Men's issues and finding a Men's group

[Masculinity]

We are in a society wherein being male and behaving like a man is becoming "politically incorrect" and there are a variety of issues that remain in silence because of a culture in which we are expected to have no emotions and be "strong."

-We have the highest rates of suicide, especially became those under pressure don't know to whom to speak about a serious issue
-We are expected to produce more financially and set a foundation for a family
-We have much higher rates of unreported mental health issues
-We are judged based on what we own, especially when dating
-We have a higher chances of being incarcerated and more likely spend more time in jail
-We are more likely to lose children from divorce and losing a higher part of our assets and income
-I know men who have been physically abused and threatened by their female partners and have no way to rebuild themselves because they don't know who to speak to and they feel it's taboo to bring it up--embarrassed that they will be humiliated.

No, I am not talking about becoming sensitive, a "softie" or generating complaints about everything. I am talking about the issues that some of us face (yes, I experience these issues myself) yet cannot verbalize it to someone in our network for one or another reason. I want to know, how do you all deal with these issues? Who listens when you want to talk about an event in our life that was traumatic? To whom do you speak when we are frustrated and/pr under extreme stress or any other matter?

I am open to setting up a group where we can talk about the above issues or other issues that are currently impacting each of us. I am also open to meeting up with people in person to listen and to be listened. Holding stress and problem inside can lead to psychological and physical distress, disease, and even suicide. It takes a certain degree of maturity to admit that we are not human fortresses because we are men. And there is no reason we should settle for any of these issues. If you are interested in forming an online group where you can meet people in your area to talk about these issues, or if any of you know resources that we can all use, please share them here.

I am for a system that protects our identities and provide a safe environment where we can talk about these issues in a mature and healthy manner. Please share and discuss below.

 

[SgtSplacker]

Getting hammered with my friends is my support group lol. Good luck with this

 

[Alvafe]

its being a softie because youa re letting then to it to you, I said this before and will say it again, be rutless, a girl hit you, good, tell the police, stop caring what others will think and start to work on not only your finances but also on your own protection, learn to create a paper trail who will be used to protect you now and in the future.

most of your problem come from you don't do anything to yourself and life to please others, and care about they opnion about you, with you should care, and they was the ones who should look for your aproval, that is weakness, and undertand everyone out there will prey on your weakness

 

[Desdinova]

Fvck support groups. Let's occupy a defunct town and build it into success. No 5hitty media, no 5hitty SJWs, no 5hitty Feminists, just total man power. Success would be our creation. We could fvck the female tourists.

 

[SgtSplacker]

Fvck support groups. Let's occupy a defunct town and build it into success. No 5hitty media, no 5hitty SJWs, no 5hitty Feminists, just total man power. Success would be our creation. We could fvck the female tourists.

Primary crop... Marijuana

It's even more legal now... Or less illegal?

 

[Desdinova]

Primary crop... Marijuana

Weed doesn't do anything positive for me. I'll start a brewery.

 

[wolf]

www.shrink4men.com is a great site with a great forum for any man that has had or is having dealings with cluster b women.

 

[speed dawg]

We are in a society wherein being male and behaving like a man is becoming "politically incorrect" and there are a variety of issues that remain in silence because of a culture in which we are expected to have no emotions and be "strong."

-We have the highest rates of suicide, especially became those under pressure don't know to whom to speak about a serious issue
-We are expected to produce more financially and set a foundation for a family
-We have much higher rates of unreported mental health issues
-We are judged based on what we own, especially when dating
-We have a higher chances of being incarcerated and more likely spend more time in jail
-We are more likely to lose children from divorce and losing a higher part of our assets and income
-I know men who have been physically abused and threatened by their female partners and have no way to rebuild themselves because they don't know who to speak to and they feel it's taboo to bring it up--embarrassed that they will be humiliated.

No, I am not talking about becoming sensitive, a "softie" or generating complaints about everything. I am talking about the issues that some of us face (yes, I experience these issues myself) yet cannot verbalize it to someone in our network for one or another reason. I want to know, how do you all deal with these issues? Who listens when you want to talk about an event in our life that was traumatic? To whom do you speak when we are frustrated and/pr under extreme stress or any other matter?

I am open to setting up a group where we can talk about the above issues or other issues that are currently impacting each of us. I am also open to meeting up with people in person to listen and to be listened. Holding stress and problem inside can lead to psychological and physical distress, disease, and even suicide. It takes a certain degree of maturity to admit that we are not human fortresses because we are men. And there is no reason we should settle for any of these issues. If you are interested in forming an online group where you can meet people in your area to talk about these issues, or if any of you know resources that we can all use, please share them here.

I am for a system that protects our identities and provide a safe environment where we can talk about these issues in a mature and healthy manner. Please share and discuss below.

It's been very difficult for me, even as a married guy with kids, to find a network in the real world of truly trust-worthy brothers, where we can talk about, well, really the stuff we talk about here. We have a pretty good group of different age in my church small group, but it's flaky, sometimes people show and sometimes they don't. It seems to me that men make time for their commitments to this and that, but not much time for each other. Just my observation. This doesn't exactly apply to single guys, who hang out with each other out of boredom. And even then, there isn't much deep conversation going on.

 

[logicallefty]

This is my support group right here: sosuave.net.

