Middle age slump

[ketostix]

Here's a news article with a study that says people generally are happy in their youth, have a slump in middle age, then become happy again in old age. So I guess there's hope for mature men when they get older lol.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22896014/

 

[joekerr31]

Here's a news article with a study that says people generally are happy in their youth, have a slump in middle age, then become happy again in old age. So I guess there's hope for mature men when they get older lol.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22896014/

i havent read the article but this seems sort of true.

the reason being, i would think anyway, is that when you are young and when you are old, you have no worries.

when you are young you're naive of the future. when you are 18 years old, 25 years old seems like a lifetime away. so you don't worry so much about your 'future' because its so far away (you think).

when you are old you've lived hte life you've lived. no point crying of spilled milk. you accept your station in life and make the best of it.

between 25-55 are your working years. where your doing your best to balance work, finances, buying a home, marriage, kids, etc. - constant stresses from morning until night.

BUT if you learn how to deal with stress and learn how to take control of your happiness and life i believe you can be just as happy (if not more so) in your middle years as any other time in life.

 

[Mr. Wise]

Here's my advice: Stay fit throughout your lifetime by adapting to a healthy lifestyle and you'll never get into a slump. I see no problem with fit guys in their 50's getting 30 something hotties without a problem. You're allowed to settle down in your 60's if you want to.

 

[Mr. Wise]

Staying physically fit as I mentioned above really does make a difference as mentioned in the article.

"But the good news is that if people make it to age 70 and are still physically fit, they are on average as happy and mentally healthy as a 20-year old."

 

[LoneSilver]

So true Mr. Wise

LoneSilver

Here's my advice: Stay fit throughout your lifetime by adapting to a healthy lifestyle and you'll never get into a slump. I see no problem with fit guys in their 50's getting 30 something hotties without a problem. You're allowed to settle down in your 60's if you want to.

 

[Mr. Me]

Staying physically fit is so unbelievably key. I'm one of those anomalies; the rare (it seems to me) guys in their 50's who appear younger, and are in shape. There's Pierce Brosnan, Lorenzo Lamas, George Clooney, and me. Cough, cough.

I eat right and work out 3x a week and have since my late 30's because I had heard how the body slows down and loses strength in one's 40's, and people get overweight a few pounds a year, and before you know it, they have 60 extra pounds they're carrying. I realized one's body is the only vehicle you'll have to transport yourself around later on lin life, the ability to do so having a profund impact on one's quality of life.

I was seeing older people I knew pay for the years of abuse they had heaped on their bodies by way of their overindulging and giving lip service to exercise, now needing canes to support their girth imposed upon feeble weak legs, in order to walk. Needing a rest break when walking from one place to another. Terrible.

It doesn't happen to them overnight. When they were younger, they got away some with their excesses because their youth was forgiving and covered over a lot of errors, and/or they were in also comfortable relationships where they let themselves go.

One day, I blinked, and I was in my 50s. But I can walk into a pub and attract younger women, and trust me men, you want to be able to do this one day when, in a blink, you too shall be in your 50's. You don't want to be the pot bellied, ungroomed dude who wishes he could "find someone to love him for who he is".

But tell me more about where I can meet these 30 y.o. hotties.

 

[meitenesrigas]

Here's my advice: Stay fit throughout your lifetime by adapting to a healthy lifestyle and you'll never get into a slump. I see no problem with fit guys in their 50's getting 30 something hotties without a problem. You're allowed to settle down in your 60's if you want to.

Dream on if you live in America. If you move to the right place you can get a lot of 19 year olds at 55 if you have the right credentials. I see it every Saturday at the mall.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Great Post, Mr. Me!

Yo Troops,


I'm getting ready for my 25th High School Reunion later this year. I recently went to a meeting and MOST of what I saw were men and women who actually "looked like" somebody's father or mother. Very few of them were fit, most had put on pounds, and most of the pounds they had put on were in "unflattering" places.

