Meet your new currency - Amero

[apusislaya]

http://investment-blog.net/us-ships-800-billion-ameros-to-china-prepares-to-de-monetize-us-dollar/
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/66074

U.S. Ships 800 Billion “AMEROS” to China; prepares to De-Monetize U.S.
Dollar
Published on Oct.
3, 2008, 7:12 PM Last Update: 19 hours ago by Badger
Tags: amero north american union

The US Secretary of the Treasury has informed the China Development Bank that the US has shipped $800 Billion of a new currency called the Amero, which is to be based upon the merging of the economies of The United States, Mexico and Canada into what is termed as The North American Union.


The current American debt obligation to China, currently based on the US Dollar, is now estimated to be the staggering sum of $2.5 Trillion, and which this new Amero will be exchanged for $400 Billion of this debt as the current American currency is set to be devalued by 50 percent before the end of the year.


Virtually unknown to the American people is that their current leader of the US Department of Treasury, Henry M. Paulson, Jr., has been tasked by President Bush to lead the efforts to join the economies of the US, Canada and Mexico and is also the head of the North American Development Bank, the bi-national financial institution established by the United States and Mexico to further the merging of their economies, and the leader of the Border Environment Cooperation Commission (BECC), the organization created by the governments of the United States and Mexico to further the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).


This is important to note as the final provisions of the NAFTA Agreement were implemented on January 1, 2008, leaving only the final merging of the economies of the US, Mexico and Canada into a North American Union to be accomplished, of which we can read:

“President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration’s true open borders policy.


Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.


President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.
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It is also interesting to note that American economists have been warning about the replacing of the US Dollar with the Amero, due to pressure from China, for nearly two years, and as we can read in this December, 2006 report titled Analysts: Dollar collapse would result in ‘amero’, and which says:

Who's a patriot?

A) A guy that hails Bush, says kill Iraqis, kill illegals, and god bless America!
B) A guy that says Bush and whole U.S. system is criminal and controlled by the illuminati.

Even better question now, let's say you're one of those guys, what would've happened if your parents conceived you in India?



Let me tell you something, William Cooper talked on June 28th 2001 about how government is about to kill its own citizens in a false flag terrorist attack. Maybe you should listen up? http://video.aol.com/video-detail/william-bill-cooper-predicted-911-june-2001/3008366214

2 months after 9/11 he was gunned down by pigs. A lot of people were killed after the events. Some because they looked like "terrorists", some because they spoke bad about government. Bill is one of those guys. Here is his picture. http://oneheartbooks.com/images/resources/william_cooper.jpg

Those freaking towers went down at free fall speed. Physics has only one explanation for it. Controlled demolition.



You see, we've been talking about this for a long long time.

A) Destruction of U.S. economy.
B) New currency called the amerro.
C) Creation of North American Union.
D) Earth depopulation.
E) Martial law in America.



Too late. Label it all a conspiracy theory. Even as your liberties and wealth is being taken away from you. Retards. Brainwashed retards. That's what people are.

Hopefully, 104 million Americans are awake. To a degree.



Here is the deal, U.S. economy will crash pretty soon. Dollar, thanks to bailout, will crumble. New currency will be implemented. The Amerro. This currency will be cashless. Like credit cards. If you talk bad about government (like me), you don't get to use your money. Population will be micro chipped.

Before economic collapse, there will be another false flag terrorist attack. We are thinking it will be pandemic, like bird flue or something similar. Idea it to kill off Americans. Your bodies will be collected, and piled in FEMA coffits, 3 per coffin, waiting to be burned. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fema+coffins&search_type=

Agenda 21, google the damn thing, is to bring the depopulation of earth. They want only half a billion of us alive. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=agenda+21&search_type=&aq=f

One world government. Total control of you. Think I'm crazy? I'm glad that I come off crazy in this crazy crazy world!



You have no clue about the scale of the conspiracy! Even those that now are awake to 9/11 truth, even they don't know when things went wrong.



Legend of Atlantis part 1 - Dawn of the Gods
Legend Of Atlantis part 2 - Secret Brotherhood
Legend of Atlantis part 3 - Secret Prophecies
Legend of Atlantis part 4 - Return of the Lightmasters




You, the readers, will come in two flavors.

