midget, you'll just get gold diggers who may put out occasionally while they bang hotter guys behind your back + you'll have a TON of gold diggers with no intention of banging you at all. It's like the ugly rich dude at the strip club throwing out 100's, the girls milk these suckers for all they're worth.

 

[ketostix]

Something I forgot to add last night to this discussion about money and women....

My mom, a very attractive woman, seperated from my dad(by the way, my dad was good to her, so it wasn't a case of her leaving because of neglect, abuse, etc.). At the time she chose to leave my dad, my dad worked for the Federal government making good money(he still works for the Federal gov't doing security) as a retired Police Officer. So he not only makes good money working for the Fed., but also collects a Police pension on top of it. Now, my mom chose to leave my dad for a guy who's also a retired Police Officer who only lives off his pension money from the Police Dept. After he retired from the P.D., he did carpentry jobs periodically. It wasn't a full-time gig. She is still with this man to this day(I don't ever think she'll leave him, she's been with him since 1992). The point I'm trying to make, is that, my dad makes much more money than him, always has, yet my mom chose the guy who makes less money over my dad. My dad lives in an affluent neighborhood here on Long Island, big house, big property, etc. He's lived there since 1999. Houses in his area are in the millions. YET my mom still hasn't expressed interest in him. My mom currently lives in a small house in an avg. middle income area with this man who she pretty much supports(yes, she has always been this guys money ticket).

So if "wealth" was really such a big deal, then why did my mom choose this guy who has much less than my dad, and why all the other cases that I've mentioned, and why is Str8up having such a hard time? Really, I think you guys need to ask yourselves that.

Well Edger I think both your dad and this other guy are both middle-class. Your dad may be upper-middle class but he's not rich either. Although your dad has slightly more money than the other guy, it's not really the same thing as comparing a guy making sub-middle class income and someone really wealthy. Plus it could be your mom is an exception since she's not exactly in tight financial shape herself. No offense to your mom but it's doubtful at her age she could get some wealthy guy. These guys want a 20-30 year old woman. I think what people were saying is a young hot girl who's not settled in her career would be attracted to a guy with wealth.

 

[STR8UP]

I disagree Str8up. In your first post, you were talking about ferrari's and mansions....most guys don't have that. Most guys work for a living. That's reality.

Fact, you don't need mansions and ferraris to attract women.

You are talking extremes here..being poor, or being extremely wealthy.

What about the average guy that falls in between this? Me included. Let me guess, that average guy is out there bangin hotties and doesn't have time to argue with you.

You don't need to flaunt wealth to impress women. Period. If you do, you are doing something wrong. Fix it.

You completely miss the point of this post because all you can do is transpose your current situation (which you see as being your permanent situation) onto the topic.

This has nothing to do with the "average guy" or his ability to attract women. It has nothing to do with HAVING to flaunt something to attract women.

IMO, every single last guy on here would alter his lifestyle if he was a billionaire, and some of the things he would do would be to help him attract women, even if he isn't willing to admit it.

The question was, "If you came into an astronomical sum of money, would you use it to your advantage in the mating game?"

It's not the actual money their attracted to its your ability to get the money (the journey not the destination) that their attracted to. They see you as a success.

I very much agree with this statement, however, visual displays of wealth are the icing on the cake. And it doesn't have to be "flaunting" anything. It can be subtle and women will still pick up on it.

I'd use it so far to project the image of success and someone chicks want to be with.

The guy where the party is basically.

And none of them would ever see a dime of my money.

Well ok I guess they'd see it in the clothes and expensive watches and rings I'd be wearing but yeah there'd be no buying everyone in the bar rounds of drinks, no taking chicks on trips or buying them anything costlier than maybe a cup of coffee and even thats stretching what I'd be willing to spend on any chick that I just want to bone knowing what I know now.

No chick would ever get away with playing the string along blue ball game with me if I was a bazillionairre.

You nailed it. THAT'S the attitude to have.

You don't turn into a supplicating wuss who throws cash at women, but being "the man", being "where the party is at" is still going to cost you.

Hell, I'm not a billionaire and I don't play bigwig, but even I have to buck up from time to time because I live close to all of the action, and being the owner of a well known business I have to play up to the role, to an extent. I have to keep my place stocked with drinks for when I have guests, etc.

