MM forum AFC burnout

[MacAvoy]

I think we are starting to suffer from AFC burnout. It's like we've heard so many AFC stories from guys like Thugo that don't listen, that we've given up on giving real advice.


Matters of the heart..... thread

So go ahead and tell her how you feel, you'll see where it will lead you. Ya I feel ya buddy. She's a keeper? You wanna be at "peace" with yourself? Go ahead tell her and then come back here but don't cry all over the forum

Oneitis from Hell thread

Call her and profess your undying love for her. Its the only way you will know if she will feel the same way or not. Otherwise your going to spend the next 50 years wondering about "the one".

Fvcking call her already.

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I can't keep calling her.


Why the hell not? Keep calling until you get her on the goddam phone.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

LOL.

Yeah Mac,



It's like we're a bunch of old soldiers---V@gina Veterans. We've seen so much action on our tours of duty that some of us seem to be losing our compassion. Some of us might be running the risk of letting all of our old battle scars erase our memory.

It would do us all a world of good to always remember what it was like before we too first realized that women were not all "sweetness and light". They can sometimes behave like our enemy, hence the need for us to deploy our DJ tactics on the dating battlefield. LOL

However, in all fairness, a lot of the repetitious whining about questions that the experienced DJs have ALREADY answered for the AFC-types can grate on your nerves. So I will say that once the "WTF?" threshold has been reached---a little TOUGH love does have it's place.

But I too have noticed, that if some of us don't watch out, we might all be forced to attend an AFC Sensitivity Training class.



Peace...one day.

 

[legolas]

:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

 

[thesynergist]

Hell man. TOUGH love is what this place is all about. Sometimes it takes a little bit of mean to shock people out of their habits. I spent my whole life thinking about HB's one way, then got burned a few times, lucked out and got HERE, and then got shocked into realizing that most of my beliefs on how to interact with women were sorely unrealistic and dangerous to my chances of success. TOUGH is good. TOUGH is truth. TOUGH is the only way to get through the AFC forcefield so you can help men beat the little b@stard into submission.

 

[WestCoaster]

The reason for the tough love ...

... at least from my viewpoint is because I've been there/done that with the same AFC results.

I've professed love -- got stepped on.

Had oneitis -- worst feeling in the world.

Obsessed, called, dreamed, pined for women -- complete waste of energy that got me nowhere.

And I've DJed, been C & F, been elusive, and the biggie -- was seen with other women -- and it worked like a charm.

After awhile, you go back to what works and you sure as hell know what doesn't work.

We're not shooting from the hip here -- at least I'm not -- I was such an AFC years ago it would make you freaking puke. I still almost puke thinking about it, and have even succumbed to oneitis twice in the last five years: it's not fun at all.

We're saying these things because we've been there.

 

[Mantra]

You guys want to get somewhere else going that's more fun, challenging and afc free? Join the new forum that a DJ group I'm a part of has set up.
http://www.seductioneurope.org/forum/

There's not so much happening there yet, so it needs more posters, but it is at the moment completely AFC free.

 

[Macgyver]

Although logically the advice may work, it's always easier said than done.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Troops,



I've found that people don't really change until they are receiving the backhanded side of the law of diminishing returns. They've got to reach the point where they realize it's MORE painful to stat an AFC than it is to learn how to walk the path of the Don Juan.

In other words, they're like that dog that's always whining while lying on top of a nail in the floor. Old Duke won't "git" up off of it yet because it's not hurting him ENOUGH...lol.

 

[Desdinova]

TOUGH love is what this place is all about.

It's always been what this place is all about. I remember my first verbal slapping when I first came here back in '01. It's one of those things that'll either make you want to improve, or make you go away crying like a little b1tch.

 

[Vulpine]

We are getting suckered by trolls.

Re-read this. I've fixed it because we missed the obvious. Guys talk like guys, women talk like women. You can't escape how you speak, think, or feel. Maybe it's all in my head, but I have learned to trust my gut. This poster thinks, "speaks", and feels like a woman. Read it again, this time as if a woman posted it - makes a million times more sense.

I've highlighted in red the grammar of a 15 year old. I stuck to the common usage errors, spelling mistakes, and overall vocabulary of a highschool boy. I can't easily highlight run-on sentences, missing/incorrect puntuation, or just plain bad English. I really had to give up: my head was going to explode. I say early teens, not early 20's as the poster claims. To further proove the troll claim, she openly boasts to be in the wrong forum.