1) You're nuts, you're crazy. I hate you and I'm going to ridicule you.
2) OMG! This makes sense! Maybe I should listen up!




You see, our purpose on this earth is to develop. We are in a 3rd dimension. Devils are trying to kill us and take us down to 2nd. Our mission is to mature and advance into 4th dimension. Your actions, everything you do, affects your destiny in this life, and all your next lives.

Even a stupid reply has karmic energy, that comes back at you, stronger.

We are trapped on this earth like a bunch of fat rats. Evil is preventing our ascension and advancement. You can see population getting dumber and fatter by the day. Point in case, pick a reply to my message to you, see how they defend their little box they call their world, their precious reality, anything that might expand it is ridiculous! See how misinformed and mislead they are!


Our only hope, is a world wide spiritual awakening, the new Renaissance.




P.S. You have a one party system. http://wearechangeseattle.org/2007/09/25/154/ It's Barack McSame. One is gay murderer NLP using ****, and another one has anger issues. Choose neither one. Go for 3rd party, like Chuck Baldwin.

Ron Paul supports Chuck Baldwin.

 

[speakeasy]

What a load of crap, this Amero nonsense has been debunked time and time again and for the most part is relagated to hysteria websites trying to sell you gold or nutcases like Alex Jones.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

And if this were a credible story, it would be blasted on the first page of every major newspaper on the planet. According to your links, the "source" of this memo is from the Kremlin(yeah I really trust them so much), and there are no specifics such as names of who came forth with this info or anything substantiating it.

Now one can make a credible argument that the U.S. currency is in trouble even without these questionable articles, but you'd be a fool to take articles of this sort seriously. That is articles with no substantiated information, ideally from multiple sources.

 

[SuavePlaya]

Didn't you say Martial law oct 1st? Think about this before you post this kind of stuff. If the illuminati knows that someone like you know their plan do you think they would change it lol. For your information this is the same guy that argued with me that pot makes you smarter.

 

[speakeasy]

For your information this is the same guy that argued with me that pot makes you smarter.

Nuff said.

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

And if this were a credible story, it would be blasted on the first page of every major newspaper on the planet. According to your links, the "source" of this memo is from the Kremlin(yeah I really trust them so much), and there are no specifics such as names of who came forth with this info or anything substantiating it.

I am interjecting to strike down this heretical point of view. My interjection isn't about *this* post, but about your belief that so-major news networks would actually make known anything of value or credit to the American people.

Who owns the news networks?

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php

Who owns CNN? or MSNBC? ABC?
by systemfailure Wednesday, Apr. 09, 2003 at 1:43 AM

So ya think we have a "free press" eh? Check out who owns who, and who owns what you think.......
GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election campaign)

Television Holdings:
* NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of US households.
* NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise.
* CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by NBC and Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%).
The "MS" in MSNBC
means microsoft
The same Microsoft that donated 2.4 million to get GW bush elected.

Other Holdings:
* GE Consumer Electronics.
* GE Power Systems: produces turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants.
* GE Plastics: produces military hardware and nuclear power equipment.
* GE Transportation Systems: runs diesel and electric trains.
==================================================

WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC.
Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL)
whos #1 on the Board of Directors? None other than:
Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)

Television Holdings:
* CBS: includes 14 stations and over 200 affiliates in the US.
* CBS Network News: 60 minutes, 48 hours, CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, CBS Morning News, Up to the Minute.
* Country Music Television, The Nashville Network, 2 regional sports networks.
* Group W Satellite Communications.
Other Holdings:
* Westinghouse Electric Company: provides services to the nuclear power industry.
* Westinghouse Government Environmental Services Company: disposes of nuclear and hazardous wastes. Also operates 4 government-owned nuclear power plants in the US.
* Energy Systems: provides nuclear power plant design and maintenance.
================================================================
VIACOM INTERNATIONAL INC.
Television Holdings:
* Paramount Television, Spelling Television, MTV, VH-1, Showtime, The Movie Channel, UPN (joint owner), Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, Sundance Channel (joint owner), Flix.
* 20 major market US stations.
Media Holdings:
* Paramount Pictures, Paramount Home Video, Blockbuster Video, Famous Players Theatres, Paramount Parks.
* Simon & Schuster Publishing.
=============================================
DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640 thousand to GW's 2000 campaign)
Television Holdings:
* ABC: includes 10 stations, 24% of US households.
* ABC Network News: Prime Time Live, Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America.
* ESPN, Lifetime Television (50%), as well as minority holdings in A&E, History Channel and E!
* Disney Channel/Disney Television, Touchtone Television.
Media Holdings:
* Miramax, Touchtone Pictures.
* Magazines: Jane, Los Angeles Magazine, W, Discover.
* 3 music labels, 11 major local newspapers.
* Hyperion book publishers.
* Infoseek Internet search engine (43%).
Other Holdings:
* Sid R. Bass (major shares) crude oil and gas.
* All Disney Theme Parks, Walt Disney Cruise Lines.
======================================================

TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million to GW's 2000 campaign)
America Online (AOL) acquired Time Warner–the largest merger in corporate history.
Television Holdings:
* CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%).
* Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers.
Media Holdings:
* HBO Independent Productions, Warner Home Video, New Line Cinema, Castle Rock, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera.
* Music: Atlantic, Elektra, Rhino, Sire, Warner Bros. Records, EMI, WEA, Sub Pop (distribution) = the world’s largest music company.
* 33 magazines including Time, Sports Illustrated, People, In Style, Fortune, Book of the Month Club, Entertainment Weekly, Life, DC Comics (50%), and MAD Magazine.
Other Holdings:
* Sports: The Atlanta Braves, The Atlanta Hawks, World Championship Wrestling.
=======================================================
NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch) (donations see bottom note)
Television Holdings:
* Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US households.
* Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%).
* The Golf Channel (33%).
MEDIA HOLDINGS:
* Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Searchlight.
* 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York Post, the London Times and The Australian.
* 25 magazines including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard.
* HarperCollins books.
OTHER HOLDINGS:
* Sports: LA Dodgers, LA Kings, LA Lakers, National Rugby League.
* Ansett Australia airlines, Ansett New Zealand airlines.
* Rupert Murdoch: Board of Directors, Philip Morris (USA).

Now that we own that MOST of what we receive in regard to information OUTSIDE of the internet is controlled by a very few, select, wealthy, powerful individuals, is it safe to say that we probably don't get all that we need with respect to disclose and information?

Of course we don't.

Case in point.

I work in Financial Services, as any long-term member here at SS can attest (been around since 2002, posted heavily from 02-04). I have had my nose to the grindstone with regards to the bailout and economy for the sake of clients and family members.

The first bailout proposition was a 3 page document authorizing the secretary of the treasury to use whatever funds was necessary to help the economy. It was struck down as too obviously insane to be allowed and would result in god knows what outcome (riots, petitions, either party wanting credit).

The second bailout proposition was 100 pages+, most of which actually include the pork barrel initiatives you are hearing about now on the news and net.

The third bailout proposition, which has since been passed, numbered over 400 pages, and was read by myself and a colleague BEFORE it was even voted on or passed. We amusingly joked about the stuff many of you are hearing about on the net and news now.

Before you bother to respond and even attempt to flame me, if you haven't read ANY of the bills, do yourself a favor and DON'T respond. While I respect you as a human being and life on earth, you are ignorant to the laws being passed under your noses and are entirely ignorant to the underlying truths of current matters.

As such, here's one of the little nuggets embedded in a document that authorizes $700,000,000,000 of our money, our income, our day to day earnings and consumption, to be used as liquidity and profit for the US of A:

The bailout bill also gives the Internal Revenue Service new authority to conduct undercover operations. It would immunize the IRS from a passel of federal laws, including permitting IRS agents to run businesses for an extended sting operation, to open their own personal bank accounts with U.S. tax dollars, and so on.

Starting at the second bailout amendment, NO NEWS NETWORK CARRIED THE PORK BARREL INITIATIVES THAT WERE TO BECOME LAW UNTIL AFTER IT WAS PASSED.

Why not? WHY FREAKING NOT?

