Mid Life Crisis- for the older posters

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As I was just listening to a classic by Jerry Lee Lewis called, "Middle Aged Crazy" I asked myself this question as I am on the back side of thirty: Is Mid Life Crisis real?

My thoughts that they most certainly are and unfortunately I hit it about 4 years ago. I got a divorce around that time as well. I started playing the field again and made some stupid mistakes. You know the falling in love $hit with wrong type of woman.

I went out and bought a convertible sports car a year and a half ago; but I would like to think it was because I like convertibles and fast cars. But I am not sure if I did this because of my "crisis" or not. I have always tried to dress stylish enough so that really has not been a part.

Jerry Lee Lewis was never really my thing, but this song is absolutely great and I sure as hell relate with most of it. Shame is that the younger guys and kids never heard of Jerry or this song. For those out there that believe or disbelieve, let me know.

I never thought the age thing would get to me, but at times it does..... Guess it beats the alternative.
 

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The concept of a mid-life crisis is a female shaming tactic. All you're doing is flaunting your true earned value to the opposite sex. Anyone who shames you for doing so is either jealous or afraid of being left in the dust.
 

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LeftyLoosey said:
The concept of a mid-life crisis is a female shaming tactic. All you're doing is flaunting your true earned value to the opposite sex. Anyone who shames you for doing so is either jealous or afraid of being left in the dust.
Funny, you answered my post the same time I did yours. In all seriousness, I think it is real man! When I was your age, not a problem and then at 35 it suddenly hit me as I was unhappily married, but it has gotten worse as I near 40.
 

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SoldMySoul said:
Funny, you answered my post the same time I did yours. In all seriousness, I think it is real man! When I was your age, not a problem and then at 35 it suddenly hit me as I was unhappily married, but it has gotten worse as I near 40.
If anyone should be having mid-life crises, it's women, because their value has fallen of a cliff. This is also known as the "Wile E. Coyote" moment.

As a man, your value is generally inversely proportional to your age. If it isn't, then you need to focus on your career and personal goals outside of relationships with women. Everything else will follow.
 

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LeftyLoosey said:
If anyone should be having mid-life crises, it's women, because their value has fallen of a cliff. This is also known as the "Wile E. Coyote" moment.

As a man, your value is generally inversely proportional to your age. If it isn't, then you need to focus on your career and personal goals outside of relationships with women. Everything else will follow.

When it hit me I was in a pretty good career and starting a business... That all of course fell apart. As a result of many things in my life, I have taken dating and seeing women off the table. That is not a big part of the issue anymore. I am more concerned with getting myself back to pretty damn good and not really concerned with women.
 

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as a single man who is now 36 (birthday last week), I'll say this for the whole car and younger girlfriend mid life crisis...for most working class, barely middle class guys like myself 40 is when I'll have the money and the house and the sports car and the ability to go on trips and vacations and what not. Even when reading Think and Grow Rich, Napoleon Hill talks about how most men don't reach their apex in their careers until the 40 year mark. It's when knowledge wisdom and understanding along with work ethic and personal skills all come together. Women hate that, what else would you expect to them to call it? Middle age Awesome? No...I think not.
 

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Personally, I've always thought that those who experience a mid-life crisis are waking up. They've spent the early years of their lives doing what society has told them to do without question (i.e. "grow up", get married, have kids, etc.). Then they realize they're going to die one day and they haven't done anything *they* like to do. So they buy fast cars, etc.

And who cares? It's your money, it's your life, and someday you'll be dead. Enjoy it while you can.
 

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High Voltage said:
Personally, I've always thought that those who experience a mid-life crisis are waking up. They've spent the early years of their lives doing what society has told them to do without question (i.e. "grow up", get married, have kids, etc.). Then they realize they're going to die one day and they haven't done anything *they* like to do. So they buy fast cars, etc.

And who cares? It's your money, it's your life, and someday you'll be dead. Enjoy it while you can.
That is a pretty interesting way of looking at it; that's for sure!

I do not regret trying to maintain my youth and have done fairly well for the most part. I only regret my car purchase because of unseen circumstances two weeks after buying it (was involved in a wreck at work and lost my job while being out), otherwise I do know the feeling of the middle age crisis, or shall I say event.
 

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High Voltage said:
Personally, I've always thought that those who experience a mid-life crisis are waking up.
Where is the alleged "crisis" ? It is more like a mid-life awakening to the realization that your life belongs to YOU.
You are not some woman's pack mule or personal man-servant, nor are you a slave to your bratty children's whims or you boss's demands. Neither are you obligated to tip toe though life hoping that you never upset women in word or deed.

Do you think Clint had a "mid-life crisis" for pete's sake?
 

