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Pimp-sicle

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Your doing pretty well, however here are a few pointers to improve your game:

-Stop saying things like "your bailing on me again" "the question is will you be there" etc..... even if you put a "ha ha or lol" after, its still coming from lack of confidence. In other words, stop trying to constantly seek re-assurance, that's a form of neediness and its definitely not attractive.

-Stop getting so fuvkin' drunk at these parties!! A few drinks to loosen up and have a nice buzz.. then stop drinking. That way you won't be nervous, but you won't be hammered.

-YOU HAVE TO ESCALATE, ESPECIALLY when your in her bed!!! Now you've got some good rapport with her, so this isn't a deal-breaker, but if you have the opportunity to kiss her or fuvk her again....YOU BETTER MAKE A MOVE, unless you won't this girl to disappear.


Don't be nervous...don't be worried. She likes you, its obvious! Be confident in yourself, you have great conversation skills and your witty. Just kill the bit of neediness in you and make her chase you.




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TheBucketOfTruth

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You slept with her in her bed and didn't escalate? Come on man. I'm not saying you should have loud sex with people in the room, but you could have made out under the covers pretty safely.
 

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Sorry fellas I've been busy. Don't worry I didn't disappoint. She's definitely into me...i shouldve made a move the night I stayed in her bed but I wasn't 100% sure she was into me yet (major sticking point btw). even so, it would have been on like donkey kong if we were alone but i just felt weird with other people in the room and it was 6:30 AM so i passed out.

We went home yesterday and she invited me to a movie...(Haunting of Connecticut - and its horrible)...i walked her to her car and she drove me to mine, we talked for a while in the parking lot and I finally got the balls to kiss her. we made out for a bit and that was that. we're both at home for easter break so there was nowhere to really do anything.

she wanted me to come to a baseball game with her today, our minor league team had a home game so we went to that. had a good time, teasing her etc. and a couple pretty deep convos. drove her back home, we made out for a bit, and i left. got back about 20 mins ago.

she seems like a really cool girl...conversations went well, no weird awkward silences and i had her laughing. i won't be seeing her for a few weeks so we'll keep in touch and see where it goes. one issue is that it seems like she's still hung up on her ex of 4 years so I'm not trying to get too involved with her. how would you guys get around this? i made sure not to say anything about him and change the subject when i could, but i'm not sure where he is at in her life right now and i don't want to waste my time if i'm just going to end up being LJBFed for the same shmuck she apparently always runs back to (who used to hit her by the way, this guys a real winner)


i really appreciate the help guys, i can tell i'm really making progress.
 
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alright since i'm still a novice and my game isn't 100% on point yet I'm gonna post a convo we had after we got back from the game last night. please let me know how yall think i did and what i can improve on.

she had to drive back to school last night right after i dropped her off since she had to work, and was gonna be by herself in her dorm all last night studying for some 'test' she had to take at her job today.

quick recap:
-we met up late thursday night (she was at another school about 2 hrs ago getting in a fight with her ex boyfriend...red flag i know, that's why im not expecting much out of this).
-me and my buddy ended up staying with her and her roommate.
-i stayed in her bed but didnt make a move.
-we all went out to breakfast the next day
-she texts me out of the blue friday night and invites me to a movie. we go, talk for about an hour afterwards in her car and makeout for a little bit.
-she asked if i wanted to go to a baseball game with her on saturday if i wasnt busy...i made her sweat for a bit then accepted. we went to the game, had a good time, talked pretty much the whole time. i drive her back home, we makeout for a second and then she has to go.
-i told her i was goin out and to text me if she got bored. she hit me up about 1 this morning when i was chillin at my buddies place.



her: is it a good time to take you up on that offer? lol :)

me: ha i guess i could spare you some of my time hows the studying

her: lol well if you're busy its ok. but it sucks and its scary bein in my room all alone. no one is here.

