I had this same stance right here on the forum before I even met my wife. Doesn’t really have anything to do with her or where I am in life right now.
Yeah and MGTOW didn’t really exist back then, so this point is moot.
Amante, everything else you said is you framing the same MGTOW principles in a ‘pick yourself up by the bootstraps’ kind of way while saying that it isn’t MGTOW. Then you bring your own conflicting paradigms to ‘prove’ to us that it’s true.
Exhibit A:
I didn’t get married until I was 46. It wasn’t because women suck. It wasn’t because of the laws. It wasn’t because I am against marriage. It was because I had standards and screened ruthlessly until someone fit the bill, and I would have gone to my grave single if I didn’t.
“It took me 46 years, but I found someone great and you can too! You just gotta keep looking.”
Yes, it may have taken me 46 years to get married, but I didn’t spend 46 years looking for a wife. I didn’t even entertain so much as a fleeting thought about it until I was 36. I didn’t think about it because I was out there living, traveling, trying new things, experiencing life in so many ways that settling down wasn’t even in my head.
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I spent zero seconds in my first 36 years on this planet thinking, “This one isn’t wife material! What a wh0re!” They we’re merely toys. Fun bags. I had a mission. They were nothing more that the occasional break. I loved them. Enjoyed them. I worried about nothing mgtow men alter their life over.
“Well I didn’t actually look all my life, I just messed around with them till I was getting older and my band couldn’t get me any more hot babes. Once I did start actively looking, I found one (after 10 years)!”
It’s not hard to find someone when you’re not looking for or need someone who does it all.
“In fact, I didn’t even really look for a good quality woman at all, and THAT is when I found one. It’s always
easy to find the right someone when you aren’t looking for them, isn’t it?”
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Pretty ironic to say the least.
Based off these posts, you can say that either you screened super hard and found the right woman after over a decade (or several) of searching, or you just happened to find one through luck. Or perhaps both.
You’re also forgetting to mention a lot of other important facts here:
- You already had a boatload of experience with women due to having dreamy bad boy status from playing in a band.
- This means that you already knew/understood how female nature was, unlike most men (since they did not have that experience).
- You didn’t start to get serious till after the age most men get divorced.
- This means that not only did you have a lot of sexual experience that allowed you to understand the nature of women, but you had also likely witnessed a lot of marriages that turned sour and ended in divorce [rape].
- It also means you were around a lot of women who were going through a midlife crisis, many of whom were likely willing to cheat on their husbands with you, making it easy for you to see how risky marriage is.
- You yourself never expected to find a good woman; if you did, you never would have had a child with a woman you knew you would have to cut off at some point
- The fact that you even had to carefully plan out your steps 5 years in advance so as to not get screwed over in the court of law WHEN things went south (not if, WHEN...) is asinine as it is. But if that’s not enough, you explicitly stated in one of the above quotes that you were willing to die single if a woman didn’t measure up to your standards. I don’t know about you, but to me and the rest of us, that sounds like someone who knows how bad the female dating market is.
- Lastly, we’ve all seen your pics bro. No homo or anything, but you’re honestly a very good-looking dude, far above average. Most dudes aren’t a 8 or 9 in looks. That alone puts you in the top 10% of men.
It’s easy to look down on others and shout ‘common sense’ at them if they had all the experiences you had, I mean anyone in your shoes would consider this stuff as ‘common sense’. But the fact is, not all of us have been in your shoes. Most men are like those dudes who ended up getting divorced and shafted in court while wishing they were still single like you. By the looks of it, you really did just get lucky in the gamble of life. Unless you planned all of this stuff out at the age of 10 or something. Not saying you didn’t work hard, I don’t know you to judge. But overall, you seem to be forgetting a lot of circumstance. And like
@corrector said, no one plans to have a child without the mother involved, most people get married in order to have kids in the first place to create the best environment for their kids. You are DEFINITELY an outlier in your experiences bro
Edit: oh yeah I forgot to mention—the fact that your now-wife actually refused to take alimony payments from her former spouse is evidence enough that your case, the woman you’re with, etc. is not the norm. All the other stuff I mentioned is just extra. I don’t think there’s a woman alive who would refuse alimony except maybe your woman. So yeah. Just another reason to show how you’re life is an outlier compared to most.
My inner being is operating on a completely different wavelength.
You totally stole this from
@stormrider lol
