Men still want the plantation

[Pandora]

Aba and Preach made a video. I made a comment saying that marriage vs bachelor lifestyle is a case of pick your poison. They both have pros and cons. Marriage sucks and bachelor lifestyle suck. I got a lot of pushback from not only women but also a men. I was surprised. Many men were calling me pessimistic and defending marriage.

The majority of men still have this blue pill fantasy of marriage. They don't want to look at the other side of the coin. Luckily the minority of men are making a huge impact. Marriage is at an all time low. Bridal stores are going out of business.

I wonder if marriage is at an all time low because

1.) The average man can't find a girl that wants to marry him

2.) Men are actually refusing to marry

Based on the pushback I got on my Youtube comment I believe that it is a mixture of the two.

 

[SW15]

It's more of Problem 1 than Problem 2. Consider all of the lonely simps who are OnlyFans pay pigs. The men who are going MGTOW are mostly going MGTOW because women reject them. Women don't care when men go MGTOW because they had already rejected them.

 

[Pandora]

It's more of Problem 1 than Problem 2. Consider all of the lonely simps who are OnlyFans pay pigs. The men who are going MGTOW are mostly going MGTOW because women reject them. Women don't care when men go MGTOW because they had already rejected them.

Yeh what you wrote makes sense. Most men deserve all the suffering they get. Men in general have a co dependance on women that is astounding. SoSuave fools me into thinking most men think like we do. They don't. Its 2023 and they still don't. Wtf

 

[2rings]

I think there are two things at play here:

1 Online porn is highly addictive for men and it ruins their ability to form relationships and functioning right.

and

2 Online dating apps are addictive for women and it completely destroys the women on a drastically addictive level.

In my opinion men can quit online porn and recover eventually, however, women that use online dating can never ever recover because it is just to powerful of an addiction for females to receive a supernatural amount of endless attention without ever lifting a finger. Women cannot recover from online dating addiction because they always know it is there.

for a women, online dating apps are like Golem and the ring. It is the most powerful of addictions

Plantations do not need the internet for basically anything. They need family and hard workers

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I think there are two things at play here:

1 Online porn is highly addictive for men and it ruins their ability to form relationships and functioning right.

and

2 Online dating apps are addictive for women and it completely destroys the women on a drastically addictive level.

In my opinion men can quit online porn and recover eventually, however, women that use online dating can never ever recover because it is just to powerful of an addiction for females to receive a supernatural amount of endless attention without ever lifting a finger. Women cannot recover from online dating addiction because they always know it is there.

for a women, online dating apps are like Golem and the ring. It is the most powerful of addictions

Plantations do not need the internet for basically anything. They need family and hard workers

OLD isn’t crack just for women. Hearing the Jingle on Tinder when a girl matches you is such a dopamine rush. I do miss the highs I got when I was on Tinder It is absolutely a drug.

 

[The Duke]

On the other side of the coin, less women need to marry. They make their own money now days, they don't need the financial support of the man thru marriage anymore.

 

[Solomon]

I think there are two things at play here:

1 Online porn is highly addictive for men and it ruins their ability to form relationships and functioning right.

and

2 Online dating apps are addictive for women and it completely destroys the women on a drastically addictive level.

In my opinion men can quit online porn and recover eventually, however, women that use online dating can never ever recover because it is just to powerful of an addiction for females to receive a supernatural amount of endless attention without ever lifting a finger. Women cannot recover from online dating addiction because they always know it is there.

for a women, online dating apps are like Golem and the ring. It is the most powerful of addictions

Plantations do not need the internet for basically anything. They need family and hard workers

Totally agree I took a break from OLD and went back on about a month ago. There are chicks who have been single for EONS but you know they are going on dates and getting smashed

Matter fact it's so bad in my area now that STD's are going up because of OLD, in 2023 people are hooking up left and right and not using protection

 

[Barrister]

I think there are two things at play here:

1 Online porn is highly addictive for men and it ruins their ability to form relationships and functioning right.

and

2 Online dating apps are addictive for women and it completely destroys the women on a drastically addictive level.

In my opinion men can quit online porn and recover eventually, however, women that use online dating can never ever recover because it is just to powerful of an addiction for females to receive a supernatural amount of endless attention without ever lifting a finger. Women cannot recover from online dating addiction because they always know it is there.

for a women, online dating apps are like Golem and the ring. It is the most powerful of addictions

Plantations do not need the internet for basically anything. They need family and hard workers

Great observation.

