Mirage's Dating Journal

[Mirage]

Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is the right section but could you move the thread if isn't? Sorry for any incovenience.

I am sharing my various dating experiences as a way to give back to the PuA community. I have learned a lot from reading threads here and there on the forum and went from being completely clueless to, well, slightly less clueless.

I am also writing this to get feedback as how to become better. Although I have certainly improved over time, I still have loads to learn. I’d be interested in listening what you have to say as I am determined to become better. I’m having trouble getting a good reply rate from my online contact and it’s getting very frustrating at the moment.

I’m 32 by the way.

*Note that most if not all of the girls I dated I met through a dating website.
#1: Marie-E 1:
Age: 30
HB (can’t say I’m a fan of the expression but since it’s part of the terminology): 8/10
Met ME through the website, she lived quite far away from my home actually (close to 2 hours).

First Contact: I read her description and picked up that she was in this New Age stuff, spiritual tendencies. I figured that would be a nice way to stand out from the rest so I mentioned that it was cool that she was involved in volunteering for things and so on. I actually sent her a generic message which I copy/pasted to quite a few other girls. She didn’t seem to mind however (or to notice, I don’t know) as she replied pretty quickly.

We met for a walk outside. Since I’ve read quite a bit about Buddhism and all psychology, I found that the conversation could revolve around that. As it turns out, she was more of an intellectual spiritual person and didn’t really put into actions what she preached. At this point I figured it would be an easy target, when a girl doesn’t have any strong principles, she’ll more likely to be willing.

Anyhow, I actually spent the whole time arguing with her. She wasn’t that smart and was full of contradictions. I didn’t think it was going to lead anywhere so I figured might as well corner her somewhat and enjoy a good debate. Anyway, it got cold and as we walked in front of her place, I asked if I could get a drink of water.

Interestingly, I had not planned this as a way to walk inside her home. It was pretty cold out so I asked if we could stay inside. She agreed and brought some wine (that’s a sign things are going in the right direction by the way). She had what I thought was ridiculous book about angels so we had a laugh while reading it. We were both sitting on her couch.

I kind of forgot what happened next but we started kissing. We went to her bed and although she was willing she had her period.
*flash forward a week*
She came to visit me at my apartment but it was a mess. Interestingly, it brought the whole deal down. I somehow managed to convince her to take a shower with me and it was a done deal then. She had a sweet bubble ass and some nice big boobs, it’s say some C. She was from South America originally but was adopted here, in Canada.

The sex was really, really good although it only happened about 4 times during her one night stay at my place. She was a squirter and would bite her forearms during sex. Besides, she got on all four on my bed and gave me one of the best ******* I’ve ever had to be honest.

She was 30 and experienced and it showed.

Anyway, she texted me the day after to tell me we were through. She said that my apartment was a representation of my mind and that I had some cleaning to do.

I tried to hook up with her later but she refused. I need to find a way to pull this one out, I’ve very seldom managed.

Things to avoid:
* A messy apartment, make sure your place is super clean when you invite a girl over, it matters a great deal to them.
* That walk we did could have been shorter, I think it was like 2 or 3 hours. Then again, she might’ve refused to go further if we had walked into her place an hour later. Not sure.

More coming soon,

 

[cordoncordon]

Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is the right section but could you move the thread if isn't? Sorry for any incovenience.

I am sharing my various dating experiences as a way to give back to the PuA community. I have learned a lot from reading threads here and there on the forum and went from being completely clueless to, well, slightly less clueless.

I am also writing this to get feedback as how to become better. Although I have certainly improved over time, I still have loads to learn. I’d be interested in listening what you have to say as I am determined to become better. I’m having trouble getting a good reply rate from my online contact and it’s getting very frustrating at the moment.

I’m 32 by the way.

*Note that most if not all of the girls I dated I met through a dating website.
#1: Marie-E 1:
Age: 30
HB (can’t say I’m a fan of the expression but since it’s part of the terminology): 8/10
Met ME through the website, she lived quite far away from my home actually (close to 2 hours).

First Contact: I read her description and picked up that she was in this New Age stuff, spiritual tendencies. I figured that would be a nice way to stand out from the rest so I mentioned that it was cool that she was involved in volunteering for things and so on. I actually sent her a generic message which I copy/pasted to quite a few other girls. She didn’t seem to mind however (or to notice, I don’t know) as she replied pretty quickly.

We met for a walk outside. Since I’ve read quite a bit about Buddhism and all psychology, I found that the conversation could revolve around that. As it turns out, she was more of an intellectual spiritual person and didn’t really put into actions what she preached. At this point I figured it would be an easy target, when a girl doesn’t have any strong principles, she’ll more likely to be willing.

