Mere 6.3 girl comes over and nothing then

[pyros]

Hello.

There is this chick which is a 6-6.5. I met her several months ago and got her number. One day I asked her out and she said that she could not because she had a boyfriend. Ok, whatever. One or two months later I bumped into her in a club and she flirted with me, ok. SOme weeks later she went to a club and asked me to go to meet her there, but I did not.
Some more weeks passed by...no contact, ok, I was not interested.

Then two days ago she texts me out of nowhere, I did not even have her number anymore. She asks me how I am etc, I reply, we text a bit back and forth and then I just went straight and wrote her this:
me: hey, we could go grab a drink tonight or you could come over to watch a movie
her (two hours later): ok, I have some work to do, but we can meet after dinner to grab a beer.

Then 1 hour before the time we agreed she texts me this:
her: hi, I am a bit tired so I dont feel like going out, I'd rather just watch a movie at your place

Here I was pretty happy cause I though I was gonna bang her for sure.
me: alright, I'll pick you up in an hour.

Then 20 mins after this text, she texts me this:
her: listen, my very good female friend just got mad at ther boyfriend, do you mind if we just go the three of us to have a drink so I can cheer her up and then we go back to your place?
me: alright.
I started to have a bad feeling here, but ok, I wanted to see where this was going.
I got all dress up and groomed and I went to pick them up.
When I got there I had to wait 30 mins because this girl was not ready, I was about to leave after the first 15 mins, but she texted me that she was coming in no time...
Then she came and...AND...she was not dress up at all! ****ing *****!
She got in the car and we had this weird conversation:
me: hey, you're late
her: yeah I know, sorry, my girl friend is feeling pretty bad and I did not know if she was coming or not, so I did not know if we were going to a club or what, er...I dont know. I see you're dressed to go to a club, er...sorry.
me: what? so your friend was coming, but now she's not, you wanted to go to grab a drink but you're not dress up, you better clear your ideas next time dont you think?
her: yeah. Well, we could go to grab a drink around here...
me: ok...

Then 10 mins in the car...
her: or we could watch the movie at your place
me (thinking I was going to get laid): alright, yeah
Then we got to my place.
I had some drinks prepared and a movie ready, so we sat on the couch and started to drink and talk...

HERE IS THE MOST ANNOYING PART:

It seemed we were having fun, blah blah, but she was sitting with her arms crossed and legs crossed as well, and was sitting a palm away from me.
Anyway after an hour or less, I got closer, and started to play with her hair, she seemed ok with it. Then I softly toucher her cheeck, she seemd ok. We talked a bit more, laughed etc, then I went for the kiss but she slightly turned her head so I got her cheek.
After a while I did the same, and got the same result.
I was getting upset here but I played it cool, since she's 30 and is a very traditional girl.

When the movie finished, I took her home, I did not try to kiss her or do anything else, we said bye and that was it.
****ING ****-TEASER, this is ****-teasing master level!

My conclusion is that she was not very interested to begin with, she was not gonna meet me (this is why she made me wait in my car for 30 mins and she arrived late), but in the end she decided to give it a try, but she did not even dress up.
And when she talked about her female friend having problems with her boyfriend, Im thinking that it was actually HER, there was no girl friend, it was her own problem.

The funy thing is that she's a mere 6.4 and she rejected me, LMAO...
I've learned that Im not bringing any girl home unless she displays very high and clear interest.

What do you think?

 

[HalfPUAHalfAFC]

She was fishing for a guy to hang with that night. She had sent out several "feelers" and there were other options she hoped would come through instead of you.

There was no girlfriend with a boyfriend problem.

Her other options didn't pan out.

One of them kept her hanging past the last minute (i.e., when she agreed you would pick her up).

She didn't dress up because her other option was going to be a more casual get together, probably a FWB situation she didn't need to doll herself up for.

When that fell through, she thought, "What the heck...I might as well go out with him, nothing to lose."

She wanted to go to your place for a few reasons:

1. She didn't want to bump into other guys she was fishing for.
2. She would get a few free drinks and a movie out of it, plus some attention.
3. If you were super smooth and had game to turn her on, she thought maybe it could be a slim chance for a decent lay.