me: nah i can multitask but its hard havin to beat all these women off with a stick and txt at the same time. put on some music and start singing that should scare anyone off :)
((((she mentioned earlier she liked to sing all the time but wasn't any good))))

her: haha sure mr. ****y are we? dont let me distract u ;) and haha real funny but there is no one here to scare away. im all alone. and its kinda creepy all alone.

me: na i followed you im lookin thru the window
((((i had already teased her about following her home the first night we went out, she has had a lot of creepers stalkin her and told me a bunch of stories about that))))

her: creeper. what did u use your rope ladder to climb up to the 3rd floor? lol. and if u really were lookin it would be bad bc i'm in my bra and underwear lol
((((i mistakenly passed up a a few cues she gave me to start talking about sex when we were together in person so i knew i HAD to do somethin here))))

me: Yea i was about to say im gettin pretty bored here in this tree.. go ahead and slip out of that

her: haha. ur dumb. :) my goodies, not urs :p and i don't wanna make you fall out of the tree and hurt urself from excitement

me: psh whatever its gonna take a lot more than that to make me fall out of a tree i am not some piece of meat woman

her: oh really? so ur an ******* and hard to please i see. climb on down then and come on in ;) haha jk i'm def. not a slut. and i don't think ur a piece of meat.

me: haha look at lil _____ tryin to talk a big game. listen i already got enough girls tryin to use me for my body i dont need another. gosh its so degrading

her: lol u are so ****y. i got plenty of guys wantin me..hell i probably do really have one lookin at me now since i attract creepers. but serious note (very rare so pay attention)...ur bodies not that great. u got big ears and girl legs :) hahaha
((((whenever i'd tease her about anything, her being short, etc. she would neg be back about these))))

me: o man wait til your friends find out you are lusting after a dude with girl legs!

her: haha who said i was lustin after u? don't flatter yourself now lil ___ ___ ___ ((((my full name...i guess she was mirroring me here? i had just called her "lil :her name: earlier)))). i think ur the one who made all the moves not me lol

me: yea when u were in your bed tellin yourself "man i hope he gets in bed with me" you were actually sayin it outloud. so i felt like i had to you know

her: haha right. no i was tellin myself o great now i have to sleep in the crack against the wall lol. but its ok im a nice person and i let u stay :). u should feel special

me: psh i always feel special. but youre welcome for makin a move i know u would have felt terrible if i didnt so i had to force myself :)
((((eh could have done better here, in my defense i was tired haha))))

her: haha ur an *******. u know u wanted to. but im hittin the bed. im so tired. goodnight. thanks for a fun weekend :)

me: yea i had a good time enjoy that 12 hr shift tomorrow haha. goodnight




so that was it. we haven't talked today. (another thing i need to get over...i get paranoid when a girl goes a day without tryin to talk to me. dont worry, i don't get desperate and start contacting her, its just in my head. guess its whats left of my inner neediness.)


not sure where to go from here. there are tons of IOI's, i noticed her mirroring me, she constantly called me an ******* (in a playful way), ****y, etc...she initiated both of the dates... the 2 times we made out were not for long because both were in our cars and it was as we were about to go our separate ways. havent been in a situation with her yet where i could do much more.

about the ex-boyfriend.. dont worry i never once asked about him and i made sure to kind of blow her off every time she brought him up. from what i gathered, they broke up a few months ago. she told me that they had been together all throughout the time she was in HS...she's a freshman in college this year and he's my age, a junior. he was apparently her first in just about everything. she seemed to really try and make a point that she is the one who lost feelings. she said they never had sex the last year because she just wasn't "feeling" it with him.

she said that he is dating other girls but keeps texting her saying that he loves her and sees them being married some day, stuff like that. now if i took her word for it it'd sound like she was over him and he was being an afc. but ive noticed that the little quotes she puts on her facebook page are all about him. heres an example:

"Someday I'm gonna run across your mind, Don't worry, I'll be fine, I'm gonna be alright
While you're sleeping with your pride, Wishing I could hold you tight, I'll be over you, And on with my life.."

sounds lke shes still got feelings for him and is trying to get over him. i know she's dated a couple guys since they broke up. what am i looking at here? i feel like i'm definitely better than whoever this guy is but i know its hard for some girls to get past a relationship that lasted so long. how would you guys deal with this?



i've gotta head home for a day this weekend and her school is right on the way so i may see if she wants to get somethin to eat and stop by on the way, but im not sure yet.

do i wait for her to contact me or hit her up later on? i know i'm way overanalyzing everything but like i said i'm still new and trying to drill this **** into my brain. i'm a really funny person naturally and ive always been good at teasing girls, but other parts of the game i am not good at.



thanks in advance for anyone who decides to read this novel and give me some advice. hopefully one day when i'm on top of my game i can help guys like me out!!
 

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Good job but one word of caution. Don't be someone who talks a big game but can't back it up. I'm working on this too. The C&F is nice but if the next time you guys meet you don't come correct (ie continue to escalate), you'll just be all talk. You need to be congruent. It even sounds like she wanted you to come down during that convo. Seal the deal.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

usscrum

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^^^ appreciate it. yeah i got the "why are you so ****y?" line and thought i was overdoing it, so i said "im just messing around". OBVIOUSLY it was a **** test but I didn't realize it until after I responded. turns out her she responded with "I wish i had that kind of confidence" so im glad i didnt completely cave in. i'm working on keeping a balance between C/F, showing affection, and all that good stuff. im definitely gonna continue to escalate.

Talked to her on facebook a little bit tonight. It went well, shes really down to earth and I know she's into me...but something is bothering me. she is talking SO much about how she is not a slut. honestly she brought it up every single time we were talking in person and again like 2 times during this conversation. she says she's never had sex with a guy she wasn't dating. she also mentioned that every single boyfriend she has had has cheated on her.

whats the deal with girls who do this? I know every girl has ASD moments but there's got to be some ulterior motive here. its got me worried about escalating because it seems like she is going out of her way to tell me NOT to try and have sex with her...yet she still seems really interested in me.
 

TheBucketOfTruth

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usscrum said:
...but something is bothering me. she is talking SO much about how she is not a slut. honestly she brought it up every single time we were talking in person and again like 2 times during this conversation. she says she's never had sex with a guy she wasn't dating. she also mentioned that every single boyfriend she has had has cheated on her.

whats the deal with girls who do this? I know every girl has ASD moments but there's got to be some ulterior motive here. its got me worried about escalating because it seems like she is going out of her way to tell me NOT to try and have sex with her...yet she still seems really interested in me.
In my experience, girls who actively try to convince you they aren't sluts are usually pretty receptive to sexual advances. When a girl says these things, what she's telling you is "I'm into you; I care what you think of me."

Her saying she only hooks up with people she's in relationships with probably has something to do with why she's gotten cheated on so much. A lot of guys will just tell a woman what she wants to hear to have sex.
 

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^ good call man....the whole "i'm not a slut" thing was a sh1t test to see if i would act any differently toward her if i thought i wasn't going to get any. evidently i passed cause she wants me to come and stay with her saturday night and made a point of telling me her roommate won't be there.

not gonna lie that kind of freaks me out because i think if i go down there and beat, she's gonna immediately want to be a 'couple'. then again, i could still be writing girls long emails about how we were meant to be together, etc. etc. so i am not complaining.

looks like this plate is in full spin...time to find some more! thanks a lot for all the help guys. i have only been reading this site for about 6 weeks and i have already started noticing changes in myself. i'll keep you posted on this girl and hopefully the many to come.
 

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In my experience, conversations like yours above can either be a good thing or pretty bad.

In your case it was a good thing and it was all just taken as banter. :)

looks like you're doing good mate if she's asking you to stay at her place with no one else there :up:
 
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