Men who try to impress by arguing and criticizing

[ThisNThat]

This is pretty interesting, a lot of complaints from women I know, their main complaint is that the men that talk to them, try TOO hard by being purposely argumentative or critical when trying to impress a lady.

I saw this post by a woman, who is a Doctor Who fan. She was in a shoe store and the clerk, also a "Whovian" saw her shirt and said, "Nice shirt, I'm also a a Whovian! Who's your favorite Doctor?"

(I apologize to anyone here that isn't a geek, but this is what I have go on for now, lol)

She tells him, and then shoots himself in the foot by criticizing her choice/tastes in the character. She's like, "If you want to impress me, don't ask me what my favorite thing is, then pick it apart"

There are also men who try to pick an arguement with a woman over anything. They think if they can argue, they think they are impressing them with their intellect, when really being purposely argumentative is a turn off.

Men are under the perspective that they are showing off their intelligence by being critical with a woman, when really in fact they are turning them off.

Doyou know guys like this? THIS is where ti's starting to make sense, it's like they are trying to one-up the lady in a conversation.

 

[ThisNThat]

Men talk to women the way they talk to other men and it is perceived as criticism by High Sensitivity women.

Not sure how they would be considered "high sensitivity", but these are one of the things why some men constantly fail with women.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Ugh, stop with these posts. What do you gain from them? Like seriously, I do not know any guy who is like this. No one 'argues' to impress someone else, much leads the person they're arguing with. Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Shoot, it could have just been some kind of banter like "oh you like that? I think this one is better honestly". You gotta stop making retarded threads everyday because this stuff keeps showing up and I think it'll be something good, but then I realize it's just you who wrote it so then I realize that it's gonna suck.

 

[The Duke]

Folks, @ThisNThat is a woman posing as a guy. Speaks/types indirectly and very wordy just like a chic. Asks tons of questions like a chic. Always asks questions that are aimed at finding out how males think. Every post starts off as I heard or I saw.....these are all made up stories that never happened.

 

[sazc]

My kneejerk response to the op was "so what?". If she's not enjoying the way he is choosing to interact with her, no one is forcing her to stay there, she can leave the situation, and/or the guy.

People are going to have differing opinions. Part of a solid partnership is that two people can conflict, and then resolve to each other's mutual satisfaction. IMO off you meet sometime that rubs you the wrong way, no analysis required. Conclude that they are not right for you and move along.

Then I wondered if you were really talking about the sport we know as negging. Negging is the tactic of putting down the female in an effort to perform an emotional push pull and, ultimately, draw her in. Pity is the female that falls for that and the man that engages in that, and subsequently accepts the female who falls for that. This female has low self esteem, a "low quality" sign, IMO

@ThisNThat once captured a post of mine and changed me on it, leading me to believe that this was a man. However, based on this posters quantity and typical subject, I'm thinking @Howiestern might be correct.

 

[resilient]

Better to be authentic and stating an opinion based off feedback, yet better from a place of validation. I would rather someone disagree than simply agree to keep a conversation going or impress the other person when they aren't being authentic with themselves. Reward the person for answering the question and then add your opinion. At the end of the day, what is the point? You won't be changing their mind or preference (especially of a favorite show or a favorite character).

But ya, what's with all these posts lately? They read like an op-ed from a Cosmo article or chick site. "men this..., men that..." Maybe fitting to your username @ThisNThat

 

[ThisNThat]

Better to be authentic and stating an opinion based off feedback, yet better from a place of validation. I would rather someone disagree than simply agree to keep a conversation going or impress the other person when they aren't being authentic with themselves. Reward the person for answering the question and then add your opinion. At the end of the day, what is the point? You won't be changing their mind or preference (especially of a favorite show or a favorite character).

But ya, what's with all these posts lately? They read like an op-ed from a Cosmo article or chick site. "men this..., men that..." Maybe fitting to your username @ThisNThat

Something wrong with a woman's perspective on how they feel when they are approached with argumentative men? I think they take their online trolldom to the real world unfortunately. lol

You mean, if a thread isn't the typical, "How many women I can bang or get into the sack", it's not worthy of a post here? lol

 

[ThisNThat]

Here's an article by Psychology Today (not Cosmo) stating that men deal feel more outmatched by women when it comes to arguments.

Here's a piece...

