Men will sacrifice their loved ones for pūssy

[RichardTheFrog]

I think in a lot of parts of America, it really has become a matriarchy. I told @RichardTheFrog "How do you know these women are in my harem? What if the plot twist is that I am in THEIR harem?"

99% of HOT women really ARE insecure or completely entitled.

Everything that I have said the past year comes from experience in the toughest market and the most advanced matriarchal city in the US (San Francisco). SF is your future. If your city hasn't become full blown SF yet, it will.

But to be honest, I was already over all of this back in 2008. I was already living in a post patriarchal society when most guys were just hearing about feminism. That's why I refer to romance as "petty," and most of my posts get flamed by newbies hanging onto blue pill fantasy (posts stating that every chick is a monkey brancher and that you either play the game or become celibate).

Even my philosophy of "let women go and set them free and hope that she realizes you are her best choice" comes from post patriarchal experience.

The only way to win is total non neediness, total outcome independence, and total abundance, and even then, you might not win.

Well I just want some hot chicks to swing to my branch once in a while. That would be nice. I feel like I've earned it.

Here's a quote from the Wikipedia article on matriarchy...

"Most anthropologists hold that there are no known societies that are unambiguously matriarchal"

Meaning that it has never existed in the history of our species until possibly now.

Men build, men hunt, men fight, men protect.

How many females were involved in the construction of the Great Pyramids of Egypt? The digging of the Panama Canal? How many females were in the American Revolutionary Army? How many females died in combat invading Normandy on D-Day?

I could list 10,000 more examples, and the answer is... ZERO.

They are useless. They play a supporting role at best, yet this is what the world has become. Bull****. But complaining isn't going to change anything.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Girls have such a confused, inflated opinion of themselves that they're barely worth talking to.

That's a "girl" dude. There are 30,40 and even 50 year old "girls"... There are women out there with wisdom and experience who'd be an asset to be in your ear. I think "girl" (s) frustrate you, and you already banged out 100 backpage "girls" and it will only add to your stress and anger. You need someone who is not trying to capitalize off of you who appreciates your authentic self.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

That's a "girl" dude. There are 30,40 and even 50 year old "girls"... There are women out there with wisdom and experience who'd be an asset to be in your ear. I think "girl" (s) frustrate you, and you already banged out 100 backpage "girls" and it will only add to your stress and anger. You need someone who is not trying to capitalize off of you who appreciates your authentic self.

I didn't know that existed. I thought that was blue pill thinking.

I was of the opinion that it was okay, even expected, to let a girl capitalize off me if she's giving me something in return.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I didn't know that existed. I thought that was blue pill thinking.

I was of the opinion that it was okay, even expected, to let a girl capitalize off me if she's giving me something in return.

If you listen to all the redpill guys it is not possible. I've been talking to tenacity about it and he is focused on staying down in the Millineal age range. I asked him to get a babe a couple years older than him, it will make a huge difference.

They are all different. There are responsible and dependable women out there, one who earn their own way, who help their friends, who don't like to lie, will be somewhat innocent but very coachable in the bedroom, but they will not be as "hot" as the "girls" that are doing rotations of 5 guys.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

If you listen to all the redpill guys it is not possible. I've been talking to tenacity about it and he is focused on staying down in the Millineal age range. I asked him to get a babe a couple years older than him, it will make a huge difference.

They are all different. There are responsible and dependable women out there, one who earn their own way, who help their friends, who don't like to lie, will be somewhat innocent but very coachable in the bedroom, but they will not be as "hot" as the "girls" that are doing rotations of 5 guys.

As far as my "authentic self," I'm not sure I'm really that good of a person. Lol.

Following World War I, Sigmund Freud came to the conclusion that we're all ****ed up in the head and capable of horrible things. I tend to agree with him. Look at the behavior of primitive tribes. They kill, steal, and even murder infants.

Plus, I did just do 4 years in prison for "sarcastically" telling a girl that I wanted to follow her home, tie her up, and torture her. HAHAHAHA (wait... why's that funny? Lol.) But I've totally changed since then.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

Generally I agree with OP. There are some members on this board you may notice that they will never find happiness based on what they post. They do want it, but some of the stuff they post tells a little about that person on the internet typing at a keyboard and that person is likely going to be unfulfilled in the long term.

