Men need to respect each other more.....

[speed dawg]

Why don't we do this? Why are we so competitive with each other, trying to show alpha traits, taking each other's women just for the pure dominance issue? All these threads about taking someone's wife or fiance or girlfriend, all AFC thinking.

YOU WON'T EVER GET RESPECT UNLESS YOU GIVE IT, first and foremost.

We can't control what women do. We can control what we do. If we'd quit hating on each other, women wouldn't have the power they do, and they wouldn't be as scandalous as they have come to be.

 

[DJDamage]

Why don't we do this? Why are we so competitive with each other, trying to show alpha traits, taking each other's women just for the pure dominance issue? All these threads about taking someone's wife or fiance or girlfriend, all AFC thinking.

Why do Men build towers, castles, cities and go to war? its about power and ego's. One can argue that being on sosuave is also a desire for power and dominance, after all most of us wanted to surronded by beautiful women since the age of 11 and beyond, not only because of the sex but because we SAW OTHER MEN DO IT and we became ENVY of THEM and THEIR ABILITIES which helped shape our desire for more.

I think trying to take another guy's girl or wife is as a result of an unfulfilling desire for conquest. Its alot easier to apporach and seduce a single female as oppose to one that is already spoken for therefore the taboo of it and the desire for conquest is high. Those days its hard to tell when a woman is taken because she often trade up when someone better comes along and then dumps the other guy. The guy she traded up for often doesn't have the slightest idea that when he approached her and got her number she was actually seeing someone else and dump that guy for him. The boyfriend doesn't have a clue that his woman was on the lookout for another man and he was already gone 2-3 months ago but she was waiting until she can latch on to the new branch more tightly before she let go of the old one.

Its not only the fault of men that women have become more and more crafty and manipulative to get what they want. Society and its laws dictate this. Maybe we can blame our ancestors for this new reality in which we are born or in other words shackled into this existence.

YOU WON'T EVER GET RESPECT UNLESS YOU GIVE IT, first and foremost.

Respect in the eyes of whom? society? your coworkers? your friends?? Those who seek respect often don't get it and they live in an existence filled with lies.

I think the most important thing you can respect in this world is YOURSELF. If you can respect and live by your own actions and rules then everything will realigned itself accordignly. You live by the sword and you will die by the sword.

We can't control what women do. We can control what we do. If we'd quit hating on each other, women wouldn't have the power they do, and they wouldn't be as scandalous as they have come to be.

Maybe on sosuave I would agree since we are a part of a community but out there in the world we are surronded by a bunch of cry baby AFC's who live in a fast food culture where they put so little effort in something and they expect a bigger reward for that something. As you go on in your daily life you will run into many grown men out there who will hate you for BEING YOU. Envy and jealousy is rampant in society and everyone is looking out after number 1. If a woman who has a boyfriend decides to climb into my bed, I am not responsible for her relationship with her boyfriend.. I don't have magic powers that I "stole" this woman away from him. She was unsatisfied (lower interest) and therefore she came to me and wanted this to happen. Women are not children they have a brain and they decided to make that decision. You can almost say that I have saved this AFC from farther headache's down the road where 10 years from now when he is married to her with 3-4 kids, she all of the sudden cheats on him and takes away half in the divorce settlement while he has to live off scraps in order to pay child alimony for 20 years for each child!

 

[speed dawg]

These two:

Why do Men build towers, castles, cities and go to war? its about power and ego's.

I think the most important thing you can respect in this world is YOURSELF.

do not jive with each other. I agree with the second. The first is about competition. Human's have it, no doubt. But it's about self control, controlling that competitive instinct. That's what makes us different from animals.

I think trying to take another guy's girl or wife is as a result of an unfulfilling desire for conquest. Its alot easier to apporach and seduce a single female as oppose to one that is already spoken for therefore the taboo of it and the desire for conquest is high.
Its not only the fault of men that women have become more and more crafty and manipulative to get what they want. Society and its laws dictate this. Maybe we can blame our ancestors for this new reality in which we are born or in other words shackled into this existence.

