Mixed signals, oneitis...

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Need help. I have a mild case of oneitis for this girl. It is weird how you can go from thinking a girl is 'just ok' to being really hot for her. Luckily, I have learned to recognize when I am starting to get oneitis for a girl - and I am able to stop myself from doing anything (late night phone call, interrogating her 'where we stand', stupid crap like that) that would totally ruin it. So far, I have been playing it relatively cool. I keep reminding myself that she is not all that anyway, and that as a DJ I have the ability to manifest someone just like her if I want to, possibly someone better, whenever I go out sarging.

Met this girl at a club 1.5 months ago. We have gone out a few times, we were together over NYE. On our first date we went out to eat and had a drink at a bar. On our date I found out that it was actually her birthday, so I was 'her birthday present' in her words. We didn't kiss except on the cheek.

I asked her out the next week. I told her to come over to my house and I'd make her dinner. She flaked out on me at the last minute. I decided I was through with her and didn't contact her for more than a week. Then she started emailing and texting me again. We went out on our second date, we saw a movie together and it was a really fun night. We finally kissed on the lips and snuggled on the couch a little bit.

Over X-mas she was texting me and calling me all day.

The next night I went over to her house and we hung out. I met her mom and her daughter - she's a single mom, she is 30. I'm 33. Last night when we were alone I tried to kiss her a number of times but she seemed cold. She didn't want to do any making out or anything. I think it was because her mom and her daughter were in the house at the same time.

So I ask her to hang out with me on New Years. We go out to a fancy club with friends from my work. She looked really good and a lot of guys at the club were hitting on her, especially as it got closer to midnight. I would turn around when I look back she'd be surrounded by like 4 guys trying to talk to her. One guy bought her a rose and I got jealous and kind of got in his face. She gave me a disapproving look when I got into it with this guy - so for the rest of the night I had to sit back and play it cool when guys would try to hit on her. She would always tell them - 'I'm with him' and point to me - it was weird having to deal with this though.

We make out that night at the club and she asks me if she can sleep over at my place. Laying in bed that night she told me I was overprotective and controlling because of what she perceived as my jealous nature - despite the fact that I played it cool for the great majority of the night while guys hit on her. People have a very selective memory and only remember what they want to remember once they think they know you. This is very ironic that she called me 'controlling' and 'that I try to tell her what to do' - when earlier in the day she told me that 'the best relationships are when the woman is in control. I responded that my parents had been together for close to 40 years and my dad is in control. She told me that a lot of times it looks like the man is in charge when actually the woman is controlling the relationship behind closed doors. So she is accusing me of being controlling and yet she tells me that it is her desire to be the one in control of the relationship. She was joking when she told me this, but still she believes it.

On our second date she told me she dated this guy last year but broke up with him because he was 'too sweet' - she described it like 'you know when you eat too much chocolate, you don't want to eat it after a while'. Well, that night when we were laying in bed she said I was 'too sweet'. Great. So now I feel like I need to lay off and not call her for a while. I am very frustrated because I know what it is like when people are clingy in relationships and I honestly do not feel like I am being clingy around this girl - but she sees me this way. I don't know what I did to give off this impression.

But then we started grinding and going at it in bed, I didn't full close but I did everything else. When we woke up in the morning we were both hung over as hell, and she was back to being sort of cold to me. So I've been dating this girl for more than a month and have gone almost all the way - but most of the time she is cold to me. When I dropped her off at her place I tried to make out with her again, but she stopped me and told me to 'relax'. Then she told me she'd call me, it has been a week and she hasn't called.

I am waiting to see how long it will take her to call. I don't plan to call her. I have been going out with my friends and working a lot. I don't know if I did anything to spoil it, or if she is testing me to see if I will crack and do something stupid like call and interrogate her about 'where we stand'. I'm not going to do that. Or maybe she is seeing someone else, I know she works with her ex boyfriend and that he texted her on New Years Day. He was an ******* to her from what I hear, which means she probably still likes him.

I need to detach myself from what is going to happen with this girl. I am a little annoyed that she labelled me as 'too nice' and 'controlling/jealous'. That is not me. I may have handled one situation that night badly but then the rest of the night when guys hit on her I was cool about it. But there's no way I can call her up and explain it to her. I have to show her by appearing not to care. I don't care that much, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't care at all. I'd like to get your opinions on what's going on with this girl, and why she is so hot/cold with me. I feel like I am doing the right thing by not calling her but it is a little difficult.
 

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Seems to me like shes testing to see how much power she has over you. The excessive flirting and stuff with the guys at the new years party was just to see how you would act in a competitive social situation with her, and it seems to me that you got a bit jealous and moody (sitting at the side of the room by yourself). That probably knocked you down a couple of rungs on the power ladder.