And it isn't just about chicks either. Projecting an image of success can help you make money in and of itself.

Str8up, in total honesty, to better aquaint you with myself, I definitely wouldn't lump myself in the "wealthy" category, but I can say that I do make decent money. Enough to make a living from and completely support myself. I'd lump myself in the "average/middle income" category. People(especially you for some reason) think that those who speak the way I do about money and women, must not have money or don't think they'll ever have money. Not true at all. It isn't just "broke" people who speak as I do.

I can tell when people have resigned themselves to always being in that "middle" category.

You know how I can tell this? Because you didn't even bother to read and comprehend my post, you just responded by defending the fact that "it doesn't take money to land pu$$y". Same with Mr. Positive. I like both of you guys and several others on here who think the same way, but I honestly believe your self-limiting beliefs will hold you back in life.

I personally think this is a bad thing because you will never exceed the limits you place upon yourself, but I understand where it comes from since I grew up believing the same thing.

Think about it, and do yourself a favor and open your mind to bigger things.

Amen again.

Str8up, if your "wealth" was such a chick magnet for ya, then why are you still single at 36?

1) I never claimed to be wealthy

2) I don't have a "goal" to be married or in a relationship

Why are you still having woman troubles? Every month it's something about this chick, that chick, that chick, etc.

I don't have any more woman troubles than the next guy. I just enjoy picking apart male/female relations, so everyone assumes that I'm neurotic about it or something.

Look at all these wealthy guys who use escorts because women don't come easy to them. Like I've said, most of an escorts clientelle are wealthy men. And guys, spare me the cop-outs that they do it "because it's easier to f*ck an escort so they don't get caught". Cop-outs because they can't be honest and be a man about it and admit that it's tough out there.

It isn't the slightest bit "tough" to get laid if you are wealthy. If you don't understand that by now you never will.

Go to a third world country and see the way the women treat you. While they have not had the issues with feminism that western first world countries have had they do like you because of your status. They know a man who can travel is probably a lot more wealthy then the guy she is dating. Yes, there are other factors that appeal to them but that is the primary one. Your status. You end up having a lot of women chasing you. 10's that would suck your toes and let you **** them up the arse if you stick around a bit. Its a real eye opener.

Sorry, I have seen enough of it in my life. Money talks, bull**** walks. Money and fame are the two biggest aphrodisiacs there are. You have either of those and you are going to **** half the country.

Spot on.

I was in eastern Europe for a couple of weeks and the women look at you like you're a rock star everywhere you go. I had two friends fighting over me within a couple of days. It's a bizarre feeling to step off the plane back in America where you are just another face in the crowd.

I get a taste of it here in the states as well, since I have a certain amount of status within my social circle, but not to the extent that I would if I were worth 100mil.

 

[Mr.Positive]

You completely miss the point of this post because all you can do is transpose your current situation (which you see as being your permanent situation) onto the topic.

This has nothing to do with the "average guy" or his ability to attract women. It has nothing to do with HAVING to flaunt something to attract women.

IMO, every single last guy on here would alter his lifestyle if he was a billionaire, and some of the things he would do would be to help him attract women, even if he isn't willing to admit it.

The question was, "If you came into an astronomical sum of money, would you use it to your advantage in the mating game?"

Uh...Str8up? I answered your question in my first post in this thread. You actually responded to it saying it was a typical PC response. I'll state it again..

If I came into an astronomical sum of money, I would use it to help people that are less fortunate than myself. I'm not trying to be altruistic, but that's just what I do. Maybe start up a non-profit org or something. Quit my job and focus on that.

I wouldn't use it to gain advantage with women. I don't believe you need tons of money to impress women. Your financially average guy can do just fine if he wants to. I have no interest in gold diggers personally.

 

[edger]

Well Edger I think both your dad and this other guy are both middle-class. Your dad may be upper-middle class but he's not rich either. Although your dad has slightly more money than the other guy, it's not really the same thing as comparing a guy making sub-middle class income and someone really wealthy. Plus it could be your mom is an exception since she's not exactly in tight financial shape herself. No offense to your mom but it's doubtful at her age she could get some wealthy guy. These guys want a 20-30 year old woman. I think what people were saying is a young hot girl who's not settled in her career would be attracted to a guy with wealth.

I can tell you for a fact that my dad has more than "slighty" of what this guy has. My dad has at least half more of what he has.