Now don't get me wrong, not EVERYBODY looked "thrown away", but so few of them looked GOOD that the ones who WERE in shape looked GREAT by comparison. It was a very strange situation: Here I was with people I went to school with who were in their early 40's too, and all I could think about was how "old" THEY looked to ME. LOL

And not all of this was delusional on my part, either. A couple of the classmates were there with their grown, early 20's-aged daughters. And there was some definite flirting going on with me and a few of them. And I know this was the case because one former high school chick went out of her way to tell me "She's too young for you VU. YOU need to leave my daughter alone...".

Meanwhile, later that evening I was being told by some of my misguided, but well-meaning friends that I should STOP denying reality----that no matter how often I worked out, no matter how fit I was, my ASS was still the same age that they were.

Their main objective was to tell me that they thought I should soften my overall standards and start thinking more about "settling". A strategy, by the way, that I know by decades of observation, has NOT worked for either of them.

Why? Because as LAST MAN STANDING would say "The MATRIX has them!!!!"

But for a brief moment, I almost let their statements slide. THEN I thought about the women THEY attracted, THEN I thought about the health issues that SOME of them had unfortunately began to experience, and THEN I thought about how "happy" THEY were with the women they had "settled" for-----and I came to my fukking senses.

The choices I have made thus far in my life have afforded me the "caliber and variety" options NOW that THEY have probably never had in their entire lives-----not even when we were all years younger. For the most part, I'm in better shape, attract FAR younger and (argueably) better women, and am happier with my overall life than many of THEM seem to be at this point.

I know that this is LIFE, and nobody gets out of it ALIVE. But I'll be damned if I go quietly into that good night (the life of complacency that leads to early and UNNECESSARY decay).

I recognize that there is NOT a competition between me and my friends, because I DO love those guys and they have had my back for many years. But what I also recognize is that taking care of yourself the best that you can is probably a great way to get the MOST out of life while you're still here. This shyt ain't about living FOREVER in these bodies, it's about being able to live to the FULLEST in these bodies.

As those great Prophets of Rock DEF LEPPARD once said: "It's better to BURN OUT, than to fade awayyyyyyy...".:rockon:

Our enjoyment of this life, and our overall satisfaction with it, would surely be better served by doing the best that we can with whatever it is that we've got-----physically, mentally, financially, spiritually, or what-have-you. This is how a man avoids a so-called "slump", or at least minimizes it's length.

I believe that I'm on the right path, for ME...despite what others may say to the contrary. And I have enough tangible proof NOW to have confidence enough to STAY on the road that I have chosen...as I continue to----


------MARCH ON.

 

[ketostix]

Great Post, Mr. Me!

Yo Troops,


I'm getting ready for my 25th High School Reunion later this year. I recently went to a meeting and MOST of what I saw were men and women who actually "looked like" somebody's father or mother. Very few of them were fit, most had put on pounds, and most of the pounds they had put on were in "unflattering" places.

Now don't get me wrong, not EVERYBODY looked "thrown away", but so few of them looked GOOD that the ones who WERE in shape looked GREAT by comparison. It was a very strange situation: Here I was with people I went to school with who were in their early 40's too, and all I could think about was how "old" THEY looked to ME. LOL

And not all of this was delusional on my part, either. A couple of the classmates were there with their grown, early 20's-aged daughters. And there was some definite flirting going on with me and a few of them. And I know this was the case because one former high school chick went out of her way to tell me "She's too young for you VU. YOU need to leave my daughter alone...".

Meanwhile, later that evening I was being told by some of my misguided, but well-meaning friends that I should STOP denying reality----that no matter how often I worked out, no matter how fit I was, my ASS was still the same age that they were.

Their main objective was to tell me that they thought I should soften my overall standards and start thinking more about "settling". A strategy, by the way, that I know by decades of observation, has NOT worked for either of them.

Why? Because as LAST MAN STANDING would say "The MATRIX has them!!!!"

