Men Don’t Want a Relationship with Women over 30.

[Solomon]

I disagree. The typical unmarried guy in his 30s/40s is a vagina beggar who will gladly accept an extended relationship with a similarly aged woman.

Roosh wrote about this in 2014....

"a woman will not be able to get a man as hot or alpha or rich at 35 than 25, but I’m afraid to tell you that this doesn’t give us as much deliverance as you may think.

Levels of thirst in America are higher than any other country I’ve been in. Men are so desperate for women that they will date way below their value in order to achieve a basic relationship. This means that they will not only accept—but fight over—a spinster woman at 35 who finally has decided to stop getting pumped and dumped."

The Wall Is Softer Than We Think

If a woman over 30 is single, it is due to the fact she is overly selective. She has plenty of options, especially in the era of swipe apps.

I've said it for years but "The Wall" is Redpill cope, a 41 year old single mother just snagged a millionaire
Men have to realize that simps are the majority and men who are RP are the minority I mean super minority
Add to the fact that the average man is struggling more than ever just to get women's attention and we are at a point where now the Pareto rule is in full effect

Also, the 25-year-old today compared to the 25-year-old from 25 years ago have completely different mating strategies
women now date for sex (short term) whereas 25 years ago women were looking for marriage

Not saying all women are like that as 25-year-old women still getting married but the stats show women are now getting married at a later age compared to 25 years ago

my thoughts? Iits survival of the fittest, be the best version of yourself if not, and continue to cope while the pretty girls are hanging out with the winners!

 

[pipeman84]

I've said it for years but "The Wall" is Redpill cope, a 41 year old single mother just snagged a millionaire
Men have to realize that simps are the majority and men who are RP are the minority I mean super minority

It’s our last marriage, OK? We belong together. That is it,” Williams, who was previously married to Kordell Stewart and engaged to Dennis McKinely, told the publication. “It’s a blessing to be able to find your person. It doesn’t happen often.”


Williams and McKinley share daughter Pilar Jhena (“PJ”), 3, while Guobadia has five kids — Quentin, Nicole, Christian, Benjamin and Ximena — from previous marriages.

This is a case of junk attracts junk. Let's not paint it as if it's a case of a high quality guy who has fallen head over heels in love and is being taken advantage of by a devious, scheming woman.

 

[MatureDJ]

A large percentage of men are typically invisible to women, including some men that are decent but not overwhelming on paper.

It's OVER for InvisibleCels.

 

[member160292]

It’s a predicament, you will most likely need to provide a bit of your own financial resources to keep her around and hope she turns into a good LTR….

Or you can take it for what it is and have fun dating younger. Don’t expect a unicorn chick in her 20’s to be a housewife

 

[zekko]

I always wonder what happens if a guy marries a pretty girl in his twenties, and as they grow old together, suddenly she is 35 or older. Horrors! What does he do then? And what should women do, since they live most of their life outside of this ideal 18-24 year old zone? Should they just cease to exist? Reminds me of the old sci fi movie, Logan's Run, where people were exterminated when they turned 30.

 

[BadBoy89]

I've said it for years but "The Wall" is Redpill cope, a 41 year old single mother just snagged a millionaire
Men have to realize that simps are the majority and men who are RP are the minority I mean super minority

my thoughts? Iits survival of the fittest, be the best version of yourself if not, and continue to cope while the pretty girls are hanging out with the winners!

The 57 year millionaire has 5 kids. She has 1 kid. I’m sure their marriage isn’t based on lust, instinct and attraction. And I’m sure he has an iron clad prenup in place. ”The Wall” isn’t red pill cope. It’s about “the woman is non-vIrgin, getting older, uglier, and expects more.”

Its not about coping. Its not about not being the best version. It’s about “the man killing himself spending money and time and effort to attract a 36 year old non vIrgin woman so she may sleep with after 3 months of dating as a reward, when she slept with the Alpha at 18 years old after 5 minutes when she was fresh and fertile.”

Yes life is not fair. Yes there are double standards. Yes the genetically blessed men get the hot sexy ones.