Of course I also fully expect that quite possibly those same guys will quote my reply telling me that my marriage is a sham, I'm not really as happy as I claim to be and my wife has at least 2 Chad's banging her on the side while she's at work.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Generally I agree with OP. There are some members on this board you may notice that they will never find happiness based on what they post. They do want it, but some of the stuff they post tells a little about that person on the internet typing at a keyboard and that person is likely going to be unfulfilled in the long term.

Of course I also fully expect that quite possibly those same guys will quote my reply telling me that my marriage is a sham, I'm not really as happy as I claim to be and my wife has at least 2 Chad's banging her on the side while she's at work.

Why are you on this forum if you're married?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Why are you on this forum if you're married?

Modern day marriage requires some game and personal up keep.

 

[Trump]

These threads are fine. How else are new DJs supposed to learn? However, the root of all these questions is the same. Scarcity. If a man truly felt abundance then these trivial things would not matter becauce he is aware they're plenty of other opportunites.

Don't know about that bro. We have all gone out with a bunch of girls, and I'm sure there is 1 that we connect better with, have more fun with, like to be with, have more in common with. Even if we all had tons and tons of girls, we would still put a lot more effort and time and energy into the one we like.

To become the dominant powerful men we aspire to be we need to internalize a few things.

1. Pūssy is not the end all be all. You should not be compromising any of your virtues to obtain it. It's an abundant good. You have unlimited tries. There's no need to go back to and ex or a flame from years ago. This causes you to miss out on new possibly better experiences. Stop being afraid to be alone. Stop being afraid of the hardship of being lonely for a lil bit.

Good idea in theory but it's not reality. 99% of the men on SS would throw out their "virtues" and "goals" to go out with a good looking women and not to be alone on Saturday night.

2. Stop sacrificing everything you stand for for comfort. I have a friend whose girlfriend fūcked the entire social circle. They argued and after a few months he took her back. I don't need to explain what's wrong with this.

As long as he doesn't go bankrupt, sacrifice his assets, or commit emotionally to her, what's the problem? Again, if she looked good and gave good sex, 99% of SS would go out with her. You don't think all men would have gone out with and slept with Sharon Stone in the early 90s? She had sex with a lot of guys on screen and in real life.

As long as the girl looks good, the guy will date and sleep with her, slut or no slut.

3. Learn to be able to solve all of your problems yourself. Asking for advice and help is good and the perfect way to learn but what you should really be learning is the tools to solve the problem yourself in the future. Being able to confidently rely upon yourself in hardship makes this life easier.

To an extent. Rich and powerful didn't get where they are today by themselves. They had connections, family members, friends to help them on their way. I used to think I could do everything myself, big mistake.

4. You are not finished yet. I don't care how old you are or what you've been through you should always be looking for ways to improve yourself and achieve what YOU want. We live life once. You should be striving to each one of your goals. Until death.

Yeah but you need a girl to do it with. OK, you reached your goals at 37 and have an extra $50,000 in your account but are alone Saturday night. OK, you made tons of money at 41 and are rich, but are alone Saturday night. Often the sacrifice we make for money is not worth it if there is no girl involved. The goals are OK but a girl is needed to make it worthwhile.

If you find yourself consumed with the scarcity mindset or believe you are about to do something questionable. Masturbate. You will make much smarter decisions with the head on your head.

Come on bro, are you kidding? If you do that you'll have even less of an incentive to find a girl to have sex with and will be more alone on Saturday night.

If you find yourself confused, just use your brain and logic.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Girls have such a confused, inflated opinion of themselves that they're barely worth talking to.

Right. Because you're perfect. Its the women who are the problem.

 

[SmooveMooves]

I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but traditional masculinity is dead, just like traditional femininity is dead. Trying to hold onto traditional masculine principles today like honor, building up your community, and "doing the right thing by women" is not going to get you anywhere.

The traditional society is dead, correct but my post is regarding holding yourself to traditional principles. When I bring up shít like pride and passion I mean not compromising your on principles in pursuit of pūssy.

This is the way I see it. You have your view in which you believe you need to become one of 3 types. I understand where you are coming from. I don't agree. No reason we can't have discussion though.

Because we as men are operating in a market that's DOMINATED by women, there's honestly no way to have a truly abundant mentality, no matter how attractive you are and no matter how many plates you have.