But for a brief moment, I almost let their statements slide. THEN I thought about the women THEY attracted, THEN I thought about the health issues that SOME of them had unfortunately began to experience, and THEN I thought about how "happy" THEY were with the women they had "settled" for-----and I came to my fukking senses.

The choices I have made thus far in my life have afforded me the "caliber and variety" options NOW that THEY have probably never had in their entire lives-----not even when we were all years younger. For the most part, I'm in better shape, attract FAR younger and (argueably) better women, and am happier with my overall life than many of THEM seem to be at this point.

I know that this is LIFE, and nobody gets out of it ALIVE. But I'll be damned if I go quietly into that good night (the life of complacency that leads to early and UNNECESSARY decay).

I recognize that there is NOT a competition between me and my friends, because I DO love those guys and they have had my back for many years. But what I also recognize is that taking care of yourself the best that you can is probably a great way to get the MOST out of life while you're still here. This shyt ain't about living FOREVER in these bodies, it's about being able to live to the FULLEST in these bodies.

As those great Prophets of Rock DEF LEPPARD once said: "It's better to BURN OUT, than to fade awayyyyyyy...".:rockon:

Our enjoyment of this life, and our overall satisfaction with it, would surely be better served by doing the best that we can with whatever it is that we've got-----physically, mentally, financially, spiritually, or what-have-you. This is how a man avoids a so-called "slump", or at least minimizes it's length.

I believe that I'm on the right path, for ME...despite what others may say to the contrary. And I have enough tangible proof NOW to have confidence enough to STAY on the road that I have chosen...as I continue to----


------MARCH ON.

You know what's funny. Even back at my 5 year reunion (were talking 23 year olds) I was seeing the same signs of some of my classmates looking much older and gaining weight. At a separate time while I was only 28, I got the story of "needing to settle, date in my age, blah blah, from a 23 year old girl I knew. This matrix stuff starts early with most people and other's will enforce it no matter how preposterious their basis is.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Keto,

What you've noticed yourself is definitely TRUE. And I'd venture to say that I've also noticed more than a few people as I go about my daily life who, AFTER they have "settled down" or gotten married-------IMMEDIATELY put on weight and start looking more like their OWN fathers and mothers. lol

This is NOT true for everybody of course, but it is true enough to warrant a justifiable concern over people GLADLY settling into slumps. In fact, I once dated a bombshell, brickhouse-built nurse who once told me; "VU, I can't wait til' the day I get married, THEN I won't have to diet and watch what I eat so much anymore----because I'll ALREADY be married so it won't matter so much anymore."

And let's be clear, WOMEN are not the only ones who think this way. Many a Sports Bar is crowded with formerly athletic guys sitting at tables with their bellies hanging between their legs. lol

Well anyway, the nurse-babe and I had a whirlwind romance that lasted a whole MONTH. Then I saw her again 7 years later and AFTER she had actually gotten married to the same guy she was strung out on when I first met her. And needless to say…seeing her again made me GLAD I’m still SINGLE. lol

 

[Mr. Wise]

In addition, I'm not just talking about working out. When I say healthy lifestyle, I mean be active in your hobbies such as weight lifting, running, biking, hiking, diving, surfing, skiing or whatever floats your boat - make it fun and it's not a workout but "playtime". Also and most important, eat good clean foods and MAKE it a lifestyle. My workout buddy is 38 and he's actually trying to GAIN weight. He's already lean and wants to put on lean muscle mass. Furthermore, you should see his chick - 31, pretty with smoking curves.

 

[MikeYikes122]

Here's my advice: Stay fit throughout your lifetime by adapting to a healthy lifestyle and you'll never get into a slump. I see no problem with fit guys in their 50's getting 30 something hotties without a problem. You're allowed to settle down in your 60's if you want to.

That's great advice. I have friends younger than me and my age who have already let themselves go completely. They are doomed. I think one of the biggest challenges a guy in his mid-20s faces is to keep himself from getting gross and out of shape as his metabolism slows down.