For some guys, yes, and that sh1t sucks that they don't respect those men more. Doesn't make it right. And I would argue that MOST men who go after attached women got some sort of "IOI" or something that got them fired up and they developed one-itis because it's the only girl they happened to luck into talking to that year. This forum has many examples of this.

Women are not children they have a brain and they decided to make that decision. You can almost say that I have saved this AFC from farther headache's down the road where 10 years from now when he is married to her with 3-4 kids, she all of the sudden cheats on him and takes away half in the divorce settlement while he has to live off scraps in order to pay child alimony for 20 years for each child!

No doubt. But maybe, just maybe, by respecting each other we can take a step forward in correcting this sort of thing? By not letting women get away with it? Of course, the AFC husband has to change too, but at least knowing a wife wouldn't cheat would be headed in the correct direction.

We have to be able to conquer the power of the puzzy. I mean, so many guys are just powerless to say "no" if his best friends wife comes up to him naked. What SHOULD happen, is the guy say "no", tell his friend, then his friend should divorce his wife. Due to AFC's, this NEVER could happen, even between best friends.

 

[DJDamage]

No doubt. But maybe, just maybe, by respecting each other we can take a step forward in correcting this sort of thing? By not letting women get away with it? Of course, the AFC husband has to change too, but at least knowing a wife wouldn't cheat would be headed in the correct direction..

By not letting women getting away with it is essentially seperating the Man from the boys. Real Man don't let women get away with it. Boys let woman get away with it as long as they can get access to her pvssy. Therefore an AFC husband does not often become AFC after many years of marriage , he was already an AFC prior to the marriage by either allowing the woman to stomp him during their dating period or selecting a poor quaility women (aka golddigger, criminal past, cheating history) to enter his life.

We have to be able to conquer the power of the puzzy. I mean, so many guys are just powerless to say "no" if his best friends wife comes up to him naked.

Your right. It seems pvssy has a price those days and if you compare it to the stockmarket and trading, pvssy will be worth as much as gold in terms of value to many hopless men. Therfore the AFC will fvck his best friend wife because the value of her pvssy is worth more then the friendship.

What SHOULD happen, is the guy say "no", tell his friend, then his friend should divorce his wife. Due to AFC's, this NEVER could happen, even between best friends

Unfortuntly due to the pvssy being worth as much as gold that is not going to happen between many men. The man who would tell the other man that his wife tried to seduce him will probably be told to get the fvck away from him and his family. The husband would be in denial and think this was an isolated case and he must remove the friend away from his wife in order to protect his access to the pvssy. In actuality if it wasn't going to be the friend, it will be someone else down the road.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

On the subject of men's inability OR unwillingness to respect each other's territory when it comes to O.P.P. (Other People's Pussssy):

Any man who cannot resist pusssy under ANY circumstances has allowed himself to mature to a level NO HIGHER than the LOWEST of animals.

ANYTHING that you can't say NO to, is your MASTER. And YOU are it's SLAVE.

 

[speed dawg]

ANYTHING that you can't say NO to, is your MASTER. And YOU are it's SLAVE.

That has now been added to my signature.

 

[Drum&Bass]

hmmm....I think you might have made up some imaginary drama

Why are we so competitive with each other, trying to show alpha traits

its called motivation and inspiration, needed for improvement.

taking each other's women just for the pure dominance issue

I'm sure this kind of thing happens but it is very rare for a guy to take another guys girl just to prove he can...who respects a man for "bangin' used goods/hors/ship jumpers??"

All these threads about taking someone's wife or fiance or girlfriend

theres a difference between intentionally going for a taken woman and a taken woman intentionally going for you ! I've never really seen or heard of a guy that said.."yea she's married eating some other guys jizz but i'm gonna hook up with her anyways cause i'm da man"...men just don't do that kinda thing

YOU WON'T EVER GET RESPECT UNLESS YOU GIVE IT, first and foremost.

O RLY ?

We can't control what women do. We can control what we do

NICE !! i don't think any of us had a clue until you mentioned it

If we'd quit hating on each other, women wouldn't have the power they do, and they wouldn't be as scandalous as they have come to be.

what dee hell are yu talking about ?!?!

