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No we are trying to say women have the ability to raise their looks 1-2 points via makeup whereas guys have no such quick fix ability to do the same for theirs
I see. Funny how makeup can look good on women, but look so ridiculous on men. I suppose a lot of that is because of cultural expectations, but it still seems true. Some guys will do things like paint their nails or wear mascara, but since I'm old school (or maybe just old lol) that strikes me as being kind of sketchy.
 
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No sh*t.

Hypergamy. Duh! lol

But a guy with looks, MONEY and status coupled with an attractive personality will keep women longer and easier than any other type of man. He'll have more women to choose from too.
This is the first time I think you acknowledged personality so please grow this insight, because when you preach just looks money and status, you actually contribute to hypergamy by attracting women who are more likely to dump you for a hotter, richer, higher status man. Glad to see that you are realizing personality actually counts for something with some women.
 
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I agree but I'll add:

I have a fun personality, however some women choose me for LMS and not personality. These women are not even a golddigging "type" but that is jut the primary reason they chose me, basically. They will choose other men for other reasons. There is a reason why when you improve LMS you suddenly seem to have a larger dating poor. Its not because suddenly your innate personality is visible to women but because your superficial traits attract more women to those traits.
For sure, those traits, though superficial, are valuable like I mentioned in an earlier reply in this thread. Like Urbanist stated all four are ideal. But because three of the four are less likely to be sustainable forever, having the character and personality could be the sticker to keep a relationship going with a woman who sees value in character and personality.

Also, I think character and personality can help build and sustain for longer, traits like wealth and status and to some extent looks.

It may sound simplistic, but think of older couples you know who stuck together during bad times and really seem to have each other's backs. What traits do these men and women have that keep them together through faded looks, money issues, illness etc.
 

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wow, this is some ground breaking stuff coming from our female representative! Props to AJ84!!! :D
 

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This is the first time I think you acknowledged personality so please grow this insight, because when you preach just looks money and status, you actually contribute to hypergamy by attracting women who are more likely to dump you for a hotter, richer, higher status man. Glad to see that you are realizing personality actually counts for something with some women.
You obviously don't read my posts.

I've always said personality is a factor. But you need looks, MONEY or status to open the door before your personality matters.
 

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It may sound simplistic, but think of older couples you know who stuck together during bad times and really seem to have each other's backs. What traits do these men and women have that keep them together through faded looks, money issues, illness etc.
Fear and desperation.
 
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Let's be honest, very few women value character.
Some women do. Some don't. Some guys don't value character, some do.

It does seem like many people are self centred now with social media stuff and that lends to less value placed on character but there are still lots of people out there that, when they think about who they would want to actually invest in, they will look for character in addition to LMS.

It's easy to say men don't value this or women don't value that, because it makes it easier to treat relationships like a buffet when you feel you can justify treating people a certain way by attributing negative attributes to them. It removes all accountability.

I personally justified treating a guy like crap just because he didn't want to make a commitment. And he was a nice guy who was honest with me and I used the ''men are commitment phobic pigs" to be nasty to him and it was dumb on my part. I could of taken that view and then applied it to every other guy I dated but thank God I didn't because I would be alone with 15 cats right now lol.

I see a lot of people here taking past negative experiences and projecting them into every encounter they have with women who are not those past women who hurt them.
 

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Let's be honest, you have zero experience to claim anyone is projecting their experience lol.
Fair enough. From what I read from some posts, it seems that way. But no I can't claim it. In fact, we don't know each other enough, really, to claim anything here. We are limited by what people write and my impressions are based on that, and I could be totally off the mark, as can other people here.
 

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I see a lot of people here taking past negative experiences and projecting them into every encounter they have with women who are not those past women who hurt them.
As a guy with an unusually high level of dating experience, I can tell you most women are ass-holes and game players.

Maybe their game playing comes from insecurity or fear, but in a man's eyes its just being an ass-hole.

Its hard for women to hurt me these days since I care more about MONEY than women, but I still get disappointed when a woman I think might be different turns out to be just like the others. Its almost like if you dated one woman you dated all of them lol.

The "unicorn" guys talk about here really means a woman who isn't an ass-hole lol.
 
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Its hard for women to hurt me these days since I care more about MONEY than women, but I still get disappointed when a woman I think might be different turns out to be just like the others. Its almost like if you dated one woman you dated all of them lol.

The "unicorn" guys talk about here really means a woman who isn't an ass-hole lol.
Well, when you base the sole of your game on MONEY...lol

Broaden your horizons.
 

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Well, when you base the sole of your game on MONEY...lol

Broaden your horizons.
You reap what you sow. I spent a good 3-4 years attracting low quality damaged women because of my obsession with being "alpha". I haven't had high enough LMS to comment, but I'm sure an obsession with placing all your self worth within LMS will attract a certain type of woman as well. You see that a lot from the LMS guys on here.
 
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I don't use "game".

I'm actually attractive.
It's all a game. Life is a game. All you talk about is MONEY, so naturally I assume that's the angle you're taking. And then I see you weep a little bit about it. How could I not put you on blast?

Edit - I've always disagreed with your emphasis on money, so bleh, plenty of posters do it better than me.
 
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It's all a game. Life is a game. All you talk about is MONEY, so naturally I assume that's the angle you're taking. And then I see you weep a little bit about it. How could I not put you on blast?

Edit - I've always disagreed with your emphasis on money, so bleh, plenty of posters do it better than me.
So you're one of those guys who believes a homeless man can have equal dating options as a millionaire if the homeless guy has enough "game"?

Sorry, but MONEY matters. You don't have to like it.
 

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for a guy with unusually high dating experience you havent told anyone anything useful other than the same logical conclusion that needs no explanation which you take to an extreme.

not one field report, no advice on anyones threads, nothing. just the same old bs. you arent fooling anyone....well except maybe yourself

youre a validation seeker. not evne my gf requires as much attention as you
Put me on ignore.

I'm not going to post based on what you want to hear lol.
 
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