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Obsidian said:
yeah, potato makes some decent points -- for an atheistic liberal

Game does create attraction. It's just not natural attraction, and you can't come up with anything lasting and meaningful from it.

But I do think looks (as in genetic, pretty-boy looks) are really down pretty low on the list of things women go for. Mucles can help you a bit more, but even those aren't all that crucial, imo
Great. Let's keep this up. First looks. Now you've made a political remark. Now if we can discuss race. Does being White give you an advantage over us Mexicans, or the blacks or asians?

Game is mostly attitude, and believe me, your attitude will dertermine and in most times, dictate how much "natural" attraction you create and spark in women.
 

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Looks are not the deal breaker, it does not matter if you look good or bad in the long run. The point is, good looks will let you get that foot in the door to make that sale, and let's face it, nobody will open the door to a bad smelling guy with newspaper wrapped around his feet instead of shoes.

I personally know 2 naturals, both very well. One of them actually only needs a ride to the club, cause he knows he will find somebody to take him home, he knows every second woman in town by name and the others come to him and introduce their friends. We went out together, sat down by the door because there is a cool draft the keeps smoke away and lots of women came to greet him and get kissed on the cheek and get their asses grabbed. He is currently studying facility management (which is something like a janitor with a degree) in a university town. He lives in a dorm. He does not own a car because he crashed his last one. He eats rice and noodles because he parties away his money. He drinks like crazy. He'll drink one and a half quarts of rum mixed with coke in one evening. He had the prom queen (or the girl that most voted best looking and ice queen of our year, we don't have proms over here) as a girlfriend and he lost her after a while. WHY? Because he had nothing going for him except one thing .... he has a great sense of humor, wears really good looking clothes that subtly show off his body and ... he was voted best-looking.

Now the lesson, I believe I learned from my friend here is that good looks get you in the door, but you can't make the sale in the long run, so far he has lost every woman and oftentimes has hurt himself emotionally in the process.

Another of my firiends was the über-achiever. Student Body President for two consecutive years, best grades, sports, awards at graduation, you name it... he's got it. He got voted good-looking, but not by a long way as #1.He's a good catch for any woman, studies at the most prestigious med school in my country, his dad is a dentist, goes on vacation twice a year (as a student) etc etc etc.... His first gf got caught kissing 3 other guys (we saw this on camera later) and everybody knew except him and his friends, including me. His second kept him until finals to study with, remember he's such a good student, he wrote her papers etc etc etc. She left him the day after finals.Lesson: He was an AFC at heart, and no amount of sh1t he could offer a woman could make it up.

All in all, I refuse to believe that good looks are the deal breaker. They will be part of the package, but not the main component. If that were so, very few people here could get chicks. It has been said often that women look at the entire package. They look at sex as part of the pack, looks, money, power, humor, the feelings you generate, the way you walk, can you decide stuff for them, can you handle your life, do you like their friends. I believe you can compensate for the other of you lack one.

One other thing I would like to say: I think 80-90% of seduction material the average joe needs to keep him occupied for months on end is already listed in the posts of Pook and Fingz and all the others. Much of the other stuff I've read here only refines and applies their principles to concrete situations and gives emergency help to guys who have lost it. Remember that some of the men here come while during divorce process, suicidal thoughts, depression, hurt feelings. These threads and posts are necessary. I found this site myself during a bad time, and it has helped me. I am still far away, but I will get there. The others however, are all short lived threads because in like 3 months, who the fvck will care if a chick turned you down? (see threads with help, confused, advice, older chicks, wtf in the title if you don't know what I mean)

Fact is, there is one thing that SS has going for it: essentially, it does not teach pickup. It teaches how to improve yourself, get that sh1t together and lastly how to get women attracted to you. That's it. If there is anything to be learned here, is that every man can live to his maximum masculinity and success if he is willing to work for it. Now notice I said "to his maximum"!. Every guy here is going to end at another level, because every guy here ultimately will want something else. Some guys here don't feel comfortable spinning plates. Others want kids, others don't, etc etc etc.

Don't focus on what you do not have, don't focus on what you have either. Focus on what you can and want to make out of the stuff you already have.
 
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