Because Wall Street and Big Business WANTED the bill passed. Profiteers, or traders, obviously new that the bill wasn't anything good, as indicated the swing DOWNWARD in the Dow Jones Industrial average to 157 points, when it was UP over 300 points BEFORE it was passed.

I'll repeat that. The second bill that failed had many of the same pork barrel intiatives that the THIRD one did, YET, no news network talked about except Michael Savage and other fringe radio shows. I didn't even here about many of the MAIN networks pumped into your home telling you about it. Did you?

THEN, when all is said and passed, EVERY network brings it up, AS if it had just magically appeared WHEN it was passed. Why do you think the bailout plan was considered a bad plan that flooded representatives vms and email boxes? Not only b/c it authorized 700 billion dollars to be thrown from the fed into numerous corporations pockets, but because it was laden with random laws and regulations by both parties.

So you honestly think a "major news network" is going to report anything remmotely close to the truth, when they didn't enlighten the American people to a FACT that existed for over a week??????

Please, for the sake of ALL citizens, get educated. Don't make lame comments without really researching everything. Don't post random links that take 2 seconds to GOOGLE and believe that "proves" your point. It doesn't.

Continue on with the post and your merry-making with women.



A-Unit

 

[speakeasy]

I am interjecting to strike down this heretical point of view. My interjection isn't about *this* post, but about your belief that so-major news networks would actually make known anything of value or credit to the American people.

Who owns the news networks?

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php

Excuse me, if you read my post I said why wouldn't this be in any newspaper ANYWHERE on the PLANET. Even if you are so conspiratorial as to believe that the American media is going to cover this up, there's no reason to think that the BBC, Al Jazeera, La Monde, Der Speigal or any other media in the world are going to cover it up on America's behalf.

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

You're kidding, right?

As I pointed out, almost all of our cable and news networks and media companies are owned by a select few. (Think Tomorrow Never Dies and Elliot Carver).

And you don't think what few major news networks exist aren't owned by a wealthy person here or there that doesn't hob nob, invest, bump elbows, or seek favor of the US, the government, or the wealth elite?

You do realize that the passage of the bill, the BAILOUT bill, allows the Secretary of the Treasury to bailout FOREIGN DEBT?

You are also aware that alot of international pressure was reigned down upon the US government because alot of our toxic debt was held by foreign investors and governments?

This isn't the world of the 1700's where we don't like another country. Wealthy elite and political leaders communicate all the time. They buy shares or invest in one another's companies and countries. They have a vested interest to be involved with one another and control information flow.

Conspiratorial is cute buzzword that helps split all thought into "accepted" mainstream thought and generally "scary" thought. So label me or my writing anyway you want. That does not alter the truth of reality. The mind likes to fix things in cute boxes so that it's not so scary.

 

[Rovalier]

So A-Unit, you frequent any other forums or sites when it comes to finances all the stuff you are talking about? I've been polishing up on Austrian Economics as of late to help reframe myself a bit. I've wondering if there any ways to adapt and even capitalize on the current climate.

 

[WaRpEd]

Screw mexico, I'm going further south.

Ah...we're all screwed regardless.

 

[Rovalier]

I'm moving to Mexico... who's with me? So what, the New World Order comes to pass... then what? Apparently not EVERYONE is going to die during agenda 21... so what happens after the world is one? What is the goal of controlling everyone? World Domination? For what purpose?

I think something a lot bigger is in the works.

Your in Canada, why bother moving to Mexico? You should be able to weather some of the ****storm from the American financial crisis. In fact, I think Canada might be slightly safer since there is so much remote lands that are not heavily populated, with an abundance of resource. Of course it might get cold further north, but **** between that and damage of an all out economic/currency collapse, it's a pretty easy choice.

Edit: Found this interesting - maybe overthinking this - just percautionary?

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/2/11758/5804
http://www.prisonplanet.com/northcom-denies-troops-to-be-used-for-crowd-control.html

 

[A-Unit]

So A-Unit, you frequent any other forums or sites when it comes to finances all the stuff you are talking about? I've been polishing up on Austrian Economics as of late to help reframe myself a bit. I've wondering if there any ways to adapt and even capitalize on the current climate.

To be honest, its a mish mash of sites.

During the bailout crisis, I was listening to Jim Cramer and the "talking" heads throughout the day, then cross-checking it via the ACTUAL documents, law, and constitutional law.

