Men turning into women?

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Man. I am amazed at the feminity they advertise for men. For example I was looking for some grooming stuff on nelly.com for the upcoming school year, and you will be in shock to find out what they are selling there.

Make ups, eye hair grooming, eyebrow grooming.. Seriously? Fake tanning.. I was amazed. I was looking for some hair stuff but ended up amazed at how much face grooming stuff there are. Like literally almost at the same level at the women.. And one thing I have noticed that I find women more attractive when they are simple and plain in the face. Like a overweighted makeup and stuff in the face is totally turn off for me. Are women turnin into men? Gosh I'm amazed at how society is changing.

Please post your experiences and thoughts of this whole concept of men turning into women, like at a higher rate than ever before. Share some of your shocks and experiences with everyone here

Are we Don Juan's here literally the only one left who are trying to make man more a man. Like those pua industries for example has turned completely into feminitized organizations.
 

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Yep... I keep thinking "what the **** is wrong with the world".

All these guys becoming more feminine and girls becoming more masculine. My fb knows that I hate feminism and agrees with me and was showing me some feminist channel video she found of some stupid idiot woman complaining that there was no lego for girls and when they eventually made it she complained "but it's pink and purple". After a couple of minutes I said "I've had enough of this crap" and turned the video off.

And then on the other side there's all these guys who are like "it's okay to like pink stuff" "it's okay to like little ponies".

Yes it is... if you are a little girl. Or even women I can understand they may be into that, but not grown men.

A little story was I was chatting to a guy I met while playing the Payday 2 Beta (pc game) on steam, and he had a picture of a ****ing pony and was going "oh isn't the picture so cute" and when I said something I was frustrated about he goes.. no ****.. "ooohh *hugs*".

WTF! I haven't talked to him since. He was acting exactly like a girl.

And when I log into my email it has news articles there, I look at the titles and read some of them. There is always a few that piss me off. One I remember that applies was "Now make up is for men" or something and this big announcement that there is makeup specifically for men now and saying how awesome that was.

http://images.wikia.com/cardfight/images/c/c6/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg

(Can I embed photos on this forum?)

Unfortunately they are only 2 little things i've come across like this. It's ****ed up.
 

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Yes there is certainly that trend happening from what I have notised over recent years. Even guys who are fairly alpha have one or two metrosexual traits, tanning, manscaping that is probably seen as pretty acceptable. What you are starting to see particularly in Anglo countries is possibly a culture where some males are more looks obsessed than their female counterparts, that is something I have definetly notised from the gym I train at which has predominantly males in their teens, and it is very rare to see girls of that age, taking care of themselves, they virtually don't seem to care.
 

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This mixing of the genders nothing new. It has been escalating over the past few decades and will continue to escalate. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

I've noticed that a lot of men from Brazil sign their letters and email "Hugs". I had a Brazilian drummer in my band a few years back and I was pretty surprised to see all his email signed that way, then later found that many men from that country do it.

This drummer was a very weak "mama's boy". There's nothing like being in a professional-level band where the drummer is suffering deep depression and anxiety and shows up for gigs late. Needless to say he had massive marriage difficulties and she eventually left him. She really was a great gal, too. Friendly, nice, submissive, the works. She just couldn't take his effeminate, emotional ways. I'll bet dollars to donuts he had no father figure growing up.

Single women are utterly destroying boys. The next generation will be a sight to behold.

Hugs,
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Those products may exist, but few guys buy them.

020204 said:
Yes there is certainly that trend happening from what I have notised over recent years. Even guys who are fairly alpha have one or two metrosexual traits, tanning, manscaping that is probably seen as pretty acceptable. What you are starting to see particularly in Anglo countries is possibly a culture where some males are more looks obsessed than their female counterparts, that is something I have definetly notised from the gym I train at which has predominantly males in their teens, and it is very rare to see girls of that age, taking care of themselves, they virtually don't seem to care.
You using the words "metrosexual" and "manscaping" without even putting quotation marks around them is a sign of the times as good as any.

Cutting away some hair around the genitals is not a bad idea, though. I don't know why it would be considered better to not do that.

"Anglo countries"? Hmm, in countries like Italy they live with their parents, have mama make their bed every day, even into their thirties. But I suppose bashing "Anglos" is always PC.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
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This mixing of the genders nothing new. It has been escalating over the past few decades and will continue to escalate. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

I've noticed that a lot of men from Brazil sign their letters and email "Hugs". I had a Brazilian drummer in my band a few years back and I was pretty surprised to see all his email signed that way, then later found that many men from that country do it.

This drummer was a very weak "mama's boy". There's nothing like being in a professional-level band where the drummer is suffering deep depression and anxiety and shows up for gigs late. Needless to say he had massive marriage difficulties and she eventually left him. She really was a great gal, too. Friendly, nice, submissive, the works. She just couldn't take his effeminate, emotional ways. I'll bet dollars to donuts he had no father figure growing up.

Single women are utterly destroying boys. The next generation will be a sight to behold.

Hugs,
Atom Smasher
hey I have to say since i'm a brazilian, that is not normal, that was his thing, but kids here are complaining like girls, one thing I normally do for then to shut up is say damn you complain more then woman, that make some of then stop talking for some time at least
 

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Whats the problem with the fake tanning now? it makes you look much better and help fixing minor problems when it comes of receding hairline...