 

[joekerr31]

id reframe this whole post by saying that people need to be more respectful of each other. young people, old people, black, white, handicapped, fat, thin, etc.

society as a whole has become very uncooth. its sad in many ways. we are losing our way i believe. slowly decending into a world of narcissistic individuals. yet ironically such individuals are more than capable of supporting macro issues like global warming and recycling - for some reason on a micro level they are incapable of respecting other human beings.

even institutes which should have a higher understand of respect like the government and the church are out there trashing various demographies.

its truly astounding that after all these years of evolution we have yet to evolve into sophisticated enlighted human beings. we're still just a bunch of hairless monkey's running around looking for a hole to stick our d*cks in (or a d*ck to stick in our hole in women's cases).

even with the internet, instead of global unity we have 1 gazillion billion terabytes of porn.

oh well. that's life.

 

[STR8UP]

oh well. that's life.

This pretty much sums it up for me.

You can be a crusader and "do the right thing", or you can acknowledge the fact that behind the pretty facade the world is an ugly place.

You see a fresh coat of paint and assume that the structure is solid, but it's far from. Truth of the matter is, 99.999999999% of the rest of the population (including more of your friends than you would think) have absolutely ZERO respect for you. Why should you have respect for them?

I agree with Damage and D&B.

I have never actively pursued a chick who is married or in a relationship. But at the same time I wouldn't turn one away, married or not, if there is something in it for me.

I would even go so far as to say that the majority of women who pursue me are in some sort of a relationship. I would be a fool to pass up opportunities out of respect for a person who if put into the same situation would most likely have no respect for me.

It has nothing to do with dominating other men. It isn't AFC thinking.

It's PRACTICAL, real world thinking. It's evolution. It's human nature.

You can play the sex game how you wish, but at the end of the day you are cheating yourself out a good percentage of available opportunities by "respecting" other men and their relationships.

As Damage said, women are responsible for their own actions. And we all know that they tend to be insecure and afraid of being alone, so the ONLY THING THEY KNOW is to swing the vines.

Does this increase the chances that she will do the same thing to you in the future? I'm sure it does. But by how much?

The sad fact is that the majority of women are in some form of relationship 90% of the time. Especially the desirable ones. If you want to limit yourself to only women who appear single (thats right, you don't always know the real deal), you're leaving a good percentage of them for me. Thank you.

 

[DJsomeday]

id reframe this whole post by saying that people need to be more respectful of each other. young people, old people, black, white, handicapped, fat, thin, etc.

society as a whole has become very uncooth. its sad in many ways. we are losing our way i believe. slowly decending into a world of narcissistic individuals. yet ironically such individuals are more than capable of supporting macro issues like global warming and recycling - for some reason on a micro level they are incapable of respecting other human beings.

even institutes which should have a higher understand of respect like the government and the church are out there trashing various demographies.

its truly astounding that after all these years of evolution we have yet to evolve into sophisticated enlighted human beings. we're still just a bunch of hairless monkey's running around looking for a hole to stick our d*cks in (or a d*ck to stick in our hole in women's cases).

even with the internet, instead of global unity we have 1 gazillion billion terabytes of porn.

oh well. that's life.

Wise post man, really wise! i agree with you

 

[Vulpine]

Bro's before Ho's.

When a friend of fifteen years cuts you out of his life because his wife (whom he's only known for a year total) "doesn't like you"... you'll see how little credit this little saying actually gets.

Having been in the service, "I got your back" has carries a lot of weight with me. There is a little more dimension to "bro's before ho's" to me than to the average joe.

Far too often, I'm ashamed of guys I know for their behavior. Fux!

Even Stevie Nicks sings about the core essence of "bro's before ho's":

"Thunder only happens when it's raining. Players only love you when they're playin'. Women: they will come and they will go. When the rain washes you clean you'll know."

Women come and go... but a good (male) friend will still be there through many storms. (yes, it's not exactly what she's trying to say, but it can be interpreted as such)

It's a shame that guys don't hold their friends, and other men, in higher regard.

 

[speed dawg]

You can be a crusader and "do the right thing", or you can acknowledge the fact that behind the pretty facade the world is an ugly place.

