Message exchang with an attention wh0re.

[SamTheHobit]

Ok so a little bit of preface..

This girl is 17.

I tried a new pickup technique just for the laughs a couple of weeks ago. One night This girl came up to me and I acted Like an afc lol (I get bored)

I had her believe I was an insecure guy that plays world of war craft on the weekends.

(Note this will not get you laid!)

Anyway got her number that night.

And the following ensued on a whatapp(Instant messaging) today.
I was mostly trolling but I honestly believe what I said to be true.

I know it's a long read but would appreciate some thoughts.


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Her whatapp status -
"Ill be yours if you act like a man"

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Sam-
How does someone act like a man?

Fem-
He needs to have confidence but don't confuse it with having a big ego because that comes from insecurity , masculine, have manners, be able to protect a woman, like able to fight for you. Protective but not over protective, and be humble.

Sam-
Oh everything I'm not.

I read in a article that real men cry.. Is there any truth to this?

Fem-
Yes they do, but for things that matter

Sam-
Oh, so then I must not be a real man because I've never cried.

Maybe I'm actually a female.

Fem-
There are just too many guys that act like pmsing girls. Complete pussies and it get tiring. It'd be nice to have a guy, be a guy. Not like a 10 year old, or a teenage girl.

(10 year old boy)

You have cried before

Sam-
Not that I remember.

On the other spectrum, there are just to many attention whoring females.
And entitled biitches. Until these women stop playing their games, I'm pretty happy playing world of war craft on the weekends.

Fem-
Those females, and those males, that play games are the reason the rest of us hate society and what it's turned people into.

Were you referring to me as an entitled biitch by any chance?

Sam-
Not entitled, I don't really know you.. But to be honest you seem like you love getting as much attention as possible.
And it's hard for a quality guy to take someone like that seriously.

Fem-
Excuse me?

Attention seeking?

See this is why I regret befriending extremely insecure people. Not only are they completely rude. But they are constantly acting as if they are so fvcking smart, as if the rest of the word should kneel down to them, therefore you get lost in your silly little fantasy games like world of warcraft. And just for you being a judgemental azzhole, I'm going to be one back. I was so nice to you when I met you, and all I get for it is a kick in the teeth being called an attention seeker? You are so quick to judge and pick out what's wrong with me? Nay dude. I don't even know why you would say that about me? What have I done that ever seemed like I was pleading for attention?

That's fvcking ridiculous.

Sam-
I'm sorry if I offended you. It wasn't my intention. When I saw you were all to happy to flirt with all the guys. And I'm assuming you have a ton of "male friends".. Do you really think a self respecting man wants a girlfriend that hangs out with "the guys".
Knowing that 90 percent of your "male friends" want to fvck his girlfriend. And don't play the "jealousy boyfriend card" because that's just someone trying to justify their actions.

And obviously what I said was true because you wouldn't have gotten so riled up if it wasn't.

Fem-
Okay first of all, I was drunk. Secondly, I am friendly yes, but that doesn't mean I'm easy. I've had 3 boyfriends in my life. I have male friends yes, but that's because not many girls like gaming and partying the way I like to. I'm not worked up about this. I was shocked at first because that was pretty rude and I don't think I deserved to be spoken to like that. Just because I have guy friends doesn't mean I don't deserve to have a respectful boyfriend? Flirting was me flirting with the one guy that was there that I've known for a while and have liked for a while. The rest I was being plain friendly, saying you were really good looking was a compliment. People deserve to know if they have something good about themselves.

And I don't play the jealousy card because I put myself in the persons shoes, and if I get offended from it then I apologise and don't do it again, plain and simple. I'm not in a relationship anymore, I was extremely faithful and dated that guy for 4 years.

Talking to the male species, isn't the same thing as flirting.

Sam-
I understand what you're saying.. You say you have many "male friends" because you don't find the same quality in females..
But that's just trying to justify yourself. And I'm not saying a "respectful boyfriend" .. I'm saying a "self respecting man".
No guy want there girlfriend hanging out with tons of guys, and the guys that supposedly don't mind.. In reality there just hiding it, because females play the "don't you trust me card" etc.

I promise you now you won't attract a quality guy, while your entertain other men. You having tons of guy friends just screams you love male attention and any man with half a brain can see that. And thus you being quite attractive we all know that most of your guy friend wanna bang you. Do you really think a quality guy would put up with that?