Anyhow, I actually spent the whole time arguing with her. She wasn’t that smart and was full of contradictions. I didn’t think it was going to lead anywhere so I figured might as well corner her somewhat and enjoy a good debate. Anyway, it got cold and as we walked in front of her place, I asked if I could get a drink of water.

Interestingly, I had not planned this as a way to walk inside her home. It was pretty cold out so I asked if we could stay inside. She agreed and brought some wine (that’s a sign things are going in the right direction by the way). She had what I thought was ridiculous book about angels so we had a laugh while reading it. We were both sitting on her couch.

I kind of forgot what happened next but we started kissing. We went to her bed and although she was willing she had her period.
*flash forward a week*
She came to visit me at my apartment but it was a mess. Interestingly, it brought the whole deal down. I somehow managed to convince her to take a shower with me and it was a done deal then. She had a sweet bubble ass and some nice big boobs, it’s say some C. She was from South America originally but was adopted here, in Canada.

The sex was really, really good although it only happened about 4 times during her one night stay at my place. She was a squirter and would bite her forearms during sex. Besides, she got on all four on my bed and gave me one of the best ******* I’ve ever had to be honest.

She was 30 and experienced and it showed.

Anyway, she texted me the day after to tell me we were through. She said that my apartment was a representation of my mind and that I had some cleaning to do.

I tried to hook up with her later but she refused. I need to find a way to pull this one out, I’ve very seldom managed.

Things to avoid:
* A messy apartment, make sure your place is super clean when you invite a girl over, it matters a great deal to them.
* That walk we did could have been shorter, I think it was like 2 or 3 hours. Then again, she might’ve refused to go further if we had walked into her place an hour later. Not sure.

More coming soon,

You talk about her being full of contradictions....I think you both are haha.

You........"The sex was really, really good although it only happened about 4 times during her one night stay at my place."




Huh? Only happened 4 times in one night? How many times do you usually have sex in a night? 20? Odd.

Her......"Anyway, she texted me the day after to tell me we were through. She said that my apartment was a representation of my mind and that I had some cleaning to do."

She is willing to have sex with you 4 times in a night, but can't see you anymore after because your apt is too messy? Ok then. That my friend is called a psycho.

You did well to ONLY hit that 4 times and to have her end things. Any more and who knows what kind of drama you could have been pulled into.

 

[Mirage]

Hi cordoncordon,

Huh? Only happened 4 times in one night? How many times do you usually have sex in a night? 20? Odd.

Well, I guess what I’m saying is that I would have like to have sex with her more often.

As for the mess, I mean, I knew right off the bat this would go nowhere but I figured it would be a waste not to sleep with her, which I did.

#2: Marie-P 1
Age: 25 +/-
HB: 6.5/10

This one will be pretty short.

Honestly, I jokingly asked her if she’d like to stop by my place. Sometimes, using humor to make outrageous requests is certainly worth it. Keep in mind I had never talked or met her before. If she agrees, you’re on. If she disagree, you can just laugh it off as a joke, this has worked wonders for me.

She was pretty short (4’11’) and I like that in a woman. She had a super nice body, pretty thin compared to the South American girl (which wasn’t big at all mind you). Pretty small ass and just perfect, boobs.

Anyhow, I had invited her over to watch a movie. I think this is probably the best strategy across the board to close a deal. It was a horror movie.
We didn’t really have much to say to each other but I just teased her.

Honestly, I figured that if a girl is willing to come over my place to watch a movie before even meeting me, she must be very open-minded.

So I teased her and sat her on me (she was super light, wonderful). I can’t remember if we drank something or not really. Anyways, she stayed there and I started kissing her neck. I took off her clothes and after kissing for a while she got on her knees and gave me head. It was pretty good too, about on par with the South American Girl. She just took the initiative, which was great.

Long story short, we started having sex on my couch and she came really quickly, saying it was always more exciting the first time. We finished in my bedroom and she left after. She texted me a bit asking me to come along for a rally she was doing. I knew she wasn’t the right one for me so I refused.

She texted me some more and I stopped replying and that was that.

Anyways, a fun experience all in all. I was kind of stupid not to try to keep the thing lasting longer however. It’s kind of like when you’ve just had sex you figure you’ll never need to do it again in the future (I mean, right after).

Some Things I learned
* Humor goes a long way. Most things to as long as the convo remains light and humoristic.
* Movies are the best activities to get somewhere. You don’t always need to talk, you can cuddle and it’s already intimate.

