Misogynistic viewpoints.

[The Deacon]

Whenever I read this site, I can't help but think you guys are a little bitter about being kicked to the curb about women. Some of you are bitter and successful with women, some of you are bitter and pretending to be successful with women. I won't mention any names, but you guys know who you are. This has got to stop. You guys are really starting to scare me.

I mean, I can understand your frustrations with the fairer sex. I'm sure some of you are familiar with www.menarebetterthanwomen.com
Most of it is misogynistic garbage. This one paragraph he wrote is pure gold. This is a quote from his article Ten Reasons Why Men Are Better Than Women:

Marriage is 100% the fault of women. It was invented by men though! Did you know that? Marriage was invented because women were too busy whoring it out to **** the only the guy who was paying their rent and feeding their fat asses French bon-bons every day. Men invented marriage as a way of telling women who they could and couldn’t fvck. Like everything else men have ever invented, it completely worked and worked way better than any man thought it would. Women became so indoctrinated by the man-invention of marriage that they’re fvcking obsessed with it.

Marriage is still stupid. It’s a stupid game invented to entertain stupid minds and to teach basic lessons of fidelity that even invertebrates are born with.

I don't think marriage is that stupid, but I do think that this provides some insight on where the origins of marriage came from. Women have the tendency to crowd a smaller number of men rather than just stick onto one single man. One lion will fvck all the female lions in his pack while the others remain celibate. It's an innate social mechanism.

When I think of it that way I can understand where your bitterness comes from. Some women only stick onto a man that is worth something, and once the man's social value drops they're going to kick him to the curb. Some girls will be 22 years old and still possess the same stupid "high school popular girl" mentality. They only date guys for the image that it brings, and they will put up with abuse just to keep that image. Those girls, my friends, are fvcking morons. All that bitterness aside, I'm not gonna label all women to be like those morons. I apologize if I'm sounding pious right now.

I do not say this as an AFC though. I say this as a clear-thinking, forgiving human being: Women are not all like this. There are great women out there that deserve to be treasured. I've met women like that. Some of you need to ditch this bitterness cause it'll make you a happier person. And when you're happier, you're a much more attractive person too. I'm all about this DJ stuff, like working on yourself and not falling in love with a girl after you first meet her, but just remember to keep it in moderation.

:uts up flame shield::

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Do you find it at all interesting that we have such an easy, convenient term like "misogyny" that's so readily applicable and easily understandable (even by 19 y.o. guys) in our popular consciousness? You didn't have to write an essay on it in high school to understand what you believe it means or how it ought to be applied, but here you are applying it. I'm not questioning your opinion, I'm only questioning how you came to it. Who taught you what misogyny is? Do you remember when you first heard the term used? Who was using it and in what context?

You're a clear-thinking, forgiving human being, does this clear-thinking extend to being open to the idea that maybe you've been misled?

 

[Sir I]

assumptions assumptions assumptions. it's about the way you deal with situations, here you can catch some information on how others dealth with situations you might find similar it does not mean being a jerk and acting disrespectfull towards women.

I don't have problem with someone who sais a woman is inferior to a man. I also do not have a problem with someone who sais a woman is superior to a man. it's their opinion. their opionion is personall and even if it is wrong it is not your or mine place to MAKE THEM change their mind.

you are saying that there are wonderfull women out there and yet you are allso saying there are morons out ther.. EUREKA! HALLELUJA! the point is not to judge people that's the entire point of the concept, you live your own life and you make choices depending on what gets you where.

it never has anything to do with being better or worst than another, it only happens because people have a need to categorize and make a list of more valuable less valuable. .it's life.

those who go around humiliating others to feel good themselves are just blind of the truth and still caught in the matrix. those who worry about the opinions of others are still caught in the matrix. those who write something with an expectation of being flamed are also still caught in the matrix.

my question to you, Why is it your problem that mister X you have never seen writes crap on the internet about women? and how does this affect your personall life ?

 

[Warrior74]

Some people have reasons to feel bitter, some because of their own actions, and some because of the actions of others. Some people's bitterness lead them to this site to try to understand what happened to them. I think as long as you try to grow as a man and a person and a spiritual being (don't get all religious on me) you will grow past the bitterness. There are all sorts of women in this game. Mainly good girls, freaks and hoes. Most of the guys on here have been dealing with freaks and hoes and didn't know. Good girls are hard to find but worth it if you can find one.

 

[ready123]

but some peoples bitterness will last a lifetime because their reality is so damn negative when it comes to women. look at that jackprescott dude. he says his game is perfect and when girls flake on him it's because they're btches out to get him, not because he did something wrong. every rejection he takes personally because he's got entitlement issues. that's not a very balanced reality, is it

when you get good at this stuff, you learn to appreciate why women have these wierd autopilot responses. you go from being frustrated to realizing all that behavior has a purpose. and once you understand it, it becomes amusing, not something to get pissed at

simple minds polarize people into labels because they're mentally lazy and don't wnana put in the work to gain a balanced reality. then you get dumbed down models like nice guy / jerk, coalition of the willing/evil-doers, all women are btches, etc. reality is much more complex

 

[DonGorgon]

Excessive competition leads to frustration which leads to anger which leads to hate....

I dont think many men hate women per say but many men hate the amount of power women have to put then through SH!T.

 

[LeComteDeMonteCristo]

You speak wisdom beyond your years.

I hope to see more respect for women on these boards. Not special treatment, just some common respect.

Bitterness and misogyny coming from some of the older cats is to be expected but what I find a little sad is when the youngsters look up to and copy them.

If nothing else it creates an atmosphere of negativity on here which I don't believe is conducive to success.

