I found this article just a few minutes ago. Food for thought.
http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=567952006
http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=567952006
I didn't really read any of that, because of this sentence. Every dating expert since man started studying seduction techniques has agreed on this time frame. The paid experts, the "pay her to f*ck you" experts, the "Don Juan" experts... Even the female experts that give advice to men. The time frame is thirty seconds. So, instead of debating how much time you have, try figuring out what you're going to do with the time that you do have.Duke said:WTF? We have 30 seconds to IMPRESS women? What a bullsh!t frame.
Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Clarification:thederekeffect1 said:I didn't really read any of that, because of this sentence. Every dating expert since man started studying seduction techniques has agreed on this time frame. The paid experts, the "pay her to f*ck you" experts, the "Don Juan" experts... Even the female experts that give advice to men. The time frame is thirty seconds. So, instead of debating how much time you have, try figuring out what you're going to do with the time that you do have.
Amen.WTF? We have 30 seconds to IMPRESS women? What a bullsh!t frame.
AMENtwilight said:Trying to "impress" a girl will mess you up everytime. By approaching a girl with that frame you've lost already because that frame assumes she has more value than you. And as we know women don't feel attraction for men with less value than them (men who aren't the "prize").
Ah, well thanks for clearing that up "can't think of a user name", and I apologize for skipping over your post Duke.cant think of a user name said:Clarification:
when Duke said it was a "bullsh*t frame", he meant FRAME as in your FRAMING of the situation, the LENS through which you operate and see the world in, NOT time frame. Thus, Duke was NOT debating about the 30 seconds, he was debating about the need for guys to THINK that they have to IMPRESS women, rather than just being their own good self and sharing it with other people (he explains it much better).
Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.