Men should stop chasing.

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Once a woman has a smartphone she becomes a bad relationship match. The smartphone becomes her husband forever.

A similar thing happens with men who jerk off to online porn.
 

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To the OP:

If all available straight men stopped pursuing broads cold turkey, we'd notice a drastic difference within less than a year.
To understand the brillance of this strategy you need both High IQ AND a a broad understanding of man-woman dynamic,

Most men lack either one.

But this strategy is not really possible because you can't control the action of all men.

The only way to achieve this is :

to find or create environnement where the female/male ration is highly advantageous for men.
I'm talking a 4 women 1 men ratio. ( Private parties, countries, female dominated places, after war, ect)
 

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Once a woman has a smartphone she becomes a bad relationship match. The smartphone becomes her husband forever.
I would not be this extreme But, i agree that woman who don't use social media make better girlfriend thats a fact.
 

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Today, on the other hand, a woman has a handheld device with her at all times where she'll have access to men galore on dating/hookup apps.
I saw a study saying that the average man match rate on dating app is 0.5%, for the average woman it's 40%. And more and more people are meeting online.
I mean, If people don't see that it will be a problem, i don't know what to say.

And with A-I coming in virtual gf, s*x bot, i believe the birth rate will plummet at an alarming rate.
 

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Here's an analogy: In New York City, you might not like all the individual cuisines available. But you at least have a lot more options than you would in Boise. Statistically, you're more likely to find a place to eat that tickles your fancy in New York City than Boise (because of the sheer amount of options in New York City).

The pre-app era was like Boise (as far as the amount of men a woman had to choose from). Today, the dating/sex market is like New York City.

Not if you are looking for quality meals and all they are serving is hot dogs.
 

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When women have a high interest in you, they will make it so obvious (and easy) for you that it will not look like you are chasing or approaching.
I've only been on 2 dates in the past 9 years (and only had free sex once in the past 9 years).

If what you're saying is true, then:

-Hardly any woman has high interest in me.

Or

-As I suspect, I'm basically illiterate at reading a woman's clues of interest.

Maybe a little of both.
 

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To understand the brillance of this strategy you need both High IQ AND a a broad understanding of man-woman dynamic,

Most men lack either one.

But this strategy is not really possible because you can't control the action of all men.

The only way to achieve this is :

to find or create environnement where the female/male ration is highly advantageous for men.
I'm talking a 4 women 1 men ratio. ( Private parties, countries, female dominated places, after war, ect)
You're right, we unfortunately can't control the actions of all men.

I find it sad, however, that a lot of men won't spend a year doing what I've been doing for the past several years (even if it means a much better marketplace for men by the end of that year)
 

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I saw a study saying that the average man match rate on dating app is 0.5%, for the average woman it's 40%. And more and more people are meeting online.
I mean, If people don't see that it will be a problem, i don't know what to say.

And with A-I coming in virtual gf, s*x bot, i believe the birth rate will plummet at an alarming rate.
Yep, the writing is on the wall.

Online is the new way to meet a partner, yet the typical man has a less than one percent match rate.

Disaster.
 

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Men are 10 hornier than women.

Women have thousands of options at their fingertips now due to online dating.

Women have clearly became the choosers.

It’s just logical at that point to let women do the approaching/ showing interest

It’s a waste of time to put in effort only to be discarded bc she has 50 other options to choose from.

It’s just a waste of time.

Men should : learn to enjoy their life single, improve on every aspect, MARKET themselves and let women show their interest.
Women have always been the choosers. You are clearly inexperienced in the nature of women. If you can get 30% of women interested then you are doing very well.

Keep improving, as you become more appealing it gets easier.

If you don't like it then I suggest you take up something where the odds are more in your favor.
 

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Yep, the writing is on the wall.

Online is the new way to meet a partner, yet the typical man has a less than one percent match rate.

Disaster.
So figure out another way if OLD doesn't work for you. What are you doing about that?
 

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I quit cold approaching random girls who don’t throw chosing signals I only do it if it’s easy. Not going out of my way. Keep improving your smv to make it easy 4 yourself.
 

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So figure out another way if OLD doesn't work for you. What are you doing about that?
For me personally, OLD works better.

I've only ever gotten one date the traditional way (expressing interest in a woman in person). The rest have either come from OLD, or the woman came onto me, or the date just sort of happened (with neither party officially making a move).

Same goes for sex. 7 of my 9 free partners have come from online. The other 2 just sort of happened (with neither party officially making a move)
 

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I quit cold approaching random girls who don’t throw chosing signals I only do it if it’s easy. Not going out of my way. Keep improving your smv to make it easy 4 yourself.
Interestingly, even though making a move on a woman I know gives me a panic attack, I've made moves on random broads (cold approaches) with relatively little nervousness.
 

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Interestingly, even though making a move on a woman I know gives me a panic attack, I've made moves on random broads (cold approaches) with relatively little nervousness.
Do it 10.000 times and you’ll get better. Fvck getting rejected it makes u stronger. Part of the game.
 

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Interestingly, even though making a move on a woman I know gives me a panic attack, I've made moves on random broads (cold approaches) with relatively little nervousness.
If she looks at you for longer then 3 seconds smile if she smiles or smiles back plays with her hair comes in front of u talk to her and get her digits. If she doesn’t look your way keep it moving. It’s so easy. If they don’t look at all, you got a problem. Go workout like a maniac and improve your style hair en get paid[/QUOTE]
 

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Before dating app and internet, they did not have this much power as a chooser.
Also, back in the '50s and '60s, in order to live their best lives, women needed to secure a husband to support them financially. That fact evened the playing field considerably. But that role has been replaced by the government, and also by themselves (women are now more likely to get a college degree than men are).
 

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Do it 10.000 times and you’ll get better. Fvck getting rejected it makes u stronger. Part of the game.
I don't think rejection does anything positive for you. However, knowing that you are able to proactively cycle through another 5,000 women in order to get laid gives you strength.
 

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Women have clearly became the choosers
Life is full of folks who can be labeled "choosers", from:

-High-playing employers we'd like to hire us, then keep us on board

-If we're in business for ourselves, clients we'd like to use our services, then continue to do so

-If one is a stand-up, audiences we want to not only laugh at our material, but also continue to consume it

Thus, we do everything in our power to influence those we desire something out of, be that sex, money, or laughter. We've spent the past decade make this stuff appear to far more murky and esoteric than it really is
 

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Theres a big difference between chasing and instigating

A lot of men are talking to themselves in the DM's ,or trying to reply to one word answers, or running around clubs like headless chickens begging for womens numbers - that is chasing

Most Women have abundance by default which gives them the luxury of being picky but here's the caveat

They can't control WHO is interested in them and the vast majority of interest is from men they either don't want to be with or aren't sure about

This is where the "frame" comes into play because as a man all you really need to do is be outcome independent

She can feign disinterest and play her silly little games all she wants you just don't care because your life will go on and there's always another chick around the corner

My attitude has always been I will make the initial effort but she either makes an effort to respond or the interaction goes dead you can't be bending over backwards to try and make women like you it's stupid

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Here's a good example

Met a chick last week we hit it off , shes messaging me constantly we had a date arranged for Sunday

last night she asks me about my past

I answered honestly & unapologetically

She ghosts me .....

Could I have lied and made myself out to be a saint yea sure but that's not who I am

As far as I'm concerned now our date for tomorrow is canceled and we will never speak again . I don't want a judgemental / temperamental woman anyway because she will be a fvcking nightmare later down the line

Some guys would be messaging her stuff like " sorry if that offended you" or some other crap

That is chasing
 
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