Also regarding kissed and hugs, do you know that italian gangsters kiss each other on the cheeks and sometime on the lips, do you find them particularly effeminated?

Its not a single action, you can be the most "high five dude" type but still if u're concerned about what your friends may think or follow some white knight line when it comes of women, you have a problem much bigger than a guy hugging his best friend or going to the solarium.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
This mixing of the genders nothing new. It has been escalating over the past few decades and will continue to escalate. You ain't seen nothin' yet.
Hahaha so true, overall though we're the last of a dying breed. Where fvcking dinosaurs, and the So Suave forum is where we gather to escape the ruthless pussies that are trying to hunt and eradicate us . . .
 

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I don't mind the whole "metrosexual" thing to be honest, I am guilty of it myself. What does make me cringe is the effeminate mannerisms of modern young men, it is now difficult to tell the difference between gay and straight. I also notised a lot of young women have become very masculine in the way the carry themselves, particularly when they walk, pushing in, lack of manners.
 

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Thomson said:
Man. I am amazed at the feminity they advertise for men. For example I was looking for some grooming stuff on nelly.com for the upcoming school year, and you will be in shock to find out what they are selling there.

Make ups, eye hair grooming, eyebrow grooming.. Seriously? Fake tanning.. I was amazed. I was looking for some hair stuff but ended up amazed at how much face grooming stuff there are. Like literally almost at the same level at the women.. And one thing I have noticed that I find women more attractive when they are simple and plain in the face. Like a overweighted makeup and stuff in the face is totally turn off for me. Are women turnin into men? Gosh I'm amazed at how society is changing.

Please post your experiences and thoughts of this whole concept of men turning into women, like at a higher rate than ever before. Share some of your shocks and experiences with everyone here

Are we Don Juan's here literally the only one left who are trying to make man more a man. Like those pua industries for example has turned completely into feminitized organizations.
Dude, whats considered masculine and feminine constantly changes over time.

Men used to wear heels, tie in their guts, powder their faces, and wear wigs. Some of these dudes were our founding fathers as well. And look at Ancient Egypt as well.

Things come and go. I dont really give a damn if a dude cares about looking good. Because at the end of the day, the metro thing works for some dudes, and if they are getting laid doing it, Im not gonna hate. Dude like yourself need to stop whining and realize all this stuff cycles on and off throughout history.

Hell, people used to call skinny jeans gay on men...and now they are trendy again. Theyve had different periods of trendiness throughout the years...from Elvis in the 50s, punks in the 70s, hip hop folks and metals heads in the 80s, and now again in the 2000s after the baggy pants 90s fad died.

It is what it is.
 

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Wolfgang D said:
Those products may exist, but few guys buy them.


You using the words "metrosexual" and "manscaping" without even putting quotation marks around them is a sign of the times as good as any.

Cutting away some hair around the genitals is not a bad idea, though. I don't know why it would be considered better to not do that.

"Anglo countries"? Hmm, in countries like Italy they live with their parents, have mama make their bed every day, even into their thirties. But I suppose bashing "Anglos" is always PC.
well i think part of that problem is mama was raised to do those things so she did when she had kids. mama however probably got married as a teen and expected them to marry someone like her however the social dynamic change on them and they didnt adapt. Mama now does what she was raised and taught to do and boys forever remain boys. its hard to say whos to blame here.

in her day the woman took care of the house. she never expected that social dynamic to change so while she probably raised her girls to be able to take care of a house she never raised her boys to do the same.

Who Dares Win said:
Whats the problem with the fake tanning now? it makes you look much better and help fixing minor problems when it comes of receding hairline...

Also regarding kissed and hugs, do you know that italian gangsters kiss each other on the cheeks and sometime on the lips, do you find them particularly effeminated?

Its not a single action, you can be the most "high five dude" type but still if u're concerned about what your friends may think or follow some white knight line when it comes of women, you have a problem much bigger than a guy hugging his best friend or going to the solarium.
This. it really depends on the culture. some cultures are very much into the hugs and kisses as an informal greeting that is akin to our hand shaking.

Jaylan said:
Dude, whats considered masculine and feminine constantly changes over time.

Men used to wear heels, tie in their guts, powder their faces, and wear wigs. Some of these dudes were our founding fathers as well. And look at Ancient Egypt as well.

Things come and go. I dont really give a damn if a dude cares about looking good. Because at the end of the day, the metro thing works for some dudes, and if they are getting laid doing it, Im not gonna hate. Dude like yourself need to stop whining and realize all this stuff cycles on and off throughout history.

Hell, people used to call skinny jeans gay on men...and now they are trendy again. Theyve had different periods of trendiness throughout the years...from Elvis in the 50s, punks in the 70s, hip hop folks and metals heads in the 80s, and now again in the 2000s after the baggy pants 90s fad died.

It is what it is.
This.

i do think TC is onto something overall. i do think there are clear signs that are not cultural or just what is going on.

the my little pony fans that are adults of which i wonder what will become of these sad souls. grown men listening to girl songs. the current day and age dictates that make up is for women so men wearing it is questionable. the lower testosterone of men today. ive known many men whove said "it would be so much easier to just be a woman" hell ive sadly said it myself i now realize the error of my ways and am trying to change said habits that got me to a point where i said that. young men today seem to by and large have far less muscle than their fathers. i cant count how many young men today are skinny as hell and maybe 130 lbs or less or they are completely obese. things like that are men turning into women.
 
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