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I have a different perspective on this than most of you, since it was a mid life crisis that brought me to this forum. I was getting close to my 49th birthday and was going through a rough patch. I started thinking about how I was almost 50, and I started to wonder if I was losing my sexual value. I had always viewed my age and maturity as an advantage with women, but had I now crossed a line where I was no longer the sexy mature man, but just "the old guy"?

THAT is what a mid life crisis is. It's about coming to terms with your mortality, and transitioning into another phase of your life. It's about losing your youth. It's not about feminine shaming or buying convertibles. Buying a cool sports car would just be a SYMPTOM of a mid life crisis. It's trying to hang onto your youth, trying to prove to yourself that you've still "got it".

I pulled out of my crisis fairly quickly. I realized that I haven't crossed the Rubicon yet and that I can still attract women. I may have to face that point again in the coming years though.

SoldMySoul, I notice you are 39. Just as I was approaching 49 when I had my crisis. Is part of the problem that you realize you're about to turn 40? There's a difference in self image as a guy in your 30s as opposed to a guy in your 40s. Just like being in your 50s brings to mind other images.

Good news is I thought the 40s were great, and I didn't feel much different than I did in my 30s. Being in your 30s is actually a little young to have a mid life crisis, but there was a point when I was about 36 when I realized my body wasn't as resilient as it used to be. Anyway, at 39 don't sweat it, take it from me, you've got some very good years left.
 

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A man's "mid life crisis" is his natural reaction to his mate's ending of fertility. His body reacts in a specific measurable way causing him to put on the behaviors once again to attract fertile females. This is why men who aren't with women don't go through it as they age and act the same way they always have.

Next time you hear about a guy going through one, look at his wife and I will bet you dollars to donuts she just hit her fertility's Wild E Coyote moment.
 

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"....As a man, your value is generally inversely proportional to your age. ...."

Not necessarily. It depends on how you've taken care of yourself, and your general attitude to life. Most men decrease in value, same as women. It's called aging.
 

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Next time you hear about a guy going through one, look at his wife and I will bet you dollars to donuts she just hit her fertility's Wild E Coyote moment.
That definitely was not the case with me. When I started going through my mid life crisis moment, my girlfriend was only 33. She's not my wife, but we live together. I don't want children though. As I said, for me the crisis was related to getting older and whatever change of self image that might entail.

Most men decrease in value, same as women. It's called aging.
Yeah, to some extent LeftyLoosey is right that you gain value as you get older. That's been my experience anyway. But at a certain point you are going to start to drop in value. The term "geriatric" is not usally associated with being sexy.
 

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zekko said:
my girlfriend was only 33.
Nope, she's in the right age bracket for the WEC moment. If you'd said she was 23 then you might have something. Women in their 30s & 40s are generally hitting the wall, but it's really subjective when it occurs. Regardless, men dating women in their 20s just don't experience a "mid life crisis". Again, the behaviors men demonstrate in the context of this thread are directly related to the fertility of the women they're pair bonded with. It's only been in the last couple years researchers have even started recognizing all this.
 

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the behaviors men demonstrate in the context of this thread are directly related to the fertility of the women they're pair bonded with.
I could see how this would be the case, but in my situation I don't really think it had anything to do with it. She definitely has not entered menopause anyway. For me, it was all about MY age, not hers.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Do you have children with her? Kids complicate the typical mid-life crisis, and the decisions involved.

I have no kids period!!! That could be a good thing depending on how you look at it. Then of course last year I had a woman I loved spring on me a that she had an abortion with my child a few years before.

In a sense I regret not having kids and the abortion tale whether true or not reinforces that feeling along with some bitterness.

Like I said, the event or crisis or whatever you call has more elements involved than just my sexual value. At this age I should be established; but I have hit hard times and it is tough to deal with.
 

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As the "young'un" among people on this thread, let me venture out with an opinion.

I think the "mid-life crisis" is a result of running out of pre-determined purpose in life, i.e. running out of things that you're "supposed" to be doing.

When you're young, the next steps of your life are typically pretty obvious and well-defined. When you're a child, you're taught to go to school and get good marks so you can go to college. So you put a lot of zeal into that kind of stuff. Then when you get to college, you focus your energy into getting to the next step...getting good marks, a degree, and getting a job in the business world. Then once you get into business and start making money, you're going for a few big promotions. Then once you get those, you're supposed to start putting your energy into finding a mate and getting married. Then getting a house. Then having kids. Then raising those kids.

The big point is...for the vast majority of people, there's no "next step". The educational challenge built toward the professional challenge, the professional challenge built toward the self-reliance challenge, the self-reliance challenge built toward the family challenge. Then you reproduce and you start to think, "what was THIS challenge building toward??"

There's really no clear answer to that question for most people. It's around that age, around the 40s, when the kids are grown up enough to not require constant supervision, that a man starts asking himself, "what is the POINT of my life??"