Guess we gotta separate the men from the boys. You gotta do what you gotta do.

I have never actively pursued a chick who is married or in a relationship. But at the same time I wouldn't turn one away, married or not, if there is something in it for me.

I would even go so far as to say that the majority of women who pursue me are in some sort of a relationship. I would be a fool to pass up opportunities out of respect for a person who if put into the same situation would most likely have no respect for me.

It has nothing to do with dominating other men. It isn't AFC thinking.

It's PRACTICAL, real world thinking. It's evolution. It's human nature.

You can play the sex game how you wish, but at the end of the day you are cheating yourself out a good percentage of available opportunities by "respecting" other men and their relationships.

As Damage said, women are responsible for their own actions. And we all know that they tend to be insecure and afraid of being alone, so the ONLY THING THEY KNOW is to swing the vines.

We'll have to agree to disagree. You're a cool guy, I've read alot of your posts for awhile, so it ain't no thang. I guess what separates me is my Christian faith, and alot of you may not agree with me.

 

[mahon83050]

Why don't we do this? Why are we so competitive with each other, trying to show alpha traits, taking each other's women just for the pure dominance issue? All these threads about taking someone's wife or fiance or girlfriend, all AFC thinking.

YOU WON'T EVER GET RESPECT UNLESS YOU GIVE IT, first and foremost.

We can't control what women do. We can control what we do. If we'd quit hating on each other, women wouldn't have the power they do, and they wouldn't be as scandalous as they have come to be.

I agree with you. I am Christian as well (Catholic) and try and live by the words " Treat other people the way you would like to be treated."

If some hot girl is at a bar/club with her boyfriend right there, I sure as hell am not going to try and pick her up. Why? I sure as hell would not want that happening to me. Unfortunately, you do see other guys hitting on another mans girl right in front of him (blatant disrespect)

I also try and avoid hating on other guys who have hot girlfriends. Why? Besides it being an insecurity issue, I would not want other guys hating on me for the same reason.

I am all about respect. One thing that gets my blood boiling are those who have none at all.

 

[speed dawg]

I agree with you. I am Christian as well (Catholic) and try and live by the words " Treat other people the way you would like to be treated."

If some hot girl is at a bar/club with her boyfriend right there, I sure as hell am not going to try and pick her up. Why? I sure as hell would not want that happening to me. Unfortunately, you do see other guys hitting on another mans girl right in front of him (blatant disrespect)

I also try and avoid hating on other guys who have hot girlfriends. Why? Besides it being an insecurity issue, I would not want other guys hating on me for the same reason.

I am all about respect. One thing that gets my blood boiling are those who have none at all.

It's so true, and it happens all the time. I know of 2 or 3 guys that hit on my girlfriend at work all the time. They don't know me at all. All they know of me is a picture of us at her work station (she's a cosmetologist). But they constantly talk sh1t about how how rich they are, how she should date a guy like them, all the stuff they buy and do. We laugh about their insecurity and jealousy all the time.

It's amazing the biggest AFC's are the ones you'd never expect. AFC's usually don't respect anyone because they don't respect themselves.

I won't be a part of trashing guys I don't know. Girls like to gossip to my gf about that crap then she tells me. Even if I do know them, it's not my business.

 

[mahon83050]

It's so true, and it happens all the time. I know of 2 or 3 guys that hit on my girlfriend at work all the time. They don't know me at all. All they know of me is a picture of us at her work station (she's a cosmetologist). But they constantly talk sh1t about how how rich they are, how she should date a guy like them, all the stuff they buy and do. We laugh about their insecurity and jealousy all the time.

It's amazing the biggest AFC's are the ones you'd never expect. AFC's usually don't respect anyone because they don't respect themselves.

I won't be a part of trashing guys I don't know. Girls like to gossip to my gf about that crap then she tells me. Even if I do know them, it's not my business.

Yes, as it has been said before: Haters and those who get jealous easily have low self esteem. I know so, because i notice I get jealous and hate alot more easily when I do not feel good about myself.

Same goes for those who start bar fights (which I never did, nor do). Their self esteem is low and they need to prove something to themselves or others.