I personally know that if I ever start to feel jealous (like the time I was out with this girl who was letting some guy rub her leg in front of me) or if I start to feel confused about "where we stand", that more often than not, she's playing some sort of power game with me. Flirting with other guys in front of you is almost certainly a test

All that pillow talk and her telling you that she wants to be in control -- she's not just joking. She wants to wear the pants in the relationship. Maybe she thinks something like "mother knows best" because she has a kid. Who knows?

Seems like the only thing you can do is test her back. Next time you see her (and if it were me, I'd wait tell she calls, not call her like a supplicating pud), be more domineering the next time you see her and see how she responds. Go with you gut, and if you think she's playing you, walk away with your dignity.
 

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Gentlemen--

She texted me today for the first time - 'what's new?'

what is my next move? i want to sex her.
 
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She went out with you on her birthday means that there is no other dude over you - you are in the clear as long as you act like a man and take the lead!! Only text/talk to her to set up a an activity!!
 

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Hunter, I would lay off it. As far as her texting you I would just text her back everything is great. Remember Hunter you are the prize. Never kiss these girls asses. She already said you were jealous, too nice... Come on... Punish her. Don't call her back for a while.


When you do talk to her show her u mean business. Be aggressive go for the fvck close. If you don't fvck her than just get over this girl, and move on to other girls. It is not worth it bro.


I really hope u tag this girl. GOOD LUCK BRO:up:
 

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Yeah good luck dude, let us know what happens either way.
 

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lookyoung said:
Hunter, I would lay off it. As far as her texting you I would just text her back everything is great. Remember Hunter you are the prize. Never kiss these girls asses. She already said you were jealous, too nice... Come on... Punish her. Don't call her back for a while.


When you do talk to her show her u mean business. Be aggressive go for the fvck close. If you don't fvck her than just get over this girl, and move on to other girls. It is not worth it bro.


I really hope u tag this girl. GOOD LUCK BRO:up:

Yeah dude.
I was slipping into AFC because this girl is good in bed, but now she has me pissed. For a minute there I was thinking maybe I will make her my gf - now I don't care. All I want to do is use her for sex. And now I am going to be hardcore and play her tight - I am not going to call her, punish her, let her know I'm dating others. Just to get her more excited - then I will take her back just to sex her. She was the one who started the games, and now I am going to give it right back to her.
 

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agreed time to set some standards. and go with your instincts
 

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First of all this chick is NOT LTR material, she sucks!! She's controlling, moody and whiny, obviously this isn't good. As you continue your dating journey and your game evolves, you'll start to realize that with some chicks it doesn't really matter what you do, they'll find faults in your actions.

I will agree with her on one thing. Your definitely too much of a nice guy. You tolerate her ****ty behavior. This lets her get away with murder while criticizing your behaviors.

If the relationship is already running into road blocks this early, its a very clear indicator that things will get much worse down the road.

If your goal here is simply to fuvk her now, then give her a harsh dose of her own medicine. Don't reply to her text for at least 2-3 days. Be as short and to the point as possible. If she calls, don't answer, call back hours later. This will do one of two things. She'll either lose interest and stop contacting you (in which case you really haven't lost anything) or her interest level will triple in a short period of time because she can't control you anymore. This will result in lots of sex being thrown your way, just so she can feel like she still has some control over you.

However don't get too involved in this or your mild one-itis will turn into the bird-flu.




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i'm sorta following that plan. i just responded with 'hey whats up'. then she responded with a long message about what shes been up to. and then i didn't respond. i'm not planning on texting her back, but i'll respond if she texts again, with a short casual sounding text message. i don't plan on calling her until she calls me first, and i don't plan on taking her out on any more dates. when she calls, i'll just tell her to come over, then fukk her.
 

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when she calls, i'll just tell her to come over, then fukk her.
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Good idea hunter. Invite her over don't take her out. Hey let us know if you fvck her. Hey bro I like your attitude. Fair is Fair hunter. If she wants to play than show her you could play, but you play harder. My attitude is this I respect woman, and am nice to them. But if they want to act like bithes and slvts than I will treat them like that.....

Hit that pvssy hunter
 

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so...

i ignored her last text message. the 'ignoring her' routine seems to be working, because today she texts me

'george (her ex) and lindsey (her friend) are going out together after work (they all work together). i am shocked. i never expected this. i need a drink'

should i keep punishing her or text her back? sounds like she just needs a shoulder to cry on since her ex is getting with her friend. on the other hand, if she is going to be f0cking another dude to get back at her ex, i'd like to be that dude.
 
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invite her over for a drink :rockon:

That way, you'll have logistics taken care of. Have a few drinks and ye should be good to go.
 

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i don't know if i have punished her long enough. i also don't know how i feel about being the 'rebound guy', i mean it is obvious she still has feelings for her ex if him going out w her friend affects her like this.

on the other hand, she is very vulnerable right now, and i could probably sexx her.
 

