Men Don't Chase Women?

[TheMonkeyKing]

I listen to a lot of his stuff and - am reading his book. To be honest, he talks a lot of sense and pretty consistent stuff. He keeps is simple.

Unfortunately this thread has not grasped the detail of his message. He doesn't say never approach chicks or whatever. He simply just says be outcome independent, treat all women the same, focus of masculinity and feminity.

People should really study material before they start critiquing it. Like Corey Wayne says, study the book 10-15 times before you know it. And for info, he's done thousands of videos and gives his book for free. I personally found it so insprirational, I bought it.

 

[Suspens]

But I don't see how his looks are anything more than average.

He looks like james hetfield, who is model material.

 

[devilkingx2]

Two schools of thought when it comes to hot women:

1) Act really aggressive, use game
2) Act aloof as if you have a lot of options and don't give a fvck about Her

I don't know which is right, but I do know that pursuing women constantly makes one feel like an AFC. A true DJ doesn't need to approach much; for example I doubt NBA players talk to random girls at clubs they usually have a table and the hot girls come to them.

The thing is acting aloof will lead to fewer opportunities so I understand the need to be aggressive.

I think you're ideally supposed to do both.

when she's around you aggressively pursue her, but if she's not around/near you/able to be gamed by you at this particular moment then you forget she exists and live life.

 

[zekko]

He looks like james hetfield, who is model material.

I don't see any James Hetfield in him. To me, he looks a little like Brett Favre, but goofier. But I'm not a chick, so I'm not going to find him attractive.

Unfortunately this thread has not grasped the detail of his message. He doesn't say never approach chicks or whatever. He simply just says be outcome independent, treat all women the same, focus of masculinity and feminity.

People should really study material before they start critiquing it. Like Corey Wayne says, study the book 10-15 times before you know it

Well, the reason I started this thread was because I was trying to get some clarification on what he meant.

But it strikes me that if you have to read something 10-15 times before you understand what he's saying, then either the subject is incredibly complicated, or he's doing a sh!t poor job of saying it.

If his video is trying to say approach chicks and be outcome dependent, why doesn't he say that? Instead of calling the video "Men who chase women are feminine and submissive"? He never once talks about approaching chicks, he talks about focusing on his friends and the chicks will approach you.

And by the way, if all he's trying to say is be outcome dependent, there is nothing new or exciting in that. Everybody under the sun in the community says that.

 

[Tenacity]

Were does Megan Goode fit into your rating system? What about Serena Williams? What about "sweetness" on a female? You know itll make your **** harder than a ball breaking b1tch.

Megan Goode is one of the sexxiest women I have EVER seen in my life lol. I always said that the two sexxiest women (to me at least) was Megan Goode and Hoopz (Nicole Alexander).

To me a chick is a 7+ if she has all of the following:

- Pretty face
- Nice titties
- Big/nice a.ss
- Thick/nice legs
- Somewhat flat stomach
- She's overall "thick or nice in the right places" but NOT fat and of course not skinny/boney

That's a 7+ to me :yes:

 

[Suspens]

I don't see any James Hetfield in him. To me, he looks a little like Brett Favre, but goofier. But I'm not a chick, so I'm not going to find him attractive.

Well then maybe you are just jealous.

 

[zekko]

Well then maybe you are just jealous.

I'm jealous because I don't find a guy attractive? I did admit that I'm not a girl, so maybe I can't see whatever they do. If I thought he was a good looking guy, I would say so. I don't see it. I didn't say he was an ugly fvcker, I said I thought he looked average.

Anyone else? Any of you guys think Corey Wayne looks "hot"?

 

[Suspens]

I did admit that I'm not a girl, so maybe I can't see whatever they do.


Anyone else? Any of you guys think Corey Wayne looks "hot"?

I didn't say he makes my gina tingle either. You don't need to be a girl to see that, you just need to have a sense of style. He is above average.

That's subjective anyhow.

 

[Ronny92]

I am currently in a situation where the girl seems very receptive. Almost always accepts date invites, she's very receptive in person (usually starts off with acting hard to get, but caves in and initiates kino herself, kisses, etc...)... but I feel like she almost never initates texting. I don't want to seem needy/clingy. I haven't spoken to her in 3 days because I feel like she's waiting for me to make the move, but others say to just disregard her. any advice?

 

[Pogba]

I always think if you want something go get it ...but hold your dignity in tact.
Express your interest ( for relationship or sex ) then let her bring herself. I never force or persist after I lay down my interest. I may have lost a fee women that way but who cares , I know when both parties are focused on one goal ; be it just casual sex or a real relationship. ..everything just flows like water.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Bold...

I don't see any James Hetfield in him. To me, he looks a little like Brett Favre, but goofier. But I'm not a chick, so I'm not going to find him attractive.

Doesn't matter what he or anyone else looks like. He's not the best looking guy, but he gets women from his attitude. All this 'looks matter' bs is just an excuse guys use from having a sh!tty defeatist attitude.

Well, the reason I started this thread was because I was trying to get some clarification on what he meant.

I've read most of his book now and listened to a good number of vids. I can't really sum up a book here, and nor do I deem it appropriate. You'll have to study it yourself.

But it strikes me that if you have to read something 10-15 times before you understand what he's saying, then either the subject is incredibly complicated, or he's doing a sh!t poor job of saying it.

According to Wayne, we retain approximately 7-10% of what we read (clearly the case with some people on this forum!) - Dale actually reckoned less than 30% also - http://repository.usp.ac.fj/5520/1/EDG14_Dales_Cone_of_Experience_[Compatibility_Mode].pdf

See page four.

Wayne's book is like 200-300-odd pages long - therefore 10-15 times should just about do it. And like I said, don't judge a book until you've understood it, cover to cover. And while you're at it, try not being so judgey about something you are not quite up to speed on. No offense like, just sayin.

If his video is trying to say approach chicks and be outcome dependent, why doesn't he say that? Instead of calling the video "Men who chase women are feminine and submissive"? He never once talks about approaching chicks, he talks about focusing on his friends and the chicks will approach you.

Read the book. I've never been out 'approaching' - I think it is weak and needy. I talk to women when I'm out DOING MY THING anyway. And may be that's why I like Wayne. His is an ideology, not a set of techniques.

And by the way, if all he's trying to say is be outcome dependent, there is nothing new or exciting in that. Everybody under the sun in the community says that.

A lot of people/'gurus' peddle a lot of the same messages. Wayne is not unique in that. That's because some people. like him, understand human nature a bit better than others.

What I like is the no-nonsense approach. He doesn't refer to 'game' a lot, rather just men being men, women being women and putting the purpose first, ahead of EVERYthing else. If a woman likes me, great, if not, not my problem. I've got sh!t to do anyway.

'Read the damn book'!