In my clinical experience, women tend to see a bigger relationship picture than men, and can more easily relate past events to current happenings. That’s not always true, and sometimes the roles are reversed, but I can’t tell you how many couples I’ve seen sidetracked into destructive and pointless arguments because he’s talking about what’s happening here and now, while she’s talking about larger patterns in the relationship.

 

[bigneil]

• "Men who know women do not argue with them" - Coach Corey Wayne
• "Arguing with a woman is like defusing a bomb, you are better off sending in a robot to do it" - Ron Louis and David Copeland, How to Succeed with Women
• "The most anti-seductive form of language is argument" - Robert Greene, Art of Seduction

When you find yourself about to argue, simply walk away. Use that time to think about things. Usually by the time she misses you and reaches out, you will see her side. It's win/win. You argue with her in your head while away from her, and you work it out, all while making her miss you.

 

[lizardking82]

Here's an article by Psychology Today (not Cosmo) stating that men deal feel more outmatched by women when it comes to arguments.

Here's a piece...

In my clinical experience, women tend to see a bigger relationship picture than men, and can more easily relate past events to current happenings. That’s not always true, and sometimes the roles are reversed, but I can’t tell you how many couples I’ve seen sidetracked into destructive and pointless arguments because he’s talking about what’s happening here and now, while she’s talking about larger patterns in the relationship.

You're a woman. Come out of the closet, we won't do anything to you LOL

 

[devilkingx2]

Ugh, stop with these posts. What do you gain from them? Like seriously, I do not know any guy who is like this. No one 'argues' to impress someone else, much leads the person they're arguing with. Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Shoot, it could have just been some kind of banter like "oh you like that? I think this one is better honestly". You gotta stop making retarded threads everyday because this stuff keeps showing up and I think it'll be something good, but then I realize it's just you who wrote it so then I realize that it's gonna suck.

roasted so hard OP is crispy

 

[devilkingx2]

She tells him, and then shoots himself in the foot by criticizing her choice/tastes in the character. She's like, "If you want to impress me, don't ask me what my favorite thing is, then pick it apart"

translation: how dare you disagree with my opinion

also wow, the ego on that girl to assume that he was trying to impress her by talking about a mutual interest.

she sounds like a b!tch and too dumb to be worth conversing with

There are also men who try to pick an arguement with a woman over anything. They think if they can argue, they think they are impressing them with their intellect, when really being purposely argumentative is a turn off.

Men are under the perspective that they are showing off their intelligence by being critical with a woman, when really in fact they are turning them off.

rookie mistakes, men should know that for the most part women don't give a damn about your intelligence, don't waste time trying to show it off.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

She's like, "If you want to impress me, don't ask me what my favorite thing is, then pick it apart"

Well, it could be he was just seeing her as another Doctor Who fan, not a woman he was trying to impress. Geeks love to argue with each other about various aspects of their shared interest. This is normal.

There are also men who try to pick an arguement with a woman over anything. They think if they can argue, they think they are impressing them with their intellect, when really being purposely argumentative is a turn off.

Again, there's an assumption that every time a guy talks to a woman, he's TRYING to impress her.

Many women would shyte their pants if they found out just how UNIMPRESSIVE some men think they are.

It's one of those double edged swords of feminism. If they REALLY wanted to be taken seriously, most of their "ideas" would be called out for their sheer stupidity, just like dudes to relentlessly to other dudes.

This is one of the dangers of being a woman and expected to be treated for their "mind."

For many ladies, once you separate the "mind" from the "body," there's just not much to work with.

 

[Plums]

This is pretty interesting, a lot of complaints from women I know, their main complaint is that the men that talk to them, try TOO hard by being purposely argumentative or critical when trying to impress a lady.

I saw this post by a woman, who is a Doctor Who fan. She was in a shoe store and the clerk, also a "Whovian" saw her shirt and said, "Nice shirt, I'm also a a Whovian! Who's your favorite Doctor?"

(I apologize to anyone here that isn't a geek, but this is what I have go on for now, lol)

She tells him, and then shoots himself in the foot by criticizing her choice/tastes in the character. She's like, "If you want to impress me, don't ask me what my favorite thing is, then pick it apart"

There are also men who try to pick an arguement with a woman over anything. They think if they can argue, they think they are impressing them with their intellect, when really being purposely argumentative is a turn off.

Men are under the perspective that they are showing off their intelligence by being critical with a woman, when really in fact they are turning them off.

Doyou know guys like this? THIS is where ti's starting to make sense, it's like they are trying to one-up the lady in a conversation.