I always wonder what happens if a guy marries a pretty girl in his twenties, and as they grow old together, suddenly she is 35 or older. Horrors! What does he do then?

Drops her and gets younger and sexier.

I’m not Brad Pitt. My ex was hot at 33. Like 8.5/10. When she turned 37, I couldn’t look at her face during sex. I had to turn her around a few times. Even my parents saw a picture of her and said “she used to be hot, she got so old!”

And what should women do, since they live most of their life outside of this ideal 18-24 year old zone? Should they just cease to exist? Reminds me of the old sci fi movie, Logan's Run, where people were exterminated when they turned 30.

Of course not. They can still be valuable members of society after 30, even 35.

Just in terms of romantic relationships, they should be expected to be treated pretty harshly.

 

[BMX]

They are fat children, after all.

 

[BeExcellent]

I always wonder what happens if a guy marries a pretty girl in his twenties, and as they grow old together, suddenly she is 35 or older. Horrors! What does he do then? And what should women do, since they live most of their life outside of this ideal 18-24 year old zone? Should they just cease to exist? Reminds me of the old sci fi movie, Logan's Run, where people were exterminated when they turned 30.

Seriously. Like women only have 6 years of value. Utter & complete cope. Egads. How do you manage with your live in gf of what, 14 years?


The ridiculousness is total face palm.

Some of you guys are really bitter. That is not helping prospects gang.

 

[SW15]

A large percentage of men are typically invisible to women, including some men that are decent but not overwhelming on paper.

It's OVER for InvisibleCels.

I have made the point previously that women are sending more and more men to the rejection pile as compared to past eras.

If you were a Boomer male in his 20s in the 1970s, you could probably have a decent sex/relationships life by being decent looking (not overweight with a decent face and average height or better) and having a decent job. The 1970s-1980s was the last time that a guy could get away with being somewhat ordinary and be able to have decent experiences. By the time the earliest Millennials reached the mating marketplace in the early 2000s, this wasn't reality anymore.

There are plenty of 65-75 year old Boomer males today who had a woman life that their 30-40 year old Millennial sons can't replicate. While a 65-75 year old Boomer male could have gotten a long term wife or gotten divorced/remarried as a fairly ordinary guy, a 30-40 year old Millennial who is rather ordinary today is either an incel or a guy who experiences long sexual droughts in between extended relationships. It's a much different reality for the Millennial male. I'm interested to see what happens with Gen Z males.

I always wonder what happens if a guy marries a pretty girl in his twenties, and as they grow old together, suddenly she is 35 or older. Horrors! What does he do then? And what should women do, since they live most of their life outside of this ideal 18-24 year old zone? Should they just cease to exist? Reminds me of the old sci fi movie, Logan's Run, where people were exterminated when they turned 30.

Like women only have 6 years of value. Utter & complete cope. How do you manage with your live in gf of what, 14 years?

The ridiculousness is total face palm.

Some of you guys are really bitter. That is not helping prospects gang.

There are plenty of men who started a relationship with a woman in her 20s and aged with her after she became 35+. If they got married (which they probably did), they kept true their marital vows to some extent. However, a lot of marriages are facades. One or both partners have an affair at some point and/or the marriage devolves into a marriage with little sex. This often happens when the woman is 35+. The typical married couple under 60 today has less sex in their marriage than the typical under 60 couple had in 1989.

A lot of longer term married couples do stay together after the passion is gone and after the woman is 35+. It's a life of togetherness based on a shared past and social/financial obligations (mortgage, raising children).

There are plenty of married couples who assess their mediocre to subpar marriages in their late 30s/early 40s and decide to exit their marriages that have lacked passion and excitement for many years.

 

[zekko]

I was watching an episode of the old TV series Batman a few weeks back. Batman and Joker were having a surfing contest lol.
Yvonne Craig, who played Batgirl, was on the beach in a swimsuit. She also played one of Captain Kirk's green women Marta on Star Trek a year later. I don't care what anyone says, that girl had a smoking figure. But she was 30/31 around that time, and I just kept thinking SoSuave would say she had hit the wall. Maybe she hit the wall later, but she certainly hadn't at that time.