Fem-
Also another thing, you said no one wants to date a girl knowing there are people that want to fvck her? So what about like fhm models? It's their job, so they don't deserve to have boyfriends because. Men desire them? I'm sorry but your logic is flawed. I see what you're saying but it's not always that way. I'm not trying to justify myself, I'm telling you the reason. One of my best friends is a male. So are you saying I shouldn't have male friends so that I can attract a guy in my life? I think that's ridiculous. I'm like 17 yes I have guy friends that sometimes do end up liking me. But I always tell them nothing will happen. And they get over it. Friends are friends, whether they are male or female. I draw the line at a certain point when it comes to friendliness though. And if he was a "quality guy" and I really liked him. There would be no problem. I'd do everything to make him happy and I'd never try make him jealous, so I wouldn't talk to lots of guys when we go out, it's normal relationship rules. if I like a guy, I never do anything for them to doubt me. What you are saying is valid only if I had to keep acting the way I do being in a relationship. But since I'm not. I have no rules of not being allowed to talk to guys.

I don't like being controlled. But if I like a guy, I'll do it for him.

The difference between you and I, is I'm a bubbly person. I'm always out, always having fun. You seem really bitter. Very serious about everything. I mean I tried to hug you and you said "I don't like hugs" or something to that effect. Who doesn't like hugs? I mean, why don't you just enjoy life. Go sit outside right now and watch the sunset, breathe the air. Live.

Just **** everything else and start being happy.

(continued)

 

[SamTheHobit]

Sam-
Again your still trying to justify why its okay to entertain men.. Cheating starts way before the bedroom. Those "guy friends" are biologically programmed to want to screw you. No they dont get "over it" it may seem that way, but it's not. Yes you can entertain as many guys as you want I'm just telling you, no self respecting man will ever put up with a girl like that.
And I assume that's the type of guy you want. I respect that your willing to change for the guy, that you want. But hindsight how's a quality guy suppose to know that?..
Men want a submissive women just as women want a masculine man.
Funny enough self respecting guys are rare to find because instead of having standard they just settle for whatever comes there way.
Most quality guys are either already in a relationship with a girl they have screened properly or are the "players" of the world tired of putting up with women's shiit and fvcking them then leaving.

The very same women that want to fvck and party in there youth are the same women that want a quality guy when they hit30 it just ain't happening.

Fem-
You're*, your is possession. And okay so you're giving "players" and excuse because they are male. Wow you're a complete chauvinist. It's actually amusing. What if I was hanging out with so many guy and blowing them all off when they thought I liked them because I felt they deserved to be treated like worthless scum only because I've been treated that way? Doesn't that sound pathetic? Hurting people who've done fvck all to you, because once upon a time you dated an azzhole. people and their excuses. And you say entertaining guys, as if I'm some kind of clown? I talk to them. I converse. I'm allowed to. It doesn't say in any book, thou shalt not converse with a male ever, as it is seen as being a wh0re.

Give me a break. Hahaha

Partying has fvck all to do with having a relationship. What must I sit at home and hope one day a guy comes knocking on my door? No.

I go out with my friends cause I love dancing and having fun and being young.

With the occasion of meeting a guy you might happen to like.

You just twist everything into a negative thing.

Sam-
Again any guy with half a brain knows that he wont find a qulity girl at a party..
Im not saying that all people that party are not relationship materiel that would be ridiculous. But in most cases women that party and drink on the weekends are accociated with promiscuous behaviour.. And promiscuous females do not make good girlfriends or wives. If your prepared to slut around and have tones of male friends just know that your gonna have to settle with a guy thats also gonna settle. And these guys are the ones without a backbobe and without any standards which constitute 90 percent of the male population.

Don't try and compare women to men. Women are the gate keepers of Sex and are biologically meant to be with one man, men on the other hand can sleep with as many women as they want without being knocked up for 9 months.. This isn't morraly speaking, just biologically.

Women aren't even psychologically cut out for many men.
I may be venturing off topic I'm just pointing out some interesting things

Fem-
Your mind set is stuck in the 1910's

It just annoys me when people get it wrong, other things I don't mind. And slutting around? You've got to be ****ing with me right? Hahahaaha. Please tell me your definition of a slut. I'd love to know this

Sam-
Pretty much any girl that ****s more then one guy out of marriage. A girl that had sex with three other guys would be a disaster to marry. But any non feminized guy would know this. I won't get married to a girl that's screwed another guy.

Fem-
Good luck with finding a girlfriend. But no, a slut is someone seen as like a prostitute almost, that's slept with over 5 people, is easy, meaning she would just take her shirt off if you asked. And will probably make out with you if you buy her a drink. I my friend and not a slut. So do not call me one. I am actually one of the very few people I know that have only been with 2 people. Everyone else have numbers that they can't even count on their hands anymore. You are such a judgemental person. It's actually sad. Like if I was suicidal as fvck, you'd be the last person I'd come to generally because you would probably mock me and end up making it worse.

parties are part of society, families, wives & so on go to clubs to have a good time. You are the only one that associates clubs & partying with slutting around, its called entertainment & relaxation for the mind.

It's like how people go to the movies.

Imagine me calling you a man-wh0re because you like to go to the movies.

Flawed logic.

And you'd be like wtf.

And I'd say, oh no because females also go. If you associate with females you're a slut

Duh$

Sam-
You asked for "my" definition of slut and that was it. Marriage is a life long commitment hell I won't even have a long term relationship, with a girl that's had another man.
A quality man knows that he can pick and choose and screen because he has self respect.. Why on earth would he commit to a girl thats fvcked a couple of guys "because hey I'm young and want to experience life"..
When he can choose a girl that's still pure.
You can backwards rationalize your actions all you want. It doesn't make promiscuous behaviour any more right.
Like I said before, quality men are very rare.. And the traits a quality man exhibit for starters have standards.
You want to have your cake and eat it too, it's just not going to happen. You can shame me all you want, I don't really care.

Fem-
What's funny about this is that I'm starting to realise that you think that you are the quality guy here. That's prettyyyy hilarious. You need to do some re evaluating.

Anyway thanks for the laugh x done with this conversation you are way too close minded. Stubborn, and should have been born in 1910's. Hahahaha.

Sam-
More shaming, real mature for someone who thinks she's mature enough to sleep around at such a young age.

Keep spreading the feminist imperative.
And dating guys that will take what they can get.

END

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Anyway shes blocked me from messaging her hahaha
had a good laugh at this.

I say its better to be blocked then to be another orbiter

 

[Plutoman]

I'm going to be honest.. I didn't really see the point of it. I learned very quickly that any discussion of any of this type of material is just bogus to most. They have to want to understand it, before they will actually try.

I ran into some discussion of it with my ex-girlfriend - heck, I even pulled out a few abstracts of research articles. It's not going to get into their heads. Most especially those young, pretty girls, who are (in their minds) benefiting from the modern reality.

If you had lived your entire life living a modern, rich lifestyle, with modern appliances, luxuries, benefits, and all of the good stuff, and someone brought up dropping it all and living like someone in the middle ages - wouldn't you just laugh at that? Even if he said it'd be better for you when you get older? That's what it's like for these girls - they live the good life, and you are asking them to consider dropping it for benefits they can't see.

 

[Revel]

The mouthpeice for any teenage girl in the states right here. its disgusting how society is turning out kids so ignorent. the moral ethic of our culture diminishing.. by the year!

 

[SamTheHobit]

Why did you get a woman's number only to lock horns with her on IM? Are you trying not to get laid?

You sound like you've learned a lot of DJ philosophy, but no application. Arguing with a woman about this kind of stuff is a colossal waste of time. You will never convince her. Women aren't rational (especially at 17).

For the record, most women hold hackneyed ideas of what a "real man" should be, what a slvt is or isn't, and at least pay lip service to feminism. I know because I have gamed and nailed more than a few. It wouldn't have happened if I tried debating them on the great sexual divide.

Next time, instead of convincing her she wants to be dominated, just dominate her. Let them have their silly opinions.

Meh I got bored. Just wanted to share.

It beats seeing the same threads over and over again imo.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Trollololo haha

 

[djgirl]

i hope you werent serious with everything that you wrote to her. please tell me you were joking?!

if you werent then this is one of the reasons i hate men v_v i would of blocked you too.

 

[floydb25]

If there were such a thing as OD'ing on the red pill, this would be it.

This seriously made me lol.... Awesome.

But OP: I did the same thing with women before - either when they rejected me, or I was just pissed and wanted them all to die, or when I was wondering certain things; calling them out, or whatever.. Not that you were really expecting it to, but it doesn't work - only makes them defensive and angry. You don't talk like you do on here with women. Yeah, you know what's going on, but you don't argue with them about it, or attack them with it. It's just one of those things you know, but don't talk about, or even bring up. You're only going to get socially appropriate answers, and anti-everything-bad claims. So, just a waste time.

I actually dated women where we would constantly talk and argue about the dynamics, past relationships, and how it related to us, and all this serious personal ****; where we stood with each other; and other draining ****. Arguing over everything, like you did. Some of the worst relationships I had. It's best to just STFU about it all, and not get analytically argumentative like this.

Girls like this, like she basically said, just wanna have fun and "live". Even if she is an attention-seeking party ***** - she's going to deny and defend vigorously against it. Or really anything you try to attack them with. Then they're going to view you as too serious, analytical, deep, logical, judgemental, boring, etc, and tell you to drop dead.

Also, everything they tell you in conversations like this is at a logical level - akin to when they claim to want a nice guy - as they're crying on his shoulder, and he views her as smart and nice and perfect. It means **** all when it comes to reality, and doesn't turn her on. So, all you get is a bunch of fluff talk. EVERY girl seems intelligent and sophisticated when you talk or argue in normal conversations, such as this. Doesn't mean ****. Even the most shallow *****s seem normal when engaging in normal conversation.

*****es - especially at her age - just want to be charmed, seduced, aroused, excited, intrigued (ie, challenge & mystery), and swept off their feet. They don't care about all this deep ****, and her responses weren't necessarily intelligent. Nor was the conversation itself. They just think they're super smart when it comes to relationships - because its all they care, *****, analyze, and talk about with their friends. As well as the **** they learned from internet articles. Still has zero to do with reality: who they are, what they do, the type of person they seek after, what she's really attracted to, etc.

Words mean ****, and conversations like this are pointless. You just keep the knowledge stored in your head, observe their actions, and pay attention to everything - while focusing on attracting them.

But again, not that you cared, and were just looking for entertainment... Just sayin'. You're going to get a LOT of these responses if you go down this path. Or act like a nice guy, or whatever.

 

[SamTheHobit]

This seriously made me lol.... Awesome.

But OP: I did the same thing with women before - either when they rejected me, or I was just pissed and wanted them all to die, or when I was wondering certain things; calling them out, or whatever.. Not that you were really expecting it to, but it doesn't work - only makes them defensive and angry. You don't talk like you do on here with women. Yeah, you know what's going on, but you don't argue with them about it, or attack them with it. It's just one of those things you know, but don't talk about, or even bring up. You're only going to get socially appropriate answers, and anti-everything-bad claims. So, just a waste time.

I actually dated women where we would constantly talk and argue about the dynamics, past relationships, and how it related to us, and all this serious personal ****; where we stood with each other; and other draining ****. Arguing over everything, like you did. Some of the worst relationships I had. It's best to just STFU about it all, and not get analytically argumentative like this.

Girls like this, like she basically said, just wanna have fun and "live". Even if she is an attention-seeking party ***** - she's going to deny and defend vigorously against it. Or really anything you try to attack them with. Then they're going to view you as too serious, analytical, deep, logical, judgemental, boring, etc, and tell you to drop dead.

Also, everything they tell you in conversations like this is at a logical level - akin to when they claim to want a nice guy - as they're crying on his shoulder, and he views her as smart and nice and perfect. It means **** all when it comes to reality, and doesn't turn her on. So, all you get is a bunch of fluff talk. EVERY girl seems intelligent and sophisticated when you talk or argue in normal conversations, such as this. Doesn't mean ****. Even the most shallow *****s seem normal when engaging in normal conversation.

*****es - especially at her age - just want to be charmed, seduced, aroused, excited, intrigued (ie, challenge & mystery), and swept off their feet. They don't care about all this deep ****, and her responses weren't necessarily intelligent. Nor was the conversation itself. They just think they're super smart when it comes to relationships - because its all they care, *****, analyze, and talk about with their friends. As well as the **** they learned from internet articles. Still has zero to do with reality: who they are, what they do, the type of person they seek after, what she's really attracted to, etc.

Words mean ****, and conversations like this are pointless. You just keep the knowledge stored in your head, observe their actions, and pay attention to everything - while focusing on attracting them.

But again, not that you cared, and were just looking for entertainment... Just sayin'. You're going to get a LOT of these responses if you go down this path. Or act like a nice guy, or whatever.

Agreed bro.

This was the first time I done this and felt like grasping the mindset of this girl.

I don't really plan on doing this again for the reasons you stated. That would be a pretty big waste of mental energy and time.

 

[Packers2010]

lol. i liked it a little though i did trialled off at the ending.

i know ALL girls arn't like this but she is 17. she just SCREAMS attention Wh0re. was pretty funny to read.

i KNOW girls like to party as dose guys. but when you TELL someone you like to party it's just a ****ing turn off!

when a POF profile says i'm bubbly and i like to party just ignore it. she is an attention *****