 

[DonGorgon]

You speak wisdom beyond your years.

I hope to see more respect for women on these boards. Not special treatment, just some common respect.

Bitterness and misogyny coming from some of the older cats is to be expected but what I find a little sad is when the youngsters look up to and copy them.

If nothing else it creates an atmosphere of negativity on here which I don't believe is conducive to success.

Frustration... hopelessness and loneliness

 

[Jitterbug]

A wise man once told me: "Don't hate women. It's a complete waste of time."

 

[reset]

Women like guys who are wise to the world. They can sense it. If a check is messing with you and she knows that you know, and won't play, it turns her on. Of course, now she's turned on, but you're a little annoyed.

I guess that's misogynistic.

 

[LeComteDeMonteCristo]

Women like guys who are wise to the world. They can sense it. If a check is messing with you and she knows that you know, and won't play, it turns her on. Of course, now she's turned on, but you're a little annoyed.

I guess that's misogynistic.

It isn't.

 

[reset]

Damn. Oops said check. Meant chick.

Well at the least I'm a chauvenist.

 

[The Deacon]

You're a clear-thinking, forgiving human being, does this clear-thinking extend to being open to the idea that maybe you've been misled?

With all due respect, Tomassi, I'm open to that suggestion.

my question to you, Why is it your problem that mister X you have never seen writes crap on the internet about women? and how does this affect your personall life ?

It's my problem because I don't want people coming onto SoSuave and thinking that they have to next every girl that gives them grief, or thinking that females treats males like yesterday's garbage, or thinking that sleeping with ten women is the band-aid for a broken heart.

We have the right idea in mind, but we do get overboard with this DJ dogma to the point where we view women as enemies.. This kind of attitude only makes the process a lot more painful. I'm all about anti-AFCism, but there's hardly anything in this forum about making a girl feel special, like buying her flowers or writing her a love song. Those things are only AFC if you do them wrong. Rock stars write love songs all the time and they get action.

Gah, let me elaborate a bit more.

AFC-ism is basically rooted from doing something for a woman's approval. Since AFCs have a strong tendency to be "sweet" or "nice," and AFCs have girl-problems, people may get the idea being "sweet" and "nice" are bad things. So, if the message getting across is "don't be nice to a girl," we're going to have this mentality leak out into the people who post here on SoSuave. This is bad, because you don't need to objectify women to get the success you want. You only have to be attractive and know how to make a woman receptive to you. You don't need to hate anyone in the process.

 

[Jitterbug]

We have the right idea in mind, but we do get overboard with this DJ dogma to the point where we view women as enemies.. This kind of attitude only makes the process a lot more painful. I'm all about anti-AFCism, but there's hardly anything in this forum about making a girl feel special, like buying her flowers or writing her a love song. Those things are only AFC if you do them wrong. Rock stars write love songs all the time and they get action.

They do because of their status (women dig being in the limelight with them), not because of their work. They're also good at writing songs & poems. Your average guy is terrible at it.

There are plenty of materials around here about making a girl feel special, if you look careful enough. What are opposed here are the Hollywood-inspired BS ways of making a girl feel special, because while they work in movies (thanks to handsome & famous actors), they don't work in real life.

While I agree that hating women is stupid, unproductive and just leads to a life of negativity, labelling anything a man says about women that doesn't flatter them "misogyny" is just as bad. Leave that job to the bitter old militant feminists.

 

[The Deacon]

While I agree that hating women is stupid, unproductive and just leads to a life of negativity, labelling anything a man says about women that doesn't flatter them "misogyny" is just as bad. Leave that job to the bitter old militant feminists.

Haha, okay, touche.

 

[( . )( . )]

Do you find it at all interesting that we have such an easy, convenient term like "misogyny" that's so readily applicable and easily understandable (even by 19 y.o. guys)

You beat me to it.

And give me a bloody break, I bet 10$ this douche wouldnt even know an actual real life woman "hater" in the true sense of what misogyny means, these pre-pubed wankers (and it's nearly always a teenager spouting this here) make out there is one on every corner.

Call me batsh!t crazy but I get more pissed off at these zombified boys than I ever could over a chick.

Moronic T.V. Get outside, get dirty, get in a fight or something for fvcks sake, too many of you time wasting nimrods floating about .

 

[The Deacon]

And give me a bloody break, I bet 10$ this douche wouldnt even know an actual real life woman "hater" in the true sense of what misogyny means, these pre-pubed wankers (and it's nearly always a teenager spouting this here) make out there is one on every corner.

Hi there.

If you're going to talk like you're smarter than me, at least do it with some tact. For fvcks sake, you've gotten past your teenage years. I know that you've got over 2,000 posts on this forum and you have "tenure," but what you said right there makes you look like a douche.

 

[( . )( . )]

Suck me.



edit: and dont be sending me anymore nasty private messages either, just means I gotta delete them and thats effort. If I was a chick you would be a "misogynist" for that you know?

 

[The Deacon]

Grow up.

 

[ketostix]

Do you find it at all interesting that we have such an easy, convenient term like "misogyny" that's so readily applicable and easily understandable (even by 19 y.o. guys) in our popular consciousness? You didn't have to write an essay on it in high school to understand what you believe it means or how it ought to be applied, but here you are applying it. I'm not questioning your opinion, I'm only questioning how you came to it. Who taught you what misogyny is? Do you remember when you first heard the term used? Who was using it and in what context?

You're a clear-thinking, forgiving human being, does this clear-thinking extend to being open to the idea that maybe you've been misled?

Spot on Rollo. For most people, and all women, the standard definition of a misogynist=a guy who does not accept all of feminism's dogma and verbalizes any descention.