It's almost like some of the free-roaming video games that we grow up playing these days...after you beat the "final boss", the game kind of dumps you off back into its 'world', but without a lack of clearly defined objectives. The idea is that you can still explore all of the mini-games and continue to upgrade your character and discover new things, but since there is no clear objective you're building toward, it's all kind of "hollow".

Some people respond to this time in life with a "mid-life crisis", when they finally decide to try and do all the things they wanted to do when they were young, now that they have the financial means to do so. Thus, the sports car, the adventures, the young women.

Some people respond by finding ways to "keep busy". My folks seem to be running in an endless cycle of fixing up their house. Once one room is fixed up, they move to the next one, and the next one, and so on until they're all done...by then the first room is "worn" enough that it's time for another renovation.

Some people just settle down and rot. Almost as if the "next challenge" is preparing to die.

Some people embrace faith and religion and start looking to the afterlife as a "next challenge".

I'm going to be 31 in about a week, and I feel like I've been in something of a "mid-life crisis" since maybe 27. I know you old codgers will laugh at that, but as a result of not buying into the whole girlfriend/marriage/kids thing, I've hit the "what is this life about" crisis a little early.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still like to experience all that if I can find a woman I can really "click" with, but I've had a lot of time to think, and because I got started late in the "dating game", I didn't have the huge libido driving me to hasty decisions regarding marriage and relationships. I saw the people around me rushing into that kind of crap simply for lack of anything better to do and decided, "Nah, that's not for me. Not unless I REALLY like spending time with someone". I thought I had found "someone" a couple of times, but nothing ever came of it...they could tell I wasn't buying into it hook/line/sinker and the lack of blind commitment to "the program" bothered them.

So now that the family-path has become an optional activity, rather than a mandate, in my mind, I'm at the same kind of place in my life.

I could look at a "career move", sure. I mean, there's still upward mobility where I work, but I've been looking ahead and seeing how the people in positions above me suffer emotionally and mentally because of their jobs, all for what are really modest increases in pay. I make more than a LOT of people in life at this point and, while there's still room for advancement, the pay increases here are modest and the job satisfaction paltry for the amount of life stress you take on.

So I'm left asking myself the same question...is what's left of my life just a long period of preparation and/or time-killing until I eventually die? And if so, what was all that nonsense before-hand building to? The schooling? The job?

Some people find purpose in helping other people...I see that as the "blind leading the blind". Everyone seems to suffer from the same lack of a sense of purpose...and those who give to others seem to be only facilitating others' arrival at a lack of purpose one day, or their ability to ignore it looming over them.

I can't say the way I've responded to my so-called "crisis" is healthy...I've taken my time to watch how other people deal with it, and I find they go out of their ways to remain ignorant, or seek out a "program" created by someone else, propping up something trivial as "greater than themselves".

I've reached a point where the entire human race disgusts me...they're all morons running around doing all they can to refuse to face the question of "purpose", refuse to question their own existence or to accept that maybe their paltry achievements DON'T make them worth more than any other lifeform. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague.

And what makes me sickest of all is the unavoidable fact that I'm one of them...and that despite all of my insight and knowledge as a sentient creature on this globe, I don't have an answer either. I can't seem to figure out what it is I'm supposed to be doing here, what's "important" in this world, what I've been building myself to all this life, and what, most importantly, is worth dying for, worth wasting the precious remaining 40-odd years of my life doing...or worth sacrificing those years to accomplish.

LOL...how can I ever get married or have children?? I hate human beings...and they want me to bring MORE of them into this world?? I can't even pretend that mine would be somehow "better" than the rest, because I can't even evolve beyond the filth that is humanity MYSELF.

I need to just move to a shack in the wilderness and start mailing bombs to people. :mad:
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midlife_crisis

Some psychologists believe men's midlife crisis is a psychological reaction to the imminent menopause and end of reproductive career of their spouses. Their genes may be influencing men to be more attracted to reproductive women, and less attached to their non-reproductive spouses.


http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article5815340.ece

The male midlife crisis is often described as the moment a man realises that if he doesn't get a Harley, a hair transplant or a divorce right now he probably never will. For some men this “crisis” frequently coincides with a cataclysmic life event - the death of a parent, redundancy or illness. Some men see the dark at the end of the tunnel in a flash. Others hit the wall in slow motion, thanks to a combination of family and financial pressures.
It's only recent research that's pinpointing the end of female fertility as the "cataclysmic life event" triggering the behavioral changes described above. Other factors can influence it, but it's that fertility issue that's most common.
 

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LOL! My younger friends tease me about it but, hey, I can now afford the toys I always wanted when I was a kid so of course I'm gonna get them!
 
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