My dad is 53 and he is a fvcking machine. He runs two or three times a week and lifts weights twice a week. He looks like he is about 35 or 36. All my friends (girls) are always all into him. That is why I don't have a hard time believing some of the older guys on here, like jophil, when they say they get girls who are in their late 20s/early 30s.

 

[Juando]

Adding my .02...

I was athletic in HS and kept fit by doing and ENJOYING a lot of activities, which I won't go into detail about here, but just to give an example I've done serious bike tours with women in their 20's who really wanted to but struggled to keep up; some of them watched as I ocean swam in winter, no wetsuit.

Not bragging just for you guys as proof that it's very doable, keeping mentally, physically, and psychologically fit, especially if you can make it rewarding and fun.

Coming out of an LTR, it's a mixed bag for me. I have what it takes and I have the libido and drive and all, almost no problem attracting women and getting to first base. But being rusty from no practice during LTR I suffer some of the same frustrations following through, closing that younger guys do and for me now being older I'm in a learning mode about how to hook up with younger women.

Honestly I prefer younger women. Occasionally I'll meet an older woman who 's just fine, no apologies, but a hot younger woman is appealing hands down so much more of the time.

So here I am at an advanced age, luckily with a good constitution, in dj school learning the ropes just like you whippersnappers, but with a twist.

Dream on if you live in America. If you move to the right place you can get a lot of 19 year olds at 55 if you have the right credentials. I see it every Saturday at the mall.

Where are you? South America?


Interesting: while I was typing here my cel rang. Early 20's very hot thing telling me she's free to hook up with me day after tomorrow. Just what I needed. I know, I know, gotta be my own man but nothing like positive reinforcement.:cheer:

 

[STR8UP]

I watched my dad go through it when he was just a little older than I am now.

His depression was brought on by financial problems. My parents lost everything and it took them awhile to dig themselves out. He went through a good ten year slump, but now he's in his 60's and he seems to get happier every day.

I think a lot of it has to do with seeing your kids growing up to be decent people. And not to mention that they LIVE for the grandkids.

 

[guru1000]

As you age, your testosterone and Growth hormone levels decline. This starts to occur for a man between the ages of 25 and 35.

Testosterone, the dominant male hormone, is directly responsible for the Masculine attributes in a Man. If anyone has ever cycled they know when testosterone production ceases and without post-cycle treatment, the testosterone levels are between 0-150. In this state, not only are you emotional because of the elevated estrogen , but you lose your drive, libido, and masculine energy. When testosterone levels are high , anywhere above 750+, you are full of life, very driven, and full of masculine energy.

The key in successful interaction is ZESTFUL communication. Very hard to achieve this with LOW testosterone. Having low testosterone is one of the primary reasons why some people can never MASTER the art of communication.This is the secret INGREDIENT to successful plate interaction. Every woman wants to be around a communicator who can enhance her mood. This is key and most often overlooked. Those with high T levels can relate.

Another primary hormone is GROWTH HORMONE. In a nutshell, GH does not enhance your LIBIDO in the state testosterone does. However, anyone with elevated GH levels will have a state of well being, look relatively younger, good hair and skin, great blood flow, lower cortisol (stress hormone), leaner, more vascular and an elevated mood to say the least.

These hormones keep you young and full of life.

The only thing besides therapy and manipulation of diet to keep these levels high is a good work out routine. This is the essense of YOUTH. That is why you can see a 50 year old man appear younger than a 25 year old. Not in physical appearance, but in interaction. This is also the reason why older men with higher hormone levels will CONSISTENTLY pick up younger women.

This also explains why you see a lower income older guy with a 6 in the looks department with a hot young girl. You cannot understand women, until you understand interaction. Communication is the single most powerful element in results, whether it's a billion dollar merger or picking up the HB10. Communication is also most overlooked. For any GURU in sales, which is my fortei; this becomes the unequivocal truth. My communication is at its best when my T and GH levels are at their highest, as per blood tests.