 

[Infraction]

I think the most important thing you can respect in this world is YOURSELF. If you can respect and live by your own actions and rules then everything will realigned itself accordignly. You live by the sword and you will die by the sword.

Exactly, if you want to be taken seriously so take yourself seriously.
This is the point, i respect people which respect themselves.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Troops,


There was a time when I used to be open to going after girls who I KNEW already had boyfriends. I would usually tell myself, or SHE would even tell me that she's messing around with me because she's "unfulfilled sexually or whatever," and that I'm really doing her a favor by sexing her.

But even in the cases where that were true, I FINALLY realized that the woman was usually using me as Victory Unlimited - The Amazing Living Dildo: Now---with Piston Action!!!!, and that she actually had NO OTHER use for me.

Now that's fine, if that's ALL you are about, to each his own. But my personal code of ethics could not, and will not allow such a pseudo "relationship" to continue.

Now, if I didn't KNOW she had an exclusive boyfriend, then I'd just go on my Mack-daddy Manuevers as usual, until I find out otherwise----which has been the case MOST of the time for me.

In this morally ambiguous age of Fukk Buddies and Friends with Benefits, I'm finding it DEPRESSINGLY even MORE rare to find a woman who even ADMITS to having a boyfriend! LOL

Over the past year, I've realized that if great sex (and yeah, I know it's great because I ALWAYS count their multiple orgasms...because the tension-release mechanism in women's bodies DON'T LIE...lol), great personality, great compatability, and great confidence WAS NOT enough to make these particular women leave the other guy and be with me-----then it would also NOT be enough for these particular women to STAY with me either, even if they did leave the other guy.

Always, my intentions were the same: Meet an attractive woman, BE THE MAN, open myself up to all possibilities, then see where it leads. But to be honest, in my opinion, a woman who'd rather cheat on her boyfriend or husband in order to fukk YOU, but DOESN'T leave HIM-----is just another category of Attention Whorre that ACTUALLY gives it up.

What men HERE need to realize is that YOUR character and the character of the woman you're dealing with determines the KIND of relationship you can have with her.

Read the above statement again----and OUT LOUD, but only if you're alone...lol

Some men and women just don't have the right values or the moral integrity to be in a one on one relationship----and they should stop PRETENDING by "frontin" like they can. THAT'S one of the biggest causes of cheating----faking like you've arrived at a certain "relational" maturity level when down deep, you KNOW you HAVE NOT.

Call me a selfish muthafukka if you wish, but I'm at a point in my life now whereas it's not fulfilling enough for me to just temporarily USE a woman for sex-----I'd rather have the option of OWNING her in every other category as well.




Peace...one day.

 

[STR8UP]

In this morally ambiguous age of Fukk Buddies and Friends with Benefits, I'm finding it DEPRESSINGLY even MORE rare to find a woman who even ADMITS to having a boyfriend! LOL

Aint that the truth!

Really though, I have been finding that lately (only very recently) the chicks fess up to having a man WHILE they are trying to game me. I don't thik that's a very good sign!

MANY, MANY women only bring up a husband or boyfriend once they have determined that nothing is going to happen with YOU. Sad but true. I see it all the time.

Always, my intentions were the same: Meet an attractive woman, BE THE MAN, open myself up to all possibilities, then see where it leads. But to be honest, in my opinion, a woman who'd rather cheat on her boyfriend or husband in order to fukk YOU, but DOESN'T leave HIM-----is just another category of Attention Whorre that ACTUALLY gives it up.

I agree, and as such I generally don't look at a cheating woman as LTR material. But for a short term thing (which is what I'm after) it's a different story.

Call me a selfish muthafukka if you wish, but I'm at a point in my life now whereas it's not fulfilling enough for me to just temporarily USE a woman for sex-----I'd rather have the option of OWNING her in every other category as well.

Feels good, but that's too much hassle for me. To each his own!

 

[Steele]

LOL to Don Juan STR8UP. You speak so much sense.

 

[Delta]

meh.

not everybody DESERVES respect. no amount of GIVING RESPECT will net you any if you're not worthy of it.

delta