Not really following the logic here. There is an asston of women out there. Meaning that women are abundant. Women's domination of the market is irrelevant here. There will always be more women. My point is to come from this mindstate to improve your behavior. It stands.

All of your plates can fall off tomorrow, literally, within hours of each other.

And in a few months you can have a new plate for each one you lost. Abundance.

I've had that happen numerous times.

As have I. Did both of us quit and stop pursuing women?

Plus, with the understanding that we are leasing/renting women and the lease could be CALLED at any random moment......there's no way to truly have an abundant mentality

Abundance mentality is knowing that you are fully capable of attracting women. If you believe there is no way to have this mentality then that is a belief we do not share.

There's NO WAY for any guy on this website to become a dominant powerful man, unless he becomes a very rich celebrity one day.

Come on. The world doesn't work like that and you know it Tenacity. Really? So only celebrites are dominant and powerful?

A lot of the times celebrities have weaker and worse personalities than some people here. They just hide it with cash. I know you know this isn't true.

Men develop oneitis because many of them just will NEVER develop their looks, personality, and finances to the point where they are attractive to enough women to go out and acquire more plates over and over and over again. That's the truth.

So men should do exactly this. You make it sound as if its impossible and therefore not even worth saying.

I tell guys all the time to put women as number 6 or 7 out of their 10 top priorities, but that's not going to change any thing in relation to market forces.

Doesn't need to. This is where every man should have women in their priorites. My post mirrors this.

We don't operate in a vacuum. The Top 1% didn't get there due to some individualized, incredible hulk, super human strength. They got there through networking (relying on other people).

You and another guy took this part quite literally. Obviously to get anywhere you're going to have to network. However, the more problems you can solve yourself the better. This itself means being resourceful. If you yourself become more valuable then you will become the one people are looking to network with and this offers opportunities.

Most guys are just not going to make it. I'm sorry.

Nobody here is trying to be most guys. Basically what your saying is, 'most guys are hopeless. The world is hopeless. Give up.'

 

[SmooveMooves]

Don't know about that bro. We have all gone out with a bunch of girls, and I'm sure there is 1 that we connect better with, have more fun with, like to be with, have more in common with. Even if we all had tons and tons of girls, we would still put a lot more effort and time and energy into the one we like.

This is irrelevant to my point. Abundance mentality doesn't mean you can't like women more than others. It means that you are confident that if you lose them/her you can always go out and get more.

Good idea in theory but it's not reality. 99% of the men on SS would throw out their "virtues" and "goals" to go out with a good looking women and not to be alone on Saturday night.

Which is why the men who don't want to be the average loser hold themselves to principles. Men aren't sacrificing their virtues to be with good looking women. Their sacrificing them to be with fatties, 5s and toxic chicks. If you are confident in your ability to attract women you don't sacrifice what you stand for at all.

As long as he doesn't go bankrupt, sacrifice his assets, or commit emotionally to her, what's the problem?

Self-respect. This is why the cuck fetish is shooting up because of this type of thinking. 'Doesn't matter as long as she fūcks me too!'

I don't like being with women who are swallowing boatloads of semen from different men at the same time. Maybe its just me.

Again, if she looked good and gave good sex, 99% of SS would go out with her.

My point was simply to hold yourself to standards and not be a cuck for your own pride and dignity. If your the type of guy who takes a woman back after she fūcks the entire social circle because she is 'attractive and gives good sex' then there is nothing more I can say. Obviously we don't agree.

You don't think all men would have gone out with and slept with Sharon Stone in the early 90s? She had sex with a lot of guys on screen and in real life.

A smart man fūcks 90s Sharon Stone because she's hot. Men like you date her because you believe its the best you can do.

As long as the girl looks good, the guy will date and sleep with her, slut or no slut.

Which is why my post explained NOT to do this and gave reasons why. You post boils down to: 'men worship pūssy anyway so why stop. As long as nobodies getting hurt.'

To an extent. Rich and powerful didn't get where they are today by themselves. They had connections, family members, friends to help them on their way. I used to think I could do everything myself, big mistake.

You took my post too literally. You are smart enough to know that I didn't mean: don't rely on anyone ever.

Yeah but you need a girl to do it with. OK, you reached your goals at 37 and have an extra $50,000 in your account but are alone Saturday night. OK, you made tons of money at 41 and are rich, but are alone Saturday night. Often the sacrifice we make for money is not worth it if there is no girl involved. The goals are OK but a girl is needed to make it worthwhile.