Having put a decade plus a degree into financial services, finance, and having handfulls of accounting friends and finance contacts, I can piece together larger puzzles. I also come to realize how ignorant Americans are and how ignorant financial organizations are.

Conspiracy websites, good or bad, true or untrue, can slant things, just as the major news networks can. If you read infowars or a generic site like yahoo, check the source. Read the website. Find the quotes. Double check it.

There's really no preparation for *this*, whatever this.

The day our Dow jones industrial average dropped 777 points, the worlds markets went down 6-16%, so no where is 'safe.' That's the point of our globalized economy and the theory of a "new world order." A friend in Sao Paulo, Brazil was telling me of how the markets were there, witnessing our meltdowns, and asking me what it was like. His market was one of the markets dropping 16% or more on that day alone.

If the GOV wanted to stimulate the economy, letting the market forces chop up the companies and giving the PEOPLE the billions would have done that.

Are you aware that the first proposal of the bailout was in fact UNCONSTITUTIONAL? What the hell is the point in proposing such a thing to begin with? It's a direct insult to the American people and should be sufficient proof to demonstrate that the bailouts that proceeded it and the final approved document are nearly unconstitutional.

The Secretary of Treasury can bail out ANY debt instrument he chooses to and any company, anywhere. Isn't segregated to the US. What a wonderfully socialist system we have! I'm serious and I'm not just some nutjob with a degree.

The GOV bought Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, then proceeded to loan 85 billion to AIG and take an equity position in their company. Now, it will be buying loans, en masse, on the basis of providing "liquidity" to the markets.

First and foremost, companies like Wells Fargo were never involved in this mess, so they have the ability to lend and lend alot. They got a huge discount on Wachovia Bank and thanks to new tax breaks, will shield alot of their profit units income by taking losses on the WB purchase.

Second, it's a well known FACT that alot of private money, such as that in hands of investors and wealthy elite, is ready to jump into the marketplace and buy up depressed assets. Fire sales will occur and performing mortgages will be bought.

Third, the bailout will not benefit those in trouble. That's a ruse. Cash strapped firms which need loans to continue operating MAY get help, since they can get a loan, such as the furniture store OR the auto industry. HOWEVER, banks are still loaning. The problem is, credit risk and default risk has risen so rapidly, given the wave of expected defaults, that many of these businesses might not even be sound enough to be worth GIVING a loan to.

Even if liquidity is provided, who's going to buy cars or furniture now? Seriously. No one's buying homes. Nobody is doing jack and ****. So the idea of giving businesses loans is foolish, because good businesses can get money. I know, I have friends working at places that loan. Their problems are consumers not acting on any debt consolidation or payment structures. It's just fear, not economics.

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My suggestion:

Stay liquid. If you "invest", be willing to lose. Since Defined Contribution plans, otherwise understood to be 401ks, 403bs, 457s and other such plans, people have 'expected' returns in the stock markets to be nearly as safe as those found in cds, bank, the mattress, or pensions. False.

The stock market, over the long-term, returns a positive yield. HOWEVER, how long must this term be? Truly, it all depends. It's all dependent on when you were born, when you begin to save, how long you begin to save for, when you plan to retire, for how long you plan to w/d money, how much money you plan to w/d, what rate of return you get while retired, etc.

Truly, boys n girls, you could be invested in the market from Year X and retire in Year Y, and gain no money or lose money, because it all depends. The GURUS idea that you can just "throw' money into the market and an AVERAGE rate of return is foolish, stupid, ignorant, and dangerous, and is the only basis for "buying, holding, and investing in mutual funds or stocks."

Check: http://www.brookings.edu/testimony/1999/0511saving_burtless.aspx

Alot of Americans do not begin saving until OTHER bills are out of the way. Many 20 somethings won't start until their 30's. If they start young or in the 30's, then they end up withdrawing at some point in their 30's or 40's for growth bills, like college savings, kids, hardtimes, additions, or divorce. Then they end up saving voraciously in their 50's and working til about their early 60's. Yet, if they encounter a downturn like this, no amount of awesome profit will help, because they will be so "hooked" on what they saved, that any downturn will drive them frantically nuts.