DJ'ing is spoken about in psychology terms. The true Don Juan masters the art of communication. It is not what you say, but how you say it.

Age is a number. Your hormone levels will inevitably determine your age and communication skills.

 

[Mr.Positive]

I know that this is LIFE, and nobody gets out of it ALIVE. But I'll be damned if I go quietly into that good night (the life of complacency that leads to early and UNNECESSARY decay).

VU, great post. What I find amazing is that at 34 years old, I am stronger physically, and mentally, that I've ever been in my whole life.

I've heard that testosterone and GH decline, but I have not seen it. I go to the gym now, as I have been for the past 10+ years, but I lift more weight, and feel better. In fact, I am more focused now, than ever before..and actually, my libido is stronger now, than ever before as well.

For the young guys, keep that fire burning that's your focus. Don't get complacent. People get old when they give up.

There are no rules in life other than the rules we make for ourselves.

 

[Juando]

As you age, your testosterone and Growth hormone levels decline. This starts to occur for a man between the ages of 25 and 35.

Testosterone, the dominant male hormone, is directly responsible for the Masculine attributes in a Man. If anyone has ever cycled they know when testosterone production ceases and without post-cycle treatment, the testosterone levels are between 0-150. In this state, not only are you emotional because of the elevated estrogen , but you lose your drive, libido, and masculine energy. When testosterone levels are high , anywhere above 750+, you are full of life, very driven, and full of masculine energy.

The key in successful interaction is ZESTFUL communication. Very hard to achieve this with LOW testosterone. Having low testosterone is one of the primary reasons why some people can never MASTER the art of communication.This is the secret INGREDIENT to successful plate interaction. Every woman wants to be around a communicator who can enhance her mood. This is key and most often overlooked. Those with high T levels can relate.

Another primary hormone is GROWTH HORMONE. In a nutshell, GH does not enhance your LIBIDO in the state testosterone does. However, anyone with elevated GH levels will have a state of well being, look relatively younger, good hair and skin, great blood flow, lower cortisol (stress hormone), leaner, more vascular and an elevated mood to say the least.

These hormones keep you young and full of life.

The only thing besides therapy and manipulation of diet to keep these levels high is a good work out routine. This is the essense of YOUTH. That is why you can see a 50 year old man appear younger than a 25 year old. Not in physical appearance, but in interaction. This is also the reason why older men with higher hormone levels will CONSISTENTLY pick up younger women.

This also explains why you see a lower income older guy with a 6 in the looks department with a hot young girl. You cannot understand women, until you understand interaction. Communication is the single most powerful element in results, whether it's a billion dollar merger or picking up the HB10. Communication is also most overlooked. For any GURU in sales, which is my fortei; this becomes the unequivocal truth. My communication is at its best when my T and GH levels are at their highest, as per blood tests.

DJ'ing is spoken about in psychology terms. The true Don Juan masters the art of communication. It is not what you say, but how you say it.

Age is a number. Your hormone levels will inevitably determine your age and communication skills.

You sound like you know what you're talking about, Guru: very informative.

I'm still waiting for the "decline"; when is it coming?

The main thing that stops me or slows me down, when it happens, is peer pressure, people's negativity, judgments, and shaming.

Most of the time I feel happy to be alive, love being active, learning new things, and now that I'm LTR-free, like a kid in the candy store when it comes to women.

I'll take my decline gracefully when it comes, tomorrow/ten years-whatever,
but until then, lock up your women.

Many of the people who get to know me ask me what my "secret" is.
My secret is both simple and complex (complex when you get down to nuts and bolts about things like nutrition). I tell tell them that my lifestyle has been a life-long pursuit which I'm willing to share to whatever extent they can benefit from and incorporate into their routine.

Very very few have ever taken me up on it.

It's almost as if part of them is thinking, "Nah, too much work. Besides, it's probably just good genes".

That's ok, their loss, our gain.