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First of all, calm down. This is a game. Dating and relationships are games and should be treated as such.

Second you can and probobly should of had sex with this woman some time ago. Her being a single mom is not an accident. She probobly wants to have sex with you just as much as you want to with her. You're kind of playing it right buy not calling her all the time and debating on texting her. You can however communicate and have that aloof/not caring atmosphere to you if you space out your contact according to her response. This is where your main problem is. You're not reading the signs and gauging the contact levels correctly. Focus on that and you'll be in her pants inside of two weeks.
 

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Give her the gift of missing you...

da_hunter said:
so...

i ignored her last text message. the 'ignoring her' routine seems to be working, because today she texts me

FIRST OF ALL - you seem to be doing too much BECAUSE of her - do your **** first... NEXT, she's using drama on you...DO NOT REWARD DRAMA...WTF, are you her girlfriend-therapist --NO-- you are the guy who phuks her...and as far as LTR even being a consideration with women with kids DUDE ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?!?!

'george (her ex) and lindsey (her friend) are going out together after work (they all work together). i am shocked. i never expected this. i need a drink'

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAAAA

should i keep punishing her or text her back? sounds like she just needs a shoulder to cry on since her ex is getting with her friend.

YOU ARE NOT HER THERAPIST - if she calls you and says ANYHTING about this...tell her, "Hey, this sounds like a girlfriend discussion - call <X> and talk with her about it..., but if you want to hang-out and have some fun I'm doing <Z>...you can tag along if you want."

on the other hand, if she is going to be f0cking another dude to get back at her ex, i'd like to be that dude.

You think too much...who cares who single mommy is phuking...you shouldn't be concerned about it...go and get some other plates spinning...your distraction WILL be noted by her - as is your attention...
~ WildCard ~

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WildCard is an idiot. Get the hell out of my thread, I don't listen to morons.
 

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Just tell her you'll call her a certain time, then don't. Don't be available to her. If she starts talking about her problems, don't give advice. Just tell her you're in the middle of something and you'll call her back later. Then don't.

I know it's easier said than done sometimes, but just put her on the backburner. She hasn't earned or deserved your attention. Just start chatting up a lot of girls, not with the intent to ask them out or anything. It'll help take your mind off her and reduce the effects of oneitis.
 

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Yeah I've been going out a lot with my friends, we went to a club last night and I sarged a bunch of chicks. I didn't # close last night though. I have a couple of girls from the online personals that I'm talking to right now that I might go out with.

Last night when me and my friend were at the club she called me and said 'hey how come you don't call me?' I said 'well, you have my number'. After talking a little while, she said she had to go but to call her later on if I want. So I could have did a late night booty call if I wanted, but I didn't. I stayed late at the club and got drunk.
 

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Well, this ended horribly. I got LJBF'd. It was pretty brutal. I guess I should have expected that I would have problems with the first decent girl I wind up dating, I have a lot of practice in approaching but not with this part of 'the game'. It's weird how surprised I am whenever I get screwed over by this girl, since every time I feel like I am doing ok with her.

What happened was she called me over the weekend. She was like 'you never call me' and I said 'you have my number'. She said 'you can call me if you want' on Friday, thinking I would call her. I never did.

She texted me on Sunday about the Bears game.

Then Tuesday I call her. I say, 'you wanna come over?'. She says she has plans. I say, 'ok I'll talk to you later'. She says 'what about tomorrow?' I say 'You wanna come over tomorrow?' She says 'you can come over to my place'.

So I go over to her place. I bring over margaritas and a DVD. We sit on the couch and watch the DVD with her daughter, and drink margaritas. Then I show her how to encode mp3's in iTunes on the computer. It is getting late and she has to put her daughter to bed so I leave. On my way out, I go in for a kiss and get the heissman trophy. I was in shock. I honestly thought I was doing well that night.

On the way home in the car I decide to call her and ask her wtf is going on, probably a bad move. At the time I felt like I just wanted to know what I did wrong. I honestly felt like I had a good night, and I didn't really make a move because her daughter was there.

She tells me she doesn't want to rush into anything, and I guess by 'rushing into anything' she means kissing. Even after we screwed around on NYE. She tells me that I am a completely different person on the phone than I am in person, and that after giving me a few chances, she feels like we are not compatible. She tells me that we communicate fine on the phone but in person I am very quiet and shy and it makes her uncomfortable. I don't know how to respond to this other than 'it's not true, you're not giving me a chance, you don't even know me etc.' So it sounds like she has made up her mind. I made things worse for myself by calling back a few times last night - I was in such a state of shock that I actually tried to argue with her about this. She tells me to go to sleep and we'll talk about it tomorrow.

So that's it. I'm at least glad that I won't have oneitis anymore.
 
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