 

[Mirage]

#3 Annie : [laid]
Age: 29
That was a strange encounter. Annie and I started texting back and forth on the first day.
We were getting along fine and she was quite pretty in my opinion. Turns out she had a kid with a certain disability but it didn’t bother me. If we hit it off big time, that’s something I could live with. If not, we could have a good time together.
*I just lost a very long message due to Microsoft ****ING auto-update which is really a major pain in the ass.
Anyway, to sum it up:
We texted back and forth during the first day of contact. I started making jokes to bring me closer and closer to the topic of sexuality (gradually, not abruptly). Eventually she invited me over (as a **** test) and I said: “Ok, I’m coming”. I got there and she was nervous, probably didn’t think I would have the balls to show up to her place without having met her first.
When I got there I told her I thought she looked pretty. She replied that she thought I was handsome and that point I thought I was on the right path.
She got some wine and we looked at some pictures and she said: “Do you think this is boring?” I said, no, “as long as I can get closer to you”. She laughed.
When I got there she was wearing her p/j, pants and a white tank top. She bended over to show kind of show me her boobs and said: “Just for you”. We ended up kissing as we were sitting really close to one another and we ended up having sex.
The whole time she kept telling me: “You know, I don’t want this to be a sex thing. If I wanted to have sex, it’s easy, I would just go to a bar.” I kind of didn’t really know how to react. Part of me wanted to respect the fact that she didn’t only wanted to have sex but wanted a relationship too but part of me doubted she was telling me the truth. Why invite a complete stranger after texting about sex to your place if not to get laid?
So we had sex. We met a couple of times after but it didn’t work out. Do you guys think that having sex early jinxes the whole relationship? I’m sort of starting to think so.
We had nothing in common and just not on the same wavelength, you can feel those things from the get go I find.
So we stopped texting and that was that. It probably lasted a week or a bit less. I don’t mind that it didn’t last long because we weren’t meant for each other. I’m really glad I managed to have sex with her, she had a nice body and sex was really fun.
#4 Julie [laid]
Age: 30
Alright, hang on to your hats, this one was something else.
I first contacted her a while ago, on the website I mean. We exchanged messages back and forth but for some reason I can’t recall we stopped.
I wrote to her again months later. This time, we hit it off more. One way I find which works well is to get them to chat on facebook. Usually, if you get there, you are well on your way to success. In other words, get in contact first, get a reply, maintain interest and head to facebook.
So we chatted on facebook and we set up a date on the Friday that followed. On the night before, she texts me: “I’ve decided to meet my friends instead, it’s my birthday and I’d rather be with them”. Then I knew this wouldn’t be serious as I could never stand a woman who can’t keep her word. I told her that I was mad she was setting me up last minute and she replied something along the lines of: “If you can’t understand that.. bla… bla…” We stopped.
I don’t remember how we got in touch again. Through facebook I think. I think I wished her a happy birthday (I was pretty sexually starved at this point and didn’t mind stepping on my ego a bit). We talked for a while and I ended up at her place to watch a movie. We didn’t watch the movie for a single second. We talked and when there was silence I would just grin at her and look in her eyes.
We ended up having sex and it was pretty wild too. She was super willing to do just about anything and it was the first time I was sticking my thumb in a woman’s bum. She really, really liked sex and we were compatible on that aspect, none of that touchy feely sex, just some primal stuff.
She had two kids and we did have a lot to talk about. She had a really nasty temper though as I would soon find out.
I dropped by her place pretty often then, mostly for sex. I would leave in the morning and would come back in the evening to have sex with her.
Eventually, she told me: “I’d prefer if we didn’t only meet for sex you know”. Then I told her: “Ok, well, if you want us to stop having sex for a while and just meet it’s ok with me”. She didn’t hold a minute. I wonder why she said that if she actually didn’t mean it.
So on Friday she invited me to her place and I said I was meeting my friend (I told her on Monday that I was meeting my friend who lives far away). She asked if my friend was female (she was pretty jealous) and I said no. I could tell she was disappointed that I couldn’t meet her.
We had arranged to go canoeing on Sunday noon (my friend was to leave in the morning). On Sunday morning she texts me: “I can’t go boating, I’m going to spend the day with my friend instead”. Now, I really hate to be stood up and had told her so on the first time it happened. She knew full well what she was doing. I think she was getting back at me for not meeting her on Friday (although I had told her a week in advance). As good as the sex was, I was mad and texted her to stop contacting me and that was that.
All in all, she was a bit of a nutcase (the craziest girl I’ve been with). Apparently, she had this dark secret but I never figured out what it was. So that was that with Julie. Good sex but just really messed up. Her ex (the father of her kids) had cheated on her numerous times for a year and a half, that might have been it, I don’t know.
#5: Sandra [laid]
Age: 33
Now Sandra was also a single mom (this happens a lot once you get to women at the end of their twenties and beginning of their thirties).
She was really cute, the face of someone who really like sex (I don’t know, you can tell somewhat). Most beautiful boobs I’ve ever seen. They might have been fake though, not sure.
Same story as with Annie pretty much. Quick contact and we met like a day after. She invited me to her place. As it turns out, her bro had won a BMX contest and the whole family was there so it was somewhat intimidating for me. I ended up meddling with her family and not so much with her.
Flash forward, we’re a group of people around a fire. She puts her legs on me (she’s really wasted at that point). We start talking a bit and make out. Now keep in mind her parents were there and they were meeting me for the first time. At this point in time, I thought: “Oh well, let’s do it then”. So we groped and kissed in front of her family which really lacked class come to think about it but she said she didn’t mind. In the end, she got so drunk I had to carry her to her bed. I gave her a glass of water which she dropped on her face and that was that.
The next day I came back to watch a movie and we ended up finally having sex. Great sex too. She was really into tattoos and bad boys (which I’m not) though and felt intimidated because she felt stupid with me so it didn’t work out. It’s really too bad that those kinda dumb redneck girls are often so cute and good at sex. So that was that with Sandra. I might contact her again, I don’t know. Worth a try. If worse comes to worst, she won’t reply and that will be that. I’ve been kind of struggling lately and going through a very dry phase now (it’s been more than a month without sex now and I find it hard to bear).
*Intermission*
You know what kind of bothers me about the whole deal though? Recently I’ve been trying to be more transparent about my intentions, my personality and about what I want. What I mean by that is that I’ve played less games and skipped with manipulation altogether. Part of me kind of feel like it’s wrong, I can’t shake that feeling.
Well, this hasn’t been working well for me at all. I don’t know if I’m drawing the wrong conclusion here but it seems that being straightforward and honest might not be such a good thing after all.
Which kind of brings me to a dilemma actually.
What do you guys think? I don’t really have any guy friends to have this question to so I would appreciate to read what you guys think about this.
*End of intermission*
#6: Marika [kissed]
Age: 31
I met Marika for a walk. She was super thin with a great butt.
We ended going for a walk (I don’t like going for dinner, it costs money and you feel pressured to talk all the time).
We (I) talked. She was nervous and was standing there like a mute. I could have kept quiet too but I felt like this would have meant the end of the date and I had driven over an hour to meet her so I wasn’t too keen on that. We ended up going to a bar for a drink. I kissed her then, on the cheek, totally by surprise. She blushed but liked it.
I asked if we could go to her home. The thing is, she lives with her mom so we couldn’t go inside. We came close to sleeping together but it didn’t happen unfortunately. The next day she texted me saying: “You’re great but I felt anxious after you left so I don’t want to meet again” and that was that.
It’s pretty insane when you think about it, I mean, the amount of white lies and untruth you have to deal with in the end.
So anyway, I tried to contact her again to sleep with her but she was adamant, no way to meet her again and so that was that.
#7: Marie-Eve [nothing]
Age: 34
I thought she was pretty cute judging on her picture but really, in person, it was a totally different story. She rambled on and on about how bad men were and just being super negative and I couldn’t wait to leave. I e-mailed her later saying that I think we should just be friends and we never met again, so that was that with her.