 

[Solomon]

The 57 year millionaire has 5 kids. She has 1 kid. I’m sure their marriage isn’t based on lust, instinct and attraction. And I’m sure he has an iron clad prenup in place. ”The Wall” isn’t red pill cope. It’s about “the woman is non-vIrgin, getting older, uglier, and expects more.”

Its not about coping. Its not about not being the best version. It’s about “the man killing himself spending money and time and effort to attract a 36 year old non vIrgin woman so she may sleep with after 3 months of dating as a reward, when she slept with the Alpha at 18 years old after 5 minutes when she was fresh and fertile.”

Yes life is not fair. Yes there are double standards. Yes the genetically blessed men get the hot sexy ones.



Drops her and gets younger and sexier.

I’m not Brad Pitt. My ex was hot at 33. Like 8.5/10. When she turned 37, I couldn’t look at her face during sex. I had to turn her around a few times. Even my parents saw a picture of her and said “she used to be hot, she got so old!”



Of course not. They can still be valuable members of society after 30, even 35.

Just in terms of romantic relationships, they should be expected to be treated pretty harshly.

Just because a woman gets older and uglier doesn't mean she won't have options YES her options are gonna be less. However the ugly 37 year old still has far more options than your average 25 year old.

Here is a "redpill" for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1P3UUIk20

You can say their "outliers" but there is a reason shows like "Milf Manor" are blowing up. Simps and men with no options would rather settle for a cougar or "Granny" it's really bad.

 

[RangerMIke]

I don't think this is generally true. It's actually quite amazing how easy it is for women at any age to get men interested in them. It is harder for older women, and the truth is they often have to 'settle' for a man they are not really attracted too, but I know women that are fvcking messes that men fall all over themselves to get with.

Being in my 50s, I date women in over 40 frequently, if they take care of themselves and make an effort they can look good. Unfortunately, because they have so much baggage, their attitudes are often dreadful and not a whole lot of fun.

 

[tightgrp]

You can say their "outliers" but there is a reason shows like "Milf Manor" are blowing up. Simps and men with no options would rather settle for a cougar or "Granny" it's really bad.

Holy Effing Shiiite!!! Those youtub images, though. Those losers can have it. Sickening to look at. And forget women with their baggage, attitudes and games. No matter the age. The tang or the pretty object who's value is not much more than her tang is not worth falling in love with, putting on a pedestal or devaluing yourself for.

 

[MatureDJ]

I always wonder what happens if a guy marries a pretty girl in his twenties, and as they grow old together, suddenly she is 35 or older. Horrors! What does he do then? And what should women do, since they live most of their life outside of this ideal 18-24 year old zone? Should they just cease to exist? Reminds me of the old sci fi movie, Logan's Run, where people were exterminated when they turned 30.

 

[MatureDJ]

I was watching an episode of the old TV series Batman a few weeks back. Batman and Joker were having a surfing contest lol.
Yvonne Craig, who played Batgirl, was on the beach in a swimsuit. She also played one of Captain Kirk's green women Marta on Star Trek a year later. I don't care what anyone says, that girl had a smoking figure. But she was 30/31 around that time, and I just kept thinking SoSuave would say she had hit the wall. Maybe she hit the wall later, but she certainly hadn't at that time.

Would hit!

 

[BillyPilgrim]

You can say their "outliers" but there is a reason shows like "Milf Manor" are blowing up. Simps and men with no options would rather settle for a cougar or "Granny" it's really bad.

**** exercise, gentlemen. This is the real way to lose weight.

Seriously. Like women only have 6 years of value. Utter & complete cope. Egads. How do you manage with your live in gf of what, 14 years?


The ridiculousness is total face palm.

Some of you guys are really bitter. That is not helping prospects gang.

Many women - not all - but a high percentage of them have only 6 years of pleasant attitude in 21st century society.

What would help prospects is less bitterness from both parties.