Men have more value then Women not the other way around

[Stagger Lee]

Mine did.

Adult life is not high school. What makes someone a top guy in high school is not the same as what makes someone a top guy in life. If you make yourself into a man of value, you WILL reap dividends. And for most men, it takes some time to forge yourself into a man of value. So you very well may find your options peaking in your 30s or even later.

I don't tend to think in terms of girls who are 18 though. Nothing wrong with that, I guess, but even when I was in my mid 20s, I tended to want to avoid girls who weren't at least drinking age. Most guys talk about girls 18-24 as being peak, I have usually thought 24-27.

You would be the exception and not the rule since most men that I know once they got into their 30's they started to see a decline in the amount and quality of young attractive women they can get.

We might be talking about apples and oranges here. I wasn't really talking about high school or even college for that matter. My comments were that a man's prime to get women 21-28 years old is mid 20's to early 30's. There's no value in being a 30 to 40-something year old male. Nowadays even the 30 to 40-something aged women are dating younger men.

I've been out to the bars literally 1000's of times where 20-somethings is the crowd and basically never see more than one or two guys over 30 and never see one getting anywhere with the girls. Only online does the older man have more or even the same value.

 

[Fatal Jay]

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Stagger lee I see your threads around here and your opinion doesn't shock me,cause you put women on a high pedestal

What the hell would a 30 on up still be doing in the clubs anyway, you still missing the point in my thread, plus the majority of cats that's 30 and above club life declines

You put women higher then you that's why you make threads like you do wondering if the girl has high interest levels in you

I can tell you young because it's about quality not quantity, I rather have three hb9s then 30 hb7s

 

[Stagger Lee]

And lets be honest with ourselves here. Being a stay at home Mom is not a job OK?! I would much rather cook a couple meals, wash some clothes, and drive a couple errands than work any day. Work is far more stressful. There's no school to learn how to be a stay at home mom. There's a reason for that... because it's common sense and easy. I mean c'mon if I had to do that and make sure I banged my wife when she got home and give her a good carpet muching it would be a thing of fantasy for me. Exercise and stay fit... c'mon... Do it for her? Get real. That's easy street.

Just because you can complain about something doesn't make it a problem.

The reason we see women as valuable is because men want them, if we didn't desire them anymore they would not be as valuable, while we would still retain our worth. Women are incapable of taking care of themselves by themselves. Sure some are more capable than others, there's always the exception. But c'mon... a world run by woman alone? impossible...

Look at it this way... lets say that every man had a disease that rendered them sterile, and we really didn't enjoy sex that much. What would happen then? Would you go through the expense and trouble of dating and picking up women? Would you still pay to marry a woman? Would you still risk half of your assets to marry a woman? Would you do anything a woman asks you to do? (thats not your mother)

Of course women aren't objectively as valuable vs men. Basically only their pvssy has value because it is offered in short supply vs demand. They use this simple advantage to level all kinds of advantages over men, and use men to opress other men. Only a small percentage of men hold value-the best looking, wealthiest and powerful, since only a small percentage of men maybe 10% or 20% or less is needed to fully impregnate all the women. I'm not saying that is idea and reduces genetic diversity, only that it's all the sexualized, empowered men that are required.

Women always had their natural power/advantage of being in short supply sexually. The problem today is men gave women every other advantage or more of being a man. Women now hold both cards. What men as a society have done or allowed regarding the sexual market is analogous to giving up agriculture and taken up hunting and a harsher existence for themselves. They threw away higher reasoning to play the game the way women want the game played.

 

[Stagger Lee]

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Stagger lee I see your threads around here and your opinion doesn't shock me,cause you put women on a high pedestal

What the hell would a 30 on up still be doing in the clubs anyway, you still missing the point in my thread, plus the majority of cats that's 30 and above club life declines

You put women higher then you that's why you make threads like you do wondering if the girl has high interest levels in you

I can tell you young because it's about quality not quantity, I rather have three hb9s then 30 hb7s

Pure ad hominen nonsense. I thought you were better than that. Where pray tell are you going to find these "three HB9s" if not at clubs, not at work, not online where your age is prominently on display etc? Some other special venue that no one has eye witnessed where older men meet hot, young women since they can't do it in clubs where a large number of these women are? I don't believe there's any such thing as an HB9 who is older than mid 20's in the first place.