My dad would take my mom back in a heart-beat if she decided tomorrow that she wants to come back. He tried to get back with her for years after she left him. My mom has always known(and still knows) she has that option. So my point is, my mom knowing that she still has my father to go back to as an option, isn't phased by the fact that he's wealthier than the guy she's with now. She doesn't care.

 

[edger]

I can tell when people have resigned themselves to always being in that "middle" category.

You know how I can tell this? Because you didn't even bother to read and comprehend my post, you just responded by defending the fact that "it doesn't take money to land pu$$y". Same with Mr. Positive. I like both of you guys and several others on here who think the same way, but I honestly believe your self-limiting beliefs will hold you back in life.

I personally think this is a bad thing because you will never exceed the limits you place upon yourself, but I understand where it comes from since I grew up believing the same thing.

Think about it, and do yourself a favor and open your mind to bigger things.

I did read and comprehend your post. I comprehended it perfectly well. I just felt like giving Mr. Positive the thumbs up on what he stated.

1) I never claimed to be wealthy

2) I don't have a "goal" to be married or in a relationship

You never claimed to be wealthy??? That's all you talk about on here; how you have high status because you own a well-known business that generates you a lot of income. What are you talking about? You talk about living in an affluent part of town, driving an expensive car, owning an expensive loft/condo, or whatever it is you have. Haha, this is getting funny.

Maybe not everyone has a goal to be married or be in a relationship, but you still seem to be struggling with the ladies. Your past posts(recent and unrecent) are proof of that. And that's perfectly ok, I'm not knockin' ya for that; I know, it's tough to pull(f*ck) the hotties with regularity.

I don't have any more woman troubles than the next guy. I just enjoy picking apart male/female relations, so everyone assumes that I'm neurotic about it or something.

All I'm saying, is that, you have trouble..again, which is cool, it's not easy out there.

It isn't the slightest bit "tough" to get laid if you are wealthy. If you don't understand that by now you never will.

Sure it isn't. I've already pointed out more than once that wealthy men use escorts. You even see wealthy guys frequenting strip clubs. Think of all the Wall St. guys, etc. These things are all a fact. Wealthy men have it just as rough. If you can't understand THAT, then you never will.

 

[Mr.Positive]

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You know how I can tell this? Because you didn't even bother to read and comprehend my post, you just responded by defending the fact that "it doesn't take money to land pu$$y". Same with Mr. Positive. I like both of you guys and several others on here who think the same way, but I honestly believe your self-limiting beliefs will hold you back in life.

Str8up, we like you too. Though I disagree with you. First, I answered your question in my first post. Second, I have no "self-limiting beliefs".

Everyone can do anything they want to in life, if they just believe in themselves.

I believe that seeking money as a way to satisfy the happiness that missing from life, is a cheap escape. It's a detour, taking a person down a road that will never end, because there is just "not enough money".

Money means **** to me after I've paid my bills and can do what I want. As long as I can pay for my freedom, I'm happy as a clam on a high tide.

Don't get me wrong, I'm nesting away for retirement someday, I will be comfortable. But I just think it's bad advise to preach that in order to be a success in our ever-so-happy western world, we need to prove our worth, by displaying monetary value.

And we complain about women being shallow. :crazy:

As men if we lead by example, and not putting money ahead what's really valuable..maybe, society can grow as a whole.

But, I'm an idealist here...and I did state I would be in the minority.

Besides, I'd rather be the average guy financial...who's pulling women by generating true attraction, by being a quality man...than attraction based upon wealth.

 

[STR8UP]

I believe that seeking money as a way to satisfy the happiness that missing from life, is a cheap escape. It's a detour, taking a person down a road that will never end, because there is just "not enough money".

The problem is that when people hear the word "money" they get all emotional. They assume things. Money is not the key to a happy life, it is part of it.

The biggest BS statement of all time is "Money can't buy happiness".

It most certainly can.

But you have to be the right person.

Money will make you more of what you are. If you are an ass hole, you will be a bigger ass hole. If you are a cool cat, it will make you cooler. If you are a great guy, it will make you greater.

But I just think it's bad advise to preach that in order to be a success in our ever-so-happy western world, we need to prove our worth, by displaying monetary value.

Again, when the subject of money comes up, you hear what you want to hear.

I said nothing about needing to prove your worth by displaying monetary value.