I would also expand this outside of online "dating" to social media in general creating this toxicity for women. A woman can make a video of her laying on the beach and get 300 likes and endless comments from thirsty, desperate men telling her how gorgeous she is (even if she is like a HB 6). They become addicted to it and it is hard to say goodbye to that kind of mass adoration for women to be a monogamous relationship long term.

 

[HaleyBaron]

bachelor lifestyle suck.

Bachelor life is the best thing ever. In fact, men were born to be bachelors and **** around. We might get a tribe and some choose to have one woman cause it's easier to manage one than several or the juggling of many women, but marriage is not the same as being a bachelor. Also, both of those guys suck and always have.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It is mostly #1. Men in general want to have a nice submissive wife to have children with. Problem is modern women are the complete opposite of that and are not interested in submitting to 97% of men (mostly due to economics).

Also, both of those guys suck and always have.

Aba and Preach are better than most of the other crack pot grifters on YouTube.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Aba and Preach are better than most of the other crack pot grifters on YouTube.

Im not surprised you say that considering your leanings and values.

 

[Kotaix]

Aba and Preach made a video. I made a comment saying that marriage vs bachelor lifestyle is a case of pick your poison. They both have pros and cons. Marriage sucks and bachelor lifestyle suck. I got a lot of pushback from not only women but also a men. I was surprised. Many men were calling me pessimistic and defending marriage.

The majority of men still have this blue pill fantasy of marriage. They don't want to look at the other side of the coin. Luckily the minority of men are making a huge impact. Marriage is at an all time low. Bridal stores are going out of business.

I wonder if marriage is at an all time low because

1.) The average man can't find a girl that wants to marry him

2.) Men are actually refusing to marry

Based on the pushback I got on my Youtube comment I believe that it is a mixture of the two.

You're missing a third reality here. Women are also just less interested in having a man around in general. Aaron Clarey shared some information from a study in a video yesterday that women over 40, and especially over 60 don't want anything to do with men, period.

Another thing he mentioned is that women are also being completely unrealistic and they are all gunning for the top 10% of men and would otherwise would rather be single than with a guy the consider less than a top 10%er.

I'm mostly against the idea of marriage myself, as is my gf, but we've discussed actually doing it for legal reasons of collecting passports

 

[Pandora]

You're missing a third reality here. Women are also just less interested in having a man around in general. Aaron Clarey shared some information from a study in a video yesterday that women over 40, and especially over 60 don't want anything to do with men, period.

Yes I agree. I did miss this 3rd reality. Aaron Clarey does great work. I have been a fan since like 2012.

 

[SW15]

Aaron Clarey does great work. I have been a fan since like 2012.

"Enjoy the Decline" was released in 2013 and was a great book. Clarey also contributed articles to Return of Kings back in the day.

Women are also just less interested in having a man around in general. Aaron Clarey shared some information from a study in a video yesterday that women over 40, and especially over 60 don't want anything to do with men, period.

Another thing he mentioned is that women are also being completely unrealistic and they are all gunning for the top 10% of men and would otherwise would rather be single than with a guy the consider less than a top 10%er.

All of those 35-50 year old women screaming "Where Have All the Good Men Gone" have plenty of viable options in their friend zone and other orbiters.

For the last 50 years, feminism has told women to "Never Settle!" and women learned that. These 35 or 40+ women who can't get a top tier man would rather exit the market than settle for a mediocre man.

Men in general want to have a nice submissive wife to have children with. Problem is modern women are the complete opposite of that and are not interested in submitting to 97% of men (mostly due to economics).

Mostly any woman who has a bachelor's degree now can make enough money not to depend upon a man. Their bachelor's degree might not qualify them for a salary to buy a luxurious lifestyle but they can survive without a man.

SoSuave fools me into thinking most men think like we do. They don't. Its 2023 and they still don't. Wtf

The typical guy is a thirsty guy on swipe apps and porn tube websites/OnlyFans and has a blue pill ideology.