I don't think that a man having his own opinion about a topic is a problem at all. In fact it makes a nice change when they can think for themselves and sometimes come up with original and coherent arguments.
Have your opinions and be brave, voice them.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Something wrong with a woman's perspective on how they feel when they are approached with argumentative men? I think they take their online trolldom to the real world unfortunately. lol

You mean, if a thread isn't the typical, "How many women I can bang or get into the sack", it's not worthy of a post here? lol

Yes there is. Not everyone likes you, and you were raised to be self centered and egotistic. It's not all your fault because some men were raised wrong too, but to brand all men the same is foolish. Masculinity has many variations and nuances to it, unlike femininity.

Here's an article by Psychology Today (not Cosmo) stating that men deal feel more outmatched by women when it comes to arguments.

Here's a piece...

In my clinical experience, women tend to see a bigger relationship picture than men, and can more easily relate past events to current happenings. That’s not always true, and sometimes the roles are reversed, but I can’t tell you how many couples I’ve seen sidetracked into destructive and pointless arguments because he’s talking about what’s happening here and now, while she’s talking about larger patterns in the relationship.

Because women ARE more emotional than men so they are ABLE to find connections more easily, PLUS they tend to be better at multitasking than men due to less ability to focus, so yes they're able to connect things together. If I'm not mistaken men and women have differing grey:white matter ratios in their brains; if I recall correctly, men have more grey matter and women more white matter. What does this have to do with anything? Men = logic and reasoning, each situation is it's own situation; work is not related to social life, to your car that just broke down, to your friend's aunt's dog's chew toy going missing, etc. Women view things more holistically because their brain is just a jumbled up mess of stuff so they're able to relate things together more. Unfortunately, since 2015 everything regarding this topic no longer exists due to it's controversy within the LGBTQ community, especially because it would completely negate any kind of 'scientific' claim they make about it being 'genetic' or 'natural'.

Don't forget though, the greatest con-artists, crooks, business leaders, politicians, and social figures were all men. The average woman beats the average man in an argument. But an above average man will be on par with, or even beat the BEST women. That's why you only see men lead groups of people, say for nations, corporations, organizations, etc. After all, it was noted in psychology that leaders tend to have higher testosterone levels. And that's just something you cannot compete with .

Argue with me ThisNThat. I'm male. You are female. Show me how much 'better' you are at debating than me. Let's see just how 'outmatched' I am against you.

 

[ubercat]

WTF patterns in the relationship. I totally agree that man have to work hard understanding a woman's communication style. But 20 to 30% of their behaviour can I can only put down to loose wires on hormones. About the same percentage that man let testosterone overcome their brains.

 

[Plums]

Yes there is. Not everyone likes you, and you were raised to be self centered and egotistic. It's not all your fault because some men were raised wrong too, but to brand all men the same is foolish. Masculinity has many variations and nuances to it, unlike femininity.

Because women ARE more emotional than men so they are ABLE to find connections more easily, PLUS they tend to be better at multitasking than men due to less ability to focus, so yes they're able to connect things together. If I'm not mistaken men and women have differing grey:white matter ratios in their brains; if I recall correctly, men have more grey matter and women more white matter. What does this have to do with anything? Men = logic and reasoning, each situation is it's own situation; work is not related to social life, to your car that just broke down, to your friend's aunt's dog's chew toy going missing, etc. Women view things more holistically because their brain is just a jumbled up mess of stuff so they're able to relate things together more. Unfortunately, since 2015 everything regarding this topic no longer exists due to it's controversy within the LGBTQ community, especially because it would completely negate any kind of 'scientific' claim they make about it being 'genetic' or 'natural'.

Don't forget though, the greatest con-artists, crooks, business leaders, politicians, and social figures were all men. The average woman beats the average man in an argument. But an above average man will be on par with, or even beat the BEST women. That's why you only see men lead groups of people, say for nations, corporations, organizations, etc. After all, it was noted in psychology that leaders tend to have higher testosterone levels. And that's just something you cannot compete with .

Argue with me ThisNThat. I'm male. You are female. Show me how much 'better' you are at debating than me. Let's see just how 'outmatched' I am against you.

Your argument hasn't exactly proven your point.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Your argument hasn't exactly proven your point.

They're two separate ideas.

 

[Plums]

They're two separate ideas.

My point being that you seem to have more white matter than grey.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

My point being that you seem to have more white matter than grey.

Maybe so.