The thing is, you are in denial as to the power that resources (money being one of them) or the ability to acquire resources has to increase your value in the mating game.

Besides, I'd rather be the average guy financial...who's pulling women by generating true attraction, by being a quality man...than attraction based upon wealth.

You take for granted that "true" attraction has nothing to do with money, resources, etc., as if a "good" woman is blind to this sort of thing.

I'm here to tell you unequivocally that no matter how much you would like to believe that there are women out there who have absolutely zero interest in a mans potential to bring home the bacon, it simply isn't true.

Again, all things equal, any sane woman will choose the man with the means versus the guy without potential. We all know that it's never that simple, but it IS a factor for every woman on the face of the earth. And if things WERE completely equal and she chose the man of lesser means, it would be out of rebellion or some other ulterior reasoning, NOT out of true desire.

Women will almost always choose the man of means, and use external factors to justify their decision.

You never claimed to be wealthy??? That's all you talk about on here; how you have high status because you own a well-known business that generates you a lot of income.

have I claimed to be wealthy or that my business generates a high income? NEVER.

Status? Yes. I have status. You don't have to be super wealthy to have status.

What are you talking about? You talk about living in an affluent part of town, driving an expensive car, owning an expensive loft/condo, or whatever it is you have. Haha, this is getting funny.

I do live in the best part of town, and I have a nice car. Doesn't mean sh!t. But perception is reality. People talk me up because they ASSUME that I am a high roller.

Truth be told, I have taken a few to the chin over the last few years. I am in the process of restructuring and re-assessing my resource base, and I have recently started a new business that has high potential.

But you know what really matters? What really matters is that

1) Once people pedestalize you, they don't want to take you off the pedestal. I had to scale down due to the restructuring of my business dealings, but it has no bearing on how people perceive me. I STILL have the status I had when i was playing high roller

2) I have complete confidence in the fact that I am destined for greatness. I have more knowledge and talent in areas that really matter than a team of a dozen PhD's, and I happen to be a college dropout.

 

[lookyoung]

STR8UP you have a wrong way of looking at things when talking about money. I come from an upper middle class family and I could tell you that money has nothing to do with happiness. Part of being happy is being non materialistic and letting go of possessions. My grandparents grew up in the poorest part of Eastern europe. When I say poor I mean never had a tv, Never had a radio. No running water, They barely had enough food to survive, but I guarantee you they were happier than 99% of the millionaires today. Happiness comes from within and you cannot get it from an outside source.

 

[STR8UP]

STR8UP you have a wrong way of looking at things when talking about money.

Absolute B.S.

Ever heard the saying "Anyone who says money can't buy happiness never had any"? Well, it's true.

When you have had a a taste of what wealth can provide for you as opposed to wondering where your next meal will come from or how secure your future will be, you will understand what I am saying.

I do not claim that money is NECESSARY for happiness, but most of the people who preach the whole "Money doesn't matter" sermon have no idea what they are talking about.

Did you know that wealthier couples are less likely to divorce? Or that one of the BIGGEST issues couples fight over is MONEY?

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if you have half a brain on your head and know how to manage money as opposed to having money manage YOU, your life will be better.

And who said wealth has to have anything to do with materialism or possessions? It has to do with long term SECURITY.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

STR8UP you have a wrong way of looking at things when talking about money. I come from an upper middle class family and I could tell you that money has nothing to do with happiness. Part of being happy is being non materialistic and letting go of possessions. My grandparents grew up in the poorest part of Eastern europe. When I say poor I mean never had a tv, Never had a radio. No running water, They barely had enough food to survive, but I guarantee you they were happier than 99% of the millionaires today. Happiness comes from within and you cannot get it from an outside source.

Upper middle class? Thats not money mate and you are totally missing the point. Middle class is AVERAGE. Middle class is not HIGH STATUS. Upper middle class means your folks are still wage slaves. Thats not money.

If you think a person who battles to put food on the table is going to be happy then you have a pretty ****ed up view of the world. Never had to struggle eh? I tell you right now working 16 hour days just to eat is not anyones definition of happiness.

People think that money makes them unhappy because they work long hours for it and neglect their families and interests because of it. Its the work that makes them unhappy, NOT THE MONEY. They would give up material assets if it means more time to pursue things they enjoy.