 

[guru1000]

You sound like you know what you're talking about, Guru: very informative.

I'm still waiting for the "decline"; when is it coming?

The main thing that stops me or slows me down, when it happens, is peer pressure, people's negativity, judgments, and shaming.

Most of the time I feel happy to be alive, love being active, learning new things, and now that I'm LTR-free, like a kid in the candy store when it comes to women.

I'll take my decline gracefully when it comes, tomorrow/ten years-whatever,
but until then, lock up your women.

Many of the people who get to know me ask me what my "secret" is.
My secret is both simple and complex (complex when you get down to nuts and bolts about things like nutrition). I tell tell them that my lifestyle has been a life-long pursuit which I'm willing to share to whatever extent they can benefit from and incorporate into their routine.

Very very few have ever taken me up on it.

It's almost as if part of them is thinking, "Nah, too much work. Besides, it's probably just good genes".

That's ok, their loss, our gain.

Hey Juando,

Im glad to see you are hitting those HOT plates.

My work out partner is a 53 year old man. He is also in Men's Fitness magazines. Average in the looks department but he has an UNBELIEVABLE physique. Needless to say, he has a YOUTHFUL demeanor, full of LIFE. His gf is a 25 year old model, HB10. I do quite well and he says he wants to teach me a thing or two.

Morty Davis, 72 year old, top notch investment banker on Wall Street. He has the demeanor and vigor of a 30 year old HOT SHOT broker.

Keep up the good work!

 

[lookyoung]

As you age, your testosterone and Growth hormone levels decline. This starts to occur for a man between the ages of 25 and 35.

Testosterone, the dominant male hormone, is directly responsible for the Masculine attributes in a Man. If anyone has ever cycled they know when testosterone production ceases and without post-cycle treatment, the testosterone levels are between 0-150. In this state, not only are you emotional because of the elevated estrogen , but you lose your drive, libido, and masculine energy. When testosterone levels are high , anywhere above 750+, you are full of life, very driven, and full of masculine energy.

The key in successful interaction is ZESTFUL communication. Very hard to achieve this with LOW testosterone. Having low testosterone is one of the primary reasons why some people can never MASTER the art of communication.This is the secret INGREDIENT to successful plate interaction. Every woman wants to be around a communicator who can enhance her mood. This is key and most often overlooked. Those with high T levels can relate.

Another primary hormone is GROWTH HORMONE. In a nutshell, GH does not enhance your LIBIDO in the state testosterone does. However, anyone with elevated GH levels will have a state of well being, look relatively younger, good hair and skin, great blood flow, lower cortisol (stress hormone), leaner, more vascular and an elevated mood to say the least.

These hormones keep you young and full of life.

The only thing besides therapy and manipulation of diet to keep these levels high is a good work out routine. This is the essense of YOUTH. That is why you can see a 50 year old man appear younger than a 25 year old. Not in physical appearance, but in interaction. This is also the reason why older men with higher hormone levels will CONSISTENTLY pick up younger women.

This also explains why you see a lower income older guy with a 6 in the looks department with a hot young girl. You cannot understand women, until you understand interaction. Communication is the single most powerful element in results, whether it's a billion dollar merger or picking up the HB10. Communication is also most overlooked. For any GURU in sales, which is my fortei; this becomes the unequivocal truth. My communication is at its best when my T and GH levels are at their highest, as per blood tests.

DJ'ing is spoken about in psychology terms. The true Don Juan masters the art of communication. It is not what you say, but how you say it.

Age is a number. Your hormone levels will inevitably determine your age and communication skills.

This post is golden and I could not agree more. To be honest I am very interested in taking HGH when I am about 40. The experts say they don't know the long term effects yet but we will know much more within the next 10-15 years. I am tempted to do it now but I still feel very good physically,so don't want to risk getting cancer being that I am in great health.

 

[Mr. Wise]

He did it. Why can't you?

http://www.bodybuilders.com/kentw.htm