The reason that Tinder/Bumble/Hinge are sausage fests are because the blue pill normies are still flooding those apps seeking vagina.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I think there are two things at play here:

1 Online porn is highly addictive for men and it ruins their ability to form relationships and functioning right.

and

2 Online dating apps are addictive for women and it completely destroys the women on a drastically addictive level.

In my opinion men can quit online porn and recover eventually, however, women that use online dating can never ever recover because it is just to powerful of an addiction for females to receive a supernatural amount of endless attention without ever lifting a finger. Women cannot recover from online dating addiction because they always know it is there.

for a women, online dating apps are like Golem and the ring. It is the most powerful of addictions

Plantations do not need the internet for basically anything. They need family and hard workers

Age ,relevance and children will always end up humbling women wether they like it or not

Swipe app attention is tainted and most of them know it , women aren't dumb they want attention but only really from certain men they qualify to sleep with

These men are VERY rarely found on swipe apps and again women know it

Go out and ask any attractive woman what her opinion is of a swipe app , most will say they hate them

They are great for average / sub average women who don't get much attention in real life but still have unrealistic expectations of the marketplace

and they are also ok for lazy men who can't be bothered to do the real life work

 

[kavi]

You're missing a third reality here. Women are also just less interested in having a man around in general. Aaron Clarey shared some information from a study in a video yesterday that women over 40, and especially over 60 don't want anything to do with men, period.

Another thing he mentioned is that women are also being completely unrealistic and they are all gunning for the top 10% of men and would otherwise would rather be single than with a guy the consider less than a top 10%er.

I'm mostly against the idea of marriage myself, as is my gf, but we've discussed actually doing it for legal reasons of collecting passports

Bruh all this is true. Women have highers standards these days most women just want the top 10% of men. But the thing is in reality even that doesnt exist because really what the women want is an experience and even rich men cannot provide that because the experience they want of a 'high-quality man' is one that includes physical and emotional attraction and most guys are way low on those scales.

Now you have to understand that men are not keeping up or elevating themselves in those categories because we live in a system that does not allow for that as men just have to work hard in the employment world or hustling world which makes men lose sight of physical and emotional attraction and also there was not enough good ways for men and women to meet and socialise and so many women are not able to 'settle down' with the right guy esp higher quality women.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Men are actually refusing to marry

I would guess that men who have a girl who wants to marry him are a very, very slim minority.

Men aren't getting married because they can't find a girl.

And that's not because they have too high standards.

Because modern men are desperate simps couldn't can't talk a girl into bed to save their lives.

Modern men are the mirror image of modern feminists.

Boring, ugly people with nothing to offer.

Both have rehashed and copied ideas that it's the other team's fault their lives suck.

Which, of course, creates a MASSIVE and desperate market for those peddling ideas that it's not their fault, it's the other team's fault.

 

[SW15]

Men aren't getting married because they can't find a girl.

And that's not because they have too high standards.

Because modern men are desperate simps couldn't can't talk a girl into bed to save their lives.

Modern men are the mirror image of modern feminists.

Boring, ugly people with nothing to offer.

Both have rehashed and copied ideas that it's the other team's fault their lives suck.

Which, of course, creates a MASSIVE and desperate market for those peddling ideas that it's not their fault, it's the other team's fault.

Men aren't getting married because most women are rejecting them. Men go MGTOW after taking a lot of female rejection. Most women don't care when men go MGTOW because they had already rejected those men and those men were already invisible her.

A lot of men are only useful to women in certain circumstances, such as:

1. Being pay pigs on OnlyFans or increasing follower count on Instagram
2. Being a STEM worker who makes phone apps for them. Outside on making the app, they are useless. A lot of STEM workers are incels.
3. Fixing their cars or homes
4. Maintaining crucial infrastructure

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Men aren't getting married because most women are rejecting them.

Disagree.

Most married men got rejected by most women.

Nobody gets married after talking to one or two ladies.

Men aren't getting married because they get rejected after a few attempts and then give up.

 

[SW15]

Men aren't getting married because they get rejected after a few attempts and then give up.

When men give up, it's not a few attempts. It's hundreds or thousands of attempts. It's getting ignored by women on big college campus with thousands of eligible women or in big cities with thousands of potential interactions. It's also being on swipe apps in big cities and getting matches on less than 1% of right swipes.