 

[Mirage]

#7: Marie-Eve [nothing]
Age: 34
I thought she was pretty cute judging on her picture but really, in person, it was a totally different story. She rambled on and on about how bad men were and just being super negative and I couldn’t wait to leave. I e-mailed her later saying that I think we should just be friends and we never met again, so that was that with her.
#8: Marie-Pierre
Interestingly, she was one of the girl I stayed the longest with (a couple of weeks). She was cute, a really nice rack, real big just like I like them. She liked sex just as much as I did too.
I’ve already typed 4 pages of stories now and I’m kind of fed up. Let’s see what you guys have to say. I’ll fill you up with more stories later on.
*Intermission 2*
One thing which does bother me however is that I’m finding hard to make progress recently. I used to be the kind of guy who would isolate himself in computer games, movies and what have you and I’ve long quit all of this. I don’t even have cable or the internet in my place and stopped the games a long time ago.
I feel like I’ve made so many drastic changes you know to focus on my goal with women I mean. But these days I’m dealing with so many flakes, people who won’t bother to a reply to a polite request, I don’t know, lots of bull**** women related. I think it’s the consecutive experiences with flakes which has bothered me quite a bit. Women starting something and then just disappearing off the face of the earth. This kind of feeds the beast in me who feel like turning into an amoral manipulator who’ll just about do anything to get laid. I haven’t given in for sure but I don’t know, it does build up frustration. Just needed to vent a bit.

 

[Greasy Pig]

Good reports OP! Sounds like you're getting laid regularly with random chicks. Pity they all seem to have serious psychological defects.