Stay lean, stay mean. Spread your risk around. Keep more cash than anything. Convert said cash to decent hard assets, silver, gold, etc. Be resourceful yourself. I could say large caps, or small caps, or mid-caps, but they change depending on the "flavor of the month." Right now it might be small and mid caps, since they are dependent on the larger economy or credit to keep going. Medical will always roll, no matter what. But as we become a more unified world economy, any downturn, anywhere, won't be an international one, it will be practically considered domestic.

 

[speakeasy]

You're kidding, right?

As I pointed out, almost all of our cable and news networks and media companies are owned by a select few. (Think Tomorrow Never Dies and Elliot Carver).

And you don't think what few major news networks exist aren't owned by a wealthy person here or there that doesn't hob nob, invest, bump elbows, or seek favor of the US, the government, or the wealth elite?

You do realize that the passage of the bill, the BAILOUT bill, allows the Secretary of the Treasury to bailout FOREIGN DEBT?

You are also aware that alot of international pressure was reigned down upon the US government because alot of our toxic debt was held by foreign investors and governments?

This isn't the world of the 1700's where we don't like another country. Wealthy elite and political leaders communicate all the time. They buy shares or invest in one another's companies and countries. They have a vested interest to be involved with one another and control information flow.

Conspiratorial is cute buzzword that helps split all thought into "accepted" mainstream thought and generally "scary" thought. So label me or my writing anyway you want. That does not alter the truth of reality. The mind likes to fix things in cute boxes so that it's not so scary.

So I'm to believe Al Jazeera and FoxNews are all in cahoots together right? All because it fits your conspiratorial world view?

Why don't we just deal with the issue at hand. The burdon of proof isn't on ME to prove that the Amero doesn't exist. The burdon is on the OP to prove that it DOES exist. That's how things work. Posting a link that claims someone in the Kremlin says the U.S. has created an Amero isn't proof of squat. And if there were any clear evidence of such a currency, more people would know about it by now than Alex Jones and the charlatans hawking gold on hysteria websites.

 

[Aragon034]

This thread is legendary

All we need now are the Nephilim and Nibiru to land and we've got the whole cavalcade.

Oh wait, maybe it's those crystal ruins on the moon and mars where the conspiracy lies.

Those reptilians are planning it, I can tell.

And actually, i've been giving SERIOUS thought to buying some of those Amero's you can buy online.

Well, i'm just gonna have to have as much fun as i can before 2012 and nature decides to kick our asses in a seriously twisted and evil way.

This is all counting on a meteor not blasting us off this planet in the mean time, whether it be natural or alien steered.

The OP was EPIC. Seriously, i get the feeling he's been listening to that Art Bell phone call that is so creepy about the same stuff he's talking about.

For those who want to seriously know what i think?

Is there anything, and i mean anything other than outright vigilantism (which against such a powerful and conspiratorial machine would surely fail) i can do about the situation? Not a damn thing. Fight Club was wrong. The people are NOT going to rise up and overthrow the empire. The people are as you say "brainwashed" and laugh at you.

My honest thoughts are that deep in your minds, deeper than your most subconscious thoughts, i guess you could call it your soul, you feel something bigger and grander at work. Some call it karma, some call it government conspiracies, and i call it God.

I DO think that bad things are coming, VERY bad things. But is there absolutely anything we can do about it? Are we going to band together, go hide in the mountains and create a guerilla force to fight the machine? highly doubtful. Are we going to pressure our governments into revealing their evil plans for depopulation? I don't think so.

What i do see thousands of people doing is worrying about it, starting websites, distributing flyers, standing on a soapbox and screaming it to the people.

I also see people spreading fear about it, making other people worry about it. Damn you, Seriously, may you all die of explosive diarrhea for giving people such harsh stress in what could possibly be the last few years of their happy lives.

And in the end? It's futile. All that's going to happen is the years that are left to us with relative peace are going to be incredibly stressful because of the situation, and when these very bad things do occur, for maybe a microsecond you'll feel like H.G. Wells on his Epitaph.

"Damn you all, I told you so."

 

[Deep Dish]

The cardinal rule of conspiracy theories: when a conspiracy proