mind games

[Deadly_Assassin]

http://www.girlzone.com/insideout/MindGames_io.html

I just read this and was interested in your guys thoughts. Do all girls play mind games even if they are genuinely interested in you?

 

[So pimp its scary]

Some girls will play mind games with you, the trick is to notice these games AS SOON AS POSSIBLE and then CALL the GIRL OUT on it. EXACTLY like the article says.

I've been guilty of a couple of those games myself tho...

NOT ALL WOMEN DO THESE THINGS!! If you're at the bar, yes you are ALOT more likely to run into these girls than at your public library, but the point is that there are good women areound... sometimes it just takes a while to find a worthy girl.

Testing on the other hand is mandatory, women test everything about a man every chance they get,,, if they can come up with a test, then they will add it to the repertoire. The way to get past these tests is to just bulldose right through them as if they weren't there... watch out tho, it's easy to say too much and come across as an as$hole. Now I more or less play it up "Sorry, I'm the as.shole " usually followed by "Well, I'm nice like that."

Develop the right mindset and you don't even realize the tests are there anymore, it's default response to pass them without incident.

 

[Distant Light]

Not sure some girls do. I even do depending on the frame i set. I know a few people who set a Hard to get frame that gets the girl chasing them. Girls do play mind games though, its like girls giving fake IOIs to try and manipulate you to do something.

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

So when a girl is playing mind games with you, she is not genuinely interested in you? I am asking this becos of a girl I felt lead me on. She seemed to fit me into the 'conquest' category.

 

[Dante1a]

Girls are always testing...some are better at it then others.

I'm personally having fun watching this one girl keep testing me and then by testing her back. It's a odd situation, but will pay off in the long run.

She's trying all kinds of things to get a rise out of me. Telling me about the guy she met and kissed on New Years, then adding "And that was it!" and waiting for my reaction. I acted completely unaffected.

Girls have raised the value of themselves and sex in society because it is in their genetic makeup. The more power they possess through sex and attraction, the more a man is less likely to hit and run to another women. They test to see if you are "safe" to mate with. They test to see if they can make you angry or elicit feelings in you.

Some women, more than others, want to see if they can control you. Deep down though, they want to respect a man who subdues them and in one way or another, dominates them.

 

[Warlord]

Think of dating as the same as gambling.

If you lose a lot of money in gambling, more than likely you lose a lot in dating because the good gamblers/good daters *know* when to fold or when to keep betting for the bigger prize. The bad players always give away their cards by being emotion or looking nervous while the more confident (even if have a bad hand) keep cool knowing that the other player(s) are bluffing. Just like gambling, it's always about when to fold or when to keep betting.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

I take the games as the girls wanting to know if you are really telling the truth or not. It's not a **** test for the sake of making you feel ****ty. They want to know if you are what they want. If your not, or you lie to them, and your lie wasn't strong, you fail.

Dante knows what to do, play the game, test them back to prove you caught them in their game right away, and you want to keep playing. Of course if you want to be boring, or the girl doesn't interest you, don't play. I don't know what you mean by being in the "conquest" category, perhaps you were a prize worth catching and throing away, me personally, I'd want the biggest steak on my plate, "get my cake and eat it too" but I want to work for it, I don't want just any easy girl to be my LTR. If you wanted a sexual conquest, you fail if you don't play the game right though.

Distant light, notices the weak girls, the sucseptible ones, the girls who want you to make the first move, and prove THEM wrong. THey are easy, you can fool them, while being nice, and they will let you lie. They are weak in my eyes, not strong enough to test me, they don't have enough mirth if they are too scared to ask. SO I tease them on the subject, about them not testing me, and I treat them like a little brat who tortures her barbie dolls because she is bored.

I'm guessing So pimp it's scary is taking these **** tests along the same lines as me. They are just another piece of the womans game, some girls don't like the game, but they know how to play it. It's like Mystery, playing magic tricks, another part of his repertoire.

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

thanx guys for some really good answers. Man that part about controlling your emotions just like in gambling was a really good illustration.

She seemed to fit me into the 'conquest' category.

It seemed like she only liked me till she got me.

Some women, more than others, want to see if they can control you. Deep down though, they want to respect a man who subdues them and in one way or another, dominates them

Honestly when I am talking to girls most of the time I keep quiet so to let the girls keep on yapping. But sometimes I let the girls take on the lead in the conversation and I gotta really work on this. I think its in the mindset.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

To make you think a little harder on both of your mindset comments. "Conquest" and "letting her yap" are a problem, both for the same reason. You have nothing better to do, and she knows that, she thinks there is more, but once she catches you, she sees your just bluffing, and she calls you on your game. You lose all of your chips, and you lose right there. Hopefully you didn't go all in, she sure thinks you did.

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

To make you think a little harder on both of your mindset comments. "Conquest" and "letting her yap" are a problem, both for the same reason. You have nothing better to do, and she knows that, she thinks there is more, but once she catches you, she sees your just bluffing, and she calls you on your game. You lose all of your chips, and you lose right there. Hopefully you didn't go all in, she sure thinks you did.

I am lost. Could you please elaborate.

The way I lost the game was because I went out one night, got drunk and got with two other chicks and then bragged about it to her best mate. On top of that when the best mate asked me if I liked the chick, I told her no way and that she was leading me on but I could get her whenever I wanted to.

A couple of days later I kinda talked to the chick about what I said to her best mate. I also said that I just looked at her as a freind. The same night I tried to ask her out "I dont mind if you wanted to go out sometime" and she gave me the "looking for a genuine person" lecture.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Originally posted by Deadly_Assassin
thanx guys for some really good answers. Man that part about controlling your emotions just like in gambling was a really good illustration.

It seemed like she only liked me till she got me.

Honestly when I am talking to girls most of the time I keep quiet so to let the girls keep on yapping. But sometimes I let the girls take on the lead in the conversation and I gotta really work on this. I think its in the mindset.

Tough, really tough.

the middle part there, when I asked you about being her conquest. Do you really believe that anymore after what you just said?

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

the middle part there, when I asked you about being her conquest. Do you really believe that anymore after what you just said

are you talking about the quote you in your previous post?

I don't know what you mean by being in the "conquest" category, perhaps you were a prize worth catching and throing away

It seemed like she only liked me till she got me.

yea i guess i still believe it.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Listen to me from now on, as though I am not lying to you, if I sound ****ed up, it's because I am, and I don't know better, so just tell me, and help me solve my problem. I am a grown man, and I am tired of running.

So when is said "after what you just said," just was the key word.

Originally posted by Deadly_Assassin
I am lost. Could you please elaborate.

The way I lost the game was because I went out one night, got drunk and got with two other chicks and then bragged about it to her best mate. On top of that when the best mate asked me if I liked the chick, I told her no way and that she was leading me on but I could get her whenever I wanted to.

A couple of days later I kinda talked to the chick about what I said to her best mate. I also said that I just looked at her as a freind. The same night I tried to ask her out "I dont mind if you wanted to go out sometime" and she gave me the "looking for a genuine person" lecture.

she gave me the "looking for a genuine person" lecture.

You said it yourself. I couldn't have told you the answer any better, than the way you believe it. She said she's looking for a genuine person.

So some women play mind games, others use tests... if you went through life, winning every game, and passing every test, I'm betterg you would get very, VERY bored. Learn to have fun with everything, be genuine, don't lie to yourself, and you are that much more genuine to her. The message I am trying to getdrilled into my brain is this. Being a DJ, is about not lying to anybody, about what you know is true. I don't hide anything from people these days, I might try to conceal it, but even getting angry is a tell tale sign, freaking out, laughing off a problem... it all shows that you have ISSUES. Issues that people tell you the truth about all of the time, ALL of the time. Have fun, is number one, stop lying to other people that you know more than you do, because you are just lying to yourself, you want to know more, and others are willing to help, if you ask the right way. There are ways to cheat, but you don't gain as much in the end.

I am sorry for hijacking your thread dude, I am just trying to flush my system. I hated lying as a kid, the first time somebody ever caught me stealing, I found them 8 years later and fell in love. I've since found out how I was hurting her, so I left her alone, and stayed away, it hurts me now still to this day, knowing she saved me. I speak, and hope somebody will listen, and a blog would be absolutely ****ing useless for me to use. I am still scared of opening up like this in public though, I still try to be nice. I am too nice on myself ou there, I am an ASSH0LE to other people, but I still give them EVERYTHING they ask for.

Well Mindgames, are just that, games, they are AWESOME, I love games, I wish I could play hard to win games everyday, to challenge myself. ****-tests too, I love getting them, they show me what I am lacking, always, f the girl walks away, I'm not going to lie, I want to know why.

"I'm not going to lie, I want to know why"

Thanks for letting me speak my mind.

 

[Deadly_Assassin]

yea i learnt my lesson about the braggin and the lying part. But thanx for putting the time and effort in replying to my posts.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Originally posted by Deadly_Assassin
yea i learnt my lesson about the braggin and the lying part. But thanx for putting the time and effort in replying to my posts.

It was more for me anyways Your welcome though, if it helped, I tried, I think.

Well in the end, from what I can tell, without the empotions clouding my thinking... She still likes you, she didn't want you to cheat on her. You are the one who's got to prove to her, you can be loyal.

At this point, I would just play games, and prove to her your a fun guy, and that life is not about finding a life partner who might turn out to be whack after two years of relationship. Tell her your having fun, and playing around with other girls, to give her a choice.