For one, none of my post mentioned money. Money is not the only thing goals can consist of. Two, focusing on your goals doesn't mean women aren't in your life. It means they are not the main priority.

Come on bro, are you kidding? If you do that you'll have even less of an incentive to find a girl to have sex with and will be more alone on Saturday night.

This response doesn't even make sense. I did not say jerk off before you go out. I said if you find yourself about to make a questionable decision ie. sleep with a fattie, a HB4 etc.

 

[Tenacity]

The traditional society is dead, correct but my post is regarding holding yourself to traditional principles. When I bring up shít like pride and passion I mean not compromising your on principles in pursuit of pūssy. This is the way I see it. You have your view in which you believe you need to become one of 3 types. I understand where you are coming from. I don't agree. No reason we can't have discussion though.

But sir, if the market has changed to where "traditional society" is dead....what profits a guy to hold onto traditional "values/principles"? It would be like if the Stock Market crashed and went away tomorrow, what then profits a guy to have "stock market knowledge"?

You don't have to become one of the three types, but your level of dates/pvssy/plates are going to be limited. You will be walking around with all of your "Don Juan knowledge/Calling yourself the prize" but White Knights/Simps/Beta Fa.ggots will be pulling WAY more a.ss than you.

There is an asston of women out there. Meaning that women are abundant. Women's domination of the market is irrelevant here. There will always be more women.

The number of women v.s. men in the world is not really at play here, because about 50% of women are bisexual/lesbian these days anyway.

When I talk about abundance, I'm talking about the level of EFFORT required to replenish something that runs low/dry. An Attractive Man has to go out into the market and put forth a lot of EFFORT to bring in plates, an Attractive Woman just needs to stand on her porch or slap up an Online Profile.

- An Attractive Man could have 7 plates, but those 7 plates came from approaching 40 women, getting 25 numbers, going on 12 dates, and 7 of the 12 dates turned into plates. That's a lot of EFFORT.

- An Attractive Woman has 25 messages in her OKC inbox, 50 messages in her POF inbox, 10 guys at the gym who want her, 10 guys at her church that want her, and 30 messages in her Facebook inbox. And ALL she had to do was either slap up a picture online or just WALK out the house, very little EFFORT.

There are three types of mentalities, there's the "desperate mentality", the "abundant mentality" and the "worker's mentality". The Unattractive Man has a desperate mentality due to his inability to go out to acquire plates, an Attractive Woman has an abundant mentality due to the guys lined up trying to get with her, and the Attractive Man has a "worker's mentality" due to understanding he has the ABILITY to go out and acquire plates, but he has to put forth EFFORT in order to do so.

Come on. The world doesn't work like that and you know it Tenacity. Really? So only celebrites are dominant and powerful?

A lot of the times celebrities have weaker and worse personalities than some people here. They just hide it with cash. I know you know this isn't true.

Guys like George Clooney, Bruno Mars, Trey Songz, Chris Brown, etc., have women LINED up the block trying to get with them without any EFFORT. These are guys that can claim to be "the prize" and/or claim an abundance mentality. Tenacity nor @SmooveMooves can claim this, as we have to put forth EFFORT building plates. We have to approach 40 or 50 women (then date about 20 of them) in order to build up 5 - 10 plates.

Nobody here is trying to be most guys. Basically what your saying is, 'most guys are hopeless. The world is hopeless. Give up.'

No, I wouldn't say HOPELESS, but the American Dream is dead and the concept of the Traditional Family is dead.

- In replace of the American Dream, you have DEBT and having to work multiple jobs to make ends meet. In addition, you would use social media to create a new world for yourself even though your reality is shyt.

- In replace of the Traditional Family, what you have is a series of short term/lack of loyalty/convenience based relationships where it's all about what I WANT without any sacrifice or actual "need" of the other person for anything other than sexual gratification, companionship, and ego/self-esteem aspects related to "having someone". These relationships can literally END at any time, for any reason, or for no reason. You can SLAP a marriage license on top of this retarded shyt and/or SLAP a LTR "title" on top of this retarded shyt, but in the words of Obama....just because you put lipstick on a pig, it doesn't mean it's no longer a pig.