When you are making a lot of money and enjoy your line of work, your work/life balance hits parity.

The problem is most people are so ****ing backward the idea and concept of career is so important to them they toil away aiming for that upper middle class existence. When they get there they realise their quality of life has not improved simply because their standard of living improved. They blame the pursuit of money for that. They think they have money yet they are still unhappy.

 

[ketostix]

Anyone who is in poverty who's happy and can attract desirable women would only be more happy and attract more women with wealth. Money gives you freedom and the time and options to do anything you want.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Many human physical traits function as fitness indicators – as cues of viability, fertility, and/or genetic quality. In males, these fitness-indicator traits appear to include height, upper-body musculature, beard growth, jaw size, brow ridge size, and facial attractiveness; in females, these include breasts, buttocks, waists, skin condition, and facial attractiveness. From the standpoint of purely sexual attraction / arousal, these indicators are what we use for comparison among potential mates.

Disagree. For Male to female attraction, yea. But for female to male attraction, no. The conensus among sociologists that have researched the subject is that there is something deeper. Women are attracted to men with drive and confidence. Many men derive their bulk of self confidence from keeping in physical shape, it’s the confidence however that attracts the women, not the physical body. Most agree that since it happens at an unconscious level, it appears as though she is attracted to the six pack abs. However I’ll concede that this confidence derived from having these “physical indicator traits” is enough to pull A$$ from nightclubs and such. When she realizes there is no drive, and this confidence is based only on looks she’s gone, as she realizes on some level that she has been fooled by his superfluous confidence.

However, our mental traits and behavioral propensities also evolved as fitness indicators, according to the principles of cost-signaling. These mental fitness indicators include some of our capacities for intelligence, creative intelligence (with particular value in innovative problem solving), status-seeking, language, conspicuous altruism and conspicuous consumption. In other words, these traits are found to have provisioning and/or reproductive value based on environment and personal conditions. Thus in an environment flush with artists and creative types, the investment banker may be preferable for provisioning, or vice versa.

This argument can only be made for human reproduction as a species in general. These choices, or preferences you allude to really aren’t “choices” per se, similar to those we make we when choose pizza or hamburgers for dinner. They merely seem to act as choices. They are more appropriately thought of as generalized results of various environmental filters over thousands of years. This is a key idea of evolution that most people miss. There actually isn’t any choice at all. The way we are now is just what’s left over.

It is self evident that anything outside the range of acceptable fitness factors for reproduction has already been filtered out of the gene pool hundreds of thousands of years ago. (unless we are talking random mutations, like X-men)

These two realms of consideration account in large part for female sexual selection and arousal. Want to know why that HB 9 keeps going back to the unemployed musician in preference to hooking up with you, the successful business owner? A.) He meets her physical arousal standards and B.) She values creative intelligence on some level of consciousness.

Disagree. What she feels on a deep level of consciousness is the fact that this dude has the capacity to be successful regardless of his chosen profession. If he were a hot sexy starving artist who was supremely talented, but was content to forever do art for free in the park, she wouldn’t give him the time of day. It is the drive above all that she is attracted to. She’ll always choose the guy with the drive over the guy with the six pack abs. The reason it looks as though the six pack abs guys have such a big impact on the dating game, is that sadly, few males have the drive today to wet a woman’s panties. Wishes? Yes. Hopes? Yes. Some kind of desire? Sure. But not drive. Maybe that’s why women are so pissed of today, but that’s another topic.

Now why she chose the artist over the banker? Could be many reasons. Self esteem issues? Many who’ve studied the subject believe that girls have a need to “get in on the ground floor” so to speak. Other’s have argued that familial resemblance plays a part. Availability? Bankers work long hours, and maybe the guys got no game whatsoever. Or he’s just content to bang hookers when he feels the need.

She might value creative intelligence, but only if the creative intelligence is pointed at creatively finding ways to be successful and create a positive future for himself, and by for his wife and family by default.

However, that said, a male cannot rely entirely upon a single individual realm. One costs what the other sacrifices. Superior provisioning ability comes with a price - usually the sacrifice of physical development of other attributes - in order to achieve it. Superior physical development may come at the cost of social intelligence.

These realms you speak of are actually automatic results from having a strong drive to succeed in such a way that resources follow. That strong drive, coupled with an healthy, honest sense of self worth and self confidence is really all you need.

 

[STR8UP]

Many men derive their bulk of self confidence from keeping in physical shape, it’s the confidence however that attracts the women, not the physical body. Most agree that since it happens at an unconscious level, it appears as though she is attracted to the six pack abs.

I've been saying this for awhile now.....women are attracted to the core traits that allow a man to achieve, moreso than achievement itself, due to the fact that it is much easier to fake the end result sometimes than it is to fake the traits inherent to a man who has potential.

You are missing the point with the six pack analogy though.

There are two sides of the attraction coin for women. Physical, and other. The man with the six pack has the good genes she is looking for and it has nothing to do with confidence, etc. It's the age old "stock broker husband, pool boy lover" thing, where women are seeking to complete their biological needs from two different sources.

If he were a hot sexy starving artist who was supremely talented, but was content to forever do art for free in the park, she wouldn’t give him the time of day. It is the drive above all that she is attracted to.

Again, you fail to factor in the duality of female attraction. Women want a man who basically does not exist, so they swing branches, cheat, etc. to try to fulfill their "needs".

The problem is most people are so ****ing backward the idea and concept of career is so important to them they toil away aiming for that upper middle class existence. When they get there they realise their quality of life has not improved simply because their standard of living improved. They blame the pursuit of money for that. They think they have money yet they are still unhappy.

You can always tell a person who has never had money and never thinks they will have money by their attitude toward it.

It's kind of like a an older woman shaming a man for dating younger women. It's the poor people shaming those who have wealth. in a way.

If you don't understand the way money works and the effects it really has on people, you automatically defer to the "default" responses such as "Money can't buy happiness" and "Money is the root of all evil" and "The pursuit of money is a bad thing".

All of this is complete and utter BS, but it;s all perpetuated by the poor and middle class becuase they don't know better and never will.

 

[lookyoung]

Upper middle class? Thats not money mate and you are totally missing the point. Middle class is AVERAGE. Middle class is not HIGH STATUS. Upper middle class means your folks are still wage slaves. Thats not money.

If you think a person who battles to put food on the table is going to be happy then you have a pretty ****ed up view of the world. Never had to struggle eh? I tell you right now working 16 hour days just to eat is not anyones definition of happiness.

People think that money makes them unhappy because they work long hours for it and neglect their families and interests because of it. Its the work that makes them unhappy, NOT THE MONEY. They would give up material assets if it means more time to pursue things they enjoy.

When you are making a lot of money and enjoy your line of work, your work/life balance hits parity.

The problem is most people are so ****ing backward the idea and concept of career is so important to them they toil away aiming for that upper middle class existence. When they get there they realise their quality of life has not improved simply because their standard of living improved. They blame the pursuit of money for that. They think they have money yet they are still unhappy.

I agree with what your saying. There is a big difference to someone who is filthy rich than someone who has 50,000 million dollars. But think about Donald trumps kids, Or paris hiltion, or Hefners kids. I could probably get some kids who worked hard and grew up on a farm and they are happier than these people. Why is that? because happiness comes from within if you don't love yourself than no amount of money in the world can make you happy.

 

[SoCalMike]

I agree with what your saying. There is a big difference to someone who is filthy rich than someone who has 50,000 million dollars. But think about Donald trumps kids, Or paris hiltion, or Hefners kids. I could probably get some kids who worked hard and grew up on a farm and they are happier than these people. Why is that? because happiness comes from within if you don't love yourself than no amount of money in the world can make you happy.

First, I disagree that Paris Hilton isn't happy. She's got basically no stress in her life.

Second, even if she were "unhappy", that would only be because she is spoiled and does not know what it truly means to struggle and suffer.

And finally, for anyone who has lived below the filthy rich level, like 99% of the world, then suddenly having massive amounts of money WOULD make you happy. And by 'happy' I mean have little or no stress. Even if you were butt ugly you could buy the highest quality pvssy out there (expensive wh0res) and bang them every night because you could afford it. Many women would let you bang them just for the potential to marry your rich ass too.

Even if you were a drug addict or alcoholic, vast amounts of money could potentially save you from your habit, because you may have turned to drugs or alcohol for reasons that were rooted in money in the first place (e.g. wife left you for a richer guy so you started drinking).

Money may not buy everyone happiness, but it sure as HELL would buy me happiness, and about 99% of the rest of the world.