I've highlighted in blue the biggest indicators that the poster is a woman - this stuff just isn't in a man's vocabulary - AFC or not. Men flat-out don't say these things or have these thoughts. Indeed, these are a woman's concepts, ideas, and verbage.

Take your pick: woman troll, or, ADHD 15 y.o. troll...

So many things I want to say, yet so little words to put all my thouhgts into a coherent sentance...Hopefully some people with past experiances can guide me on what to do next...

Let me start off by saying this... Here's the thing I am in my early 20's and all my life I've had alot of guy-"friends". Who were just that, friends, guys who I just hung out with for fun, had no feelings for, never gave them anything more then a peck on the cheek as we said goodbye or a friendly hug.

I've done alot of dating but I cannot honestly say that I've ever been in any type of serious girlfriend/boyfriend romantic relationship, although I've had alot of opportunities to do so in the past but the guys that usually had a "high interest level" in me, I didn't about them or vice versa, the guys I liked, didn't like me back.

And I never really wanted to waste my time with a guy I felt nothing for, you know?

Anyways, about a month or so ago I finally met my "dream guy". It's very difficult to try to list all of his characteristics that made him appeal to me, because it's impossible to describe on paper, needless to say, he is the one guy that gave me "That feeling" where you just "Know" you want to be with that person.

I made sure I played all my cards right with him because I knew that he was a keeper. I've surfed this site for quite some time, read "Chicken soup for the Soul" as well as posts by Pooks and Cosmopolitain etc...

All this to say; looking back on my past dating experiances, I learned that I used to do alot of Barbie garbage. This time, I made sure I didn't do any of it with him. I was armed to the teeth with new knowledge on what and not to do.

It worked. We've been steadily dating for about a month now and everything is going great I would think. We also kiss, hug and cuddle everytime were together. So, he's basically my first real romantic "boy-friend"

As sweet as he is though, he is also a very insecure and self-conscious guy with a very low self-esteem who's always putting himself down on many lvl's, such as his physical looks, his talents etc.

As a girl, it's hard for me to hear alot of these things sometimes, which I know are simply not true. I always try to be there for him and make him feel better and special (which he is) or comfort him in some way, when he starts going all "AFC" on me, so to speak.

Anyways, the truth is, I care very much for this guy, more-so then I ever did for anyone in my life. Sometimes I was even a lady, and I know that a true DJ isn't supposed to be a woman, but if any of you have ever seen the movie "Hitch" I feel exactly like Will Smith did when he says "When I'm around her, I just can't seem to get my stuff right"

Even though I know all the rules, read all the articles, posts etc. It's completly diffrent when your actually with the men you love.

I guess my question is the following. I want to let him know how I feel about him. I really haven't ever told him how much of an important aspect he is in my life.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't want to go all carebearness mode on him. But I want to get rid of all these feelings which are bottlenecked up inside me, and I haven't told him anything out of fear of pushing him away and being overbearing.

I know that "the-game" requires us women to be "femanine" so to speak and not reveal any of or "motives" or do anything remotely drama-queen style, if we wish to keep the men were with, so that they don't lose interest. But I really need to be at peace with myself, which right now I'm not.

Sometimes he says things to me about himself and about us and I can't help in my mind but think "If you only knew".

Any suggestions, toughts?

This kid should be paying attention in English class, not jacking around on here.

We are getting burned out by trolls, not AFC's. While reading this post, I felt like I was sitting at a table on "girls night out" listening to one of my girlfriends ramble on about her emotional turmoil. I felt like I needed a shower. I would imagine that the troll went to a woman's forum and cut and paste a woman's post here. Then, did just what I did: changed the gender. I just changed it back to it's original form.

Look at the poster's names lately: FMNG, Thugo, ASDF.... Whoever is setting up these new accounts isn't even trying when it comes to the picking a name part. "Man dude", "RIPPED", "Rowdiboi", are you kidding me? Anyone that is for real has a real identity: "Three Olives", "ReadDragon", "58 Sauce", "Pvt. Pulverizer", "Chop-O-Matic", "Ejaculator 2000". You get the idea.

"lvl's" is my favorite. It's faster to type levels than it is to type lvl's. Silly.