You did not give her the game she wanted or could not turn down. She went through with the "date" because, well, why not. It beats boredom and validates her belief that guys want her.

She doesn't see you as a tier-A guy but a tier-B guy. Decent if that's what you want to be. However, given that she wouldn't let you escalate sexually, I'm guessing she's probably written you off by now.

My advice: move on unless you just want to practice skills for a bang. In any case, she doesn't want to either boyfriend you or even FWB you.

 

[zinc4]

First off...why are you chasing 6s??? They should be chasing you. You come off as a little desperate...

But yeah..she had obvious low interest but when you go for the kiss you should practically try to rape her if there is resistance....and then kick her out if she cops an attitude about it...never give up on the kiss..start kissing her neck and ear to turn her on then force the kiss and finally she will reciprocate if she has any sexual interest in you....but you live and you learn..

 

[Hydrak]

You came across as a *****, don't be so desperate the next time. Also; make certain plans instead of "maybe go to the club or maybe my place" which makes you look uncertain.

Bottom line: some girls are extreme AWs and just want some extra attention in their trivial lifes, they feed off it and you gave it to her. Delete her number and proceed to the next one.

 

[pyros]

Hi,

this silly ***** texted me some hours ago:
her: hey, I had such a great time with you. You're charming and very funy, I really like you!!


what da **** dudes?

 

[zinc4]

Hi,

this silly ***** texted me some hours ago:
her: hey, I had such a great time with you. You're charming and very funy, I really like you!!


what da **** dudes?

This is why you should have been more aggressive with her when trying to kiss her...you probably could have gotten the lay...oh well....next time don't accept no...you never know with women...plenty of interested/semi interested ones turn the cheek the first time on a first date....always be super persistent and aggressive when kiss closing...

 

[pyros]

Hi zinc4.
You're right but now I just want to **** something, something not less than a 6 or above, thats it. Im trying to pick up better girls but if in the meanwhile an easy 6 comes my way, why not? its better than porn. LOL.

Besides, here girls have their egos so damn high, that a mere 6 consideres herself probably a 7, and a mere 6 probably have several guys interested. Im more than a 7 in my humble opinion, but this does not mean I have girls chasing me, funy but true.

P.S.
I could have kind of 'raped' her as you say but I do not like the idea. Maybe if she was really hot, maybe I had tried, but hey, if Im touching her leg, playing with her hair, and tried to kiss her two times, its more than enough.

Im not doing anything else with her unless she pursues me. Hah.

 

[Gro0ver]

Waiting 30mins for her....I would have driven home after 10. She took the piss and you showed your desperation by swallowing it. You should have known she was low interest from this and not even bothered.

My advice: kill the desperation and work on an abundance mentality. Demand more respect from women and you will get higher interest, and once their interest is high then gaming them is easy. And there won't be any need to go all rapey.

 

[Cremasta]

Then 20 mins after this text, she texts me this:
her: listen, my very good female friend just got mad at ther boyfriend, do you mind if we just go the three of us to have a drink so I can cheer her up and then we go back to your place?

Yeah, hindsight is 20/20 hey?

This is where you should have pulled out. You could have done it with something like "No, look, that's ok. Whenever I've had a fight with a gf, I don't leave until the problem is fixed and we're all good. It must have been something serious, so I'll probably just get in the way. Let's make it another time."

You know it's bullsh!t.
She knows it's bullsh!t.
But you get to eject from a crappy situation, look chivalrous as fvck, and she has to start over.

No girl brings an angry, mopey girlfriend on a date with a guy she's trying to impress.

 

[Young Juan]

this

 

[pyros]

well, this chick just texted me:
'hey handsome, I would really like to see you again, what about if this weekend I bring a bottle of champagne to your place and we watch another movie?
I can friday and sunday evening, tell me something, :**'
me (1.5 hours later): ok, friday will do, just bring rum or wine cause I do not like champage.

Am I gonna bang her? it looks like. If she comes this friday and I do not get anywhere sexual, Im sending her to hell.
Would she not even kiss me the first time and bang me the second?
Strange...