 

[PantyWhisperer]

Fvck support groups. Let's occupy a defunct town and build it into success. No 5hitty media, no 5hitty SJWs, no 5hitty Feminists, just total man power. Success would be our creation. We could fvck the female tourists.

Lord of the Flies, except with hot chicks! I like it!

 

[PantyWhisperer]

It's been very difficult for me, even as a married guy with kids, to find a network in the real world of truly trust-worthy brothers, where we can talk about, well, really the stuff we talk about here. We have a pretty good group of different age in my church small group, but it's flaky, sometimes people show and sometimes they don't. It seems to me that men make time for their commitments to this and that, but not much time for each other. Just my observation. This doesn't exactly apply to single guys, who hang out with each other out of boredom. And even then, there isn't much deep conversation going on.

I can say that I really don't have a close male friend that I can open up to, or even go do guy stuff with. My former best bud is engaged to a woman who really does not like me, so we can't really even get together for a beer or ride out to Lowe's together and just look at man stuff. We used to like to stroll the mall and ogle women as well. Women don't support male friendships well at all bc they are threatened by them, yet they want to have all their GNO, or Paint Nite, or women outing this - women event that.
I've threatened to open a strip club in this town and then we men can have our Paint Night. We'll just use body paint and our canvas will be the hoes....

 

[speed dawg]

I can say that I really don't have a close male friend that I can open up to, or even go do guy stuff with. My former best bud is engaged to a woman who really does not like me, so we can't really even get together for a beer or ride out to Lowe's together and just look at man stuff. We used to like to stroll the mall and ogle women as well. Women don't support male friendships well at all bc they are threatened by them, yet they want to have all their GNO, or Paint Nite, or women outing this - women event that.
I've threatened to open a strip club in this town and then we men can have our Paint Night. We'll just use body paint and our canvas will be the hoes....

This tends to happen and I don't know why. I observe other people a good bit, and the guys at my church/work/etc. seem very reluctant to get out of their comfort zone, let their guard down, and meet other guys. It's like it's a constant competition and nobody wants to make it seem like they 'need' or 'want' added friendships to their life. I do it too sometimes, and I guess it's more pride than anything. Women seem to do it all the time, yet men gripe about their 'busy schedule' (made so by their women). I mean, sh*t, the small groups I've seen all meet at like 6 in the morning, which I don't f*cking want to do because then I have to go to work. I really just do not get it. It's like the only option I have is to go back to my hometown and chill out with those guys, because it seems like that is the only thing that is allowable.

In the end it's just insecurity. No, you won't like everyone you meet but at least open up to it.

 

[oOh Nasty]

Fvck support groups. Let's occupy a defunct town and build it into success. No 5hitty media, no 5hitty SJWs, no 5hitty Feminists, just total man power. Success would be our creation. We could fvck the female tourists.

Let me know when you find said town. An alpha male central that monopolizes on beer production sounds fun.

 

[Once Bitten]

Fvck support groups. Let's occupy a defunct town and build it into success. No 5hitty media, no 5hitty SJWs, no 5hitty Feminists, just total man power. Success would be our creation. We could fvck the female tourists.

That's the best idea I've heard in a long f*cking time.

 

[Fruitbat]

Friends for me were not the answer.

My friends are too competitive to be trusted with some information, or at least I don't feel safe disclosing some things to them. There are some things as a man that can happen to you that you can't have in the open. You especially can't let women know. They are as retentive of secrets as a colander.

I had an issue with a cluster B mother which took over my life - they will say you have mommy issues.

Struggling at work - you're a loser.

Got your heart broken for the amusement of some b1tch - you are too emotional.

I had a load of stuff hit me harder than Tyson over the last few years. I had some really bad childhood trauma. I had no one to talk to and ended up talking, and the general reception I get as a man is mainly men feeling embarrassed about talking about it and few back slaps "come on mate go grab a beer and get laid"

Women will just devalue you in the group to loser status and although you might be pitied, who wants that.

I don't even dislike the system. People should keep their problems to themselves.

What I do dislike is the constant narrative that it's women who are assaulted by gender roles.

We need to be strong as we are the bottom line, we need to take the bullets and defend. We must lead and be cheerfull in adversity. I get that, I regret sharing anything.

I tend to share more on here than anywhere as its Anon. anon groups are best for men I think.

 

[PantyWhisperer]

Agree with much of the above. I went through a period recently where I thought women could make quality friends for a man, but got burned and burned badly by their inability to keep your secrets. Colander is correct.

Went to a therapist for a little over a year during a rough patch but it was your prototypical just-listen-and-nod therapist at $100 an hour. I find it's more productive to journal into a supremely locked down source. I have an email account that is pretty secure, so sometimes I just email myself what is going through my head. It's helpful to go back and read those thoughts after a period of time. It helps me see that I've made progress, whether it felt like I had or not.
But even as secure as that is, I delete after a period of time. Some things just don't need to be "out there" in ink or in someone else's head.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

There are times I wish I could talk to some of you guys in person over a beer, and then there are other times I'm glad it's just this message board on the internet.

 

[Desdinova]

There are times I wish I could talk to some of you guys in person over a beer, and then there are other times I'm glad it's just this message board on the internet.

There's always skype