I put women on a high pedestal lol. No, I'm the guy pointing how they are already on a high pedestal and shouldn't be. I'm just reporting the truth as it is, not creating it. Ignoring reality doesn't change it. I could say denying it is just a defense mechanism because you have women on a pedestal. I can admit that women have been placed on a pedestal because women aren't really that important to me. You know who else denies women have all the advantages? Feminist and "AFCs".

 

[SgtSplacker]

Lets also bear in mind that life does not exist only in the clubs or circles you guys subscribe to. In Miami there are high roller clubs... I mean really high roller clubs. What you see there are HB10s, perfect dimes with old farts that are obviously loaded. Let me be clear, these are perfect women wearing several thousand dollars in clothes. Just because a hot college girl rejects some scrub hanging in a club with $20 admission if that, doesn't mean older men buying $1000 champagne bottles are getting rejected across the board also. There are no clubs (ZERO) where older uglier women can pick up young guys like that. And people in that circle know what those clubs are all about, so do the girls that's why they go there. Nothing declines after 30 if you make money. What happens is that the income curve or your competition takes a hike straight up.

In this world cash is king, if you have it the world is yours. And more men have it than women.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Lets also bear in mind that life does not exist only in the clubs or circles you guys subscribe to. In Miami there are high roller clubs... I mean really high roller clubs. What you see there are HB10s, perfect dimes with old farts that are obviously loaded. Let me be clear, these are perfect women wearing several thousand dollars in clothes. Just because a hot college girl rejects some scrub hanging in a club with $20 admission if that, doesn't mean older men buying $1000 champagne bottles are getting rejected across the board also.

But that is great wealth buying gold diggers. Wealth is the advantage not being older in itself. Imagine being wealthy plus young and attractive to women. Heck these women probably slvt around on the sidewith good looking younger broke guys.

There are no clubs (ZERO) where older uglier women can pick up young guys like that. And people in that circle know what those clubs are all about, so do the girls that's why they go there. Nothing declines after 30 if you make money. What happens is that the income curve or your competition takes a hike straight up.

I don't know, I see every club as being a place where an older ugly woman could get picked up by a young good looking guy.

In this world cash is king, if you have it the world is yours. And more men have it than women.

Very few men have that kind of cash, way under 5%. You have better odds of just being a top looking guy. So you have to be a top looking guy or a top wealthy guy, yet women don't have to be either. Doesn't sound like parity to me.

 

[VladPatton]

Screw all that shyt lol, I'd rather be 40, own the club, get all those mudderphuckers' money, and bang the bizn!tches at the same time. There's your high a$$ value.

 

[zekko]

most men that I know once they got into their 30's they started to see a decline in the amount and quality of young attractive women they can get.

I'm sure that's true for a lot of men. But if you put in the work while you're in your 20s, and build a good life for yourself, you can put yourself in a good position when you get a little older. Not everyone builds themselves into a man of value. And some guys just have bad luck (lose their hair, have health problems, etc).

There's no value in being a 30 to 40-something year old male.

That's going a little too far, I think. By the time I got into my 30s I was much more sure of myself and comfortable that I knew how things should be done. There's a certain confidence and maturity (and even wisdom) that comes with experience, and women will be attracted to it if you present it properly.

Nowadays even the 30 to 40-something aged women are dating younger men.

Heh, probably because the guys their age are dating younger women. I really think the whole "cougar" phenomenon is nothing more than older women figuring out that they can use the high hormone driven horniness of younger men to their benefit. I bet most of the time, these younger guys are striking out with girls their age, and that's why they turn to the cougars.

I've been out to the bars literally 1000's of times where 20-somethings is the crowd and basically never see more than one or two guys over 30 and never see one getting anywhere with the girls. Only online does the older man have more or even the same value.

What little I've seen of online dating indicates that older guys have little to no value online. Women don't seem to think they will appreciate older men, but when you charm them in person it's a different story. If you're the right guy, it doesn't matter how old you are.

As for the bar scene, I tired of that while I was in my 20s. I think part of the appeal of an older man is that he is more mature than the other guys a girl's age. She will be impressed that you have more important things to look forward to in your life than getting wasted all weekend. Unless she's nothing but a bar skank herself, of course.

I think Backbreaker had a post talking about how you don't want to act like another 22 year old when you're older. That's when it starts to be creepy. You have to show that you are from a different, better world - one that she hasn't seen before, and that she would like to explore. Mature and sophisticated. A lot of your appeal, and what sets you apart as an older man, is that you're not like all the other brain dead douchebag guys she knows.