 

[casaanova]

A 30 year old 6.5? IMO you got off easy

 

[Mike32ct]

well, this chick just texted me:
'hey handsome, I would really like to see you again, what about if this weekend I bring a bottle of champagne to your place and we watch another movie?
I can friday and sunday evening, tell me something, :**'
me (1.5 hours later): ok, friday will do, just bring rum or wine cause I do not like champage.

Am I gonna bang her? it looks like. If she comes this friday and I do not get anywhere sexual, Im sending her to hell.
Would she not even kiss me the first time and bang me the second?
Strange...

It's your last chance to try.

I had a chick invite me over a few times with wine, and she still would barely kiss. If I had to do it over again, I would have been way more aggressive.

Be aggressive, and give it one last try with this one.

 

[Vidrio]

if you don't bang her I think it will be your own fault. She obviously wants the D, you just have to be aggressive enough to give it to her.

 

[pyros]

Hi Mike,
what do you mean by aggressive?
last time I played with her hair, touched her leg, grabbed her hand, and tried to kiss her twice and got the cheek.
Should I as someone said above, try to kiss her, if not, kiss her neck instead, kiss her shoulder, kiss her chin...kiss her mouth?
We'll be sitting on the couch.

SUggestions?
what you did not do on those occasions you're talking about?
what would you have done?

 

[plate's_empty]

I'm curious to hear what happens on the second date. She could just be strong willed and have "rules" about the first date and "tests" and **** like that. That may be AFC thinking but some girls especially the 5's to 7's feel their only way to land someone better than them is to play the hard to get roll. She may be looking for a boyfriend, at 30 she ain't no spring chicken and probably knows how the game works.

That may be why you received those texts from her. She knows she probably turned you off, now she's reeling you back in. I'm guessing the second date is going to have a different outcome. She's now more comfortable with you and is preparing herself to sleep with you or get close to it.

 

[Sandow]

Girls are really finicky about hooking up on their first date. C'mon, you really thought she was going to fvck you on your first date? And if she does, that tells you right off the bat what type of girl she is.

I'm sure you've had some one night stands, and maybe have gotten laid on the first, but generally speaking this isn't the norm.

It typically takes around 3 dates for women to feel comfortable to sleep with you. You guys will make out this time around, but again, don't get all bent out of shape if she doesn't bone you.

Take it as a good sign she doesn't wanna hook up on a first date. It means she's a classy girl with standards and not easy. If she fvcked you on the first date, just imagine how many other guys she did that with. Yea, you don't wanna be fcking every guy on the block. And If you do, then your just an idiot and make sure you wrap it up twice.

Anyways, she's totally interested in you. Any girl that invites herself over is really interested. Just slow your role turbo.

 

[plate's_empty]

Girls are really finicky about hooking up on their first date. C'mon, you really thought she was going to fvck you on your first date? And if she does, that tells you right off the bat what type of girl she is.

I'm sure you've had some one night stands, and maybe have gotten laid on the first, but generally speaking this isn't the norm.

It typically takes around 3 dates for women to feel comfortable to sleep with you. You guys will make out this time around, but again, don't get all bent out of shape if she doesn't bone you.

Take it as a good sign she doesn't wanna hook up on a first date. It means she's a classy girl with standards and not easy. If she fvcked you on the first date, just imagine how many other guys she did that with. Yea, you don't wanna be fcking every guy on the block. And If you do, then your just an idiot and make sure you wrap it up twice.

Anyways, she's totally interested in you. Any girl that invites herself over is really interested. Just slow your role turbo.

Agreed. You have to pick and choose your times when you're going to be aggressive.

 

[visions]

Hi Mike,
what do you mean by aggressive?
last time I played with her hair, touched her leg, grabbed her hand, and tried to kiss her twice and got the cheek.
Should I as someone said above, try to kiss her, if not, kiss her neck instead, kiss her shoulder, kiss her chin...kiss her mouth?
We'll be sitting on the couch.

SUggestions?
what you did not do on those occasions you're talking about?
what would you have done?

great questions, pyros. i recommend the standard push-pull, beggining with the push.

i hope it goes well

 

[Big Nuts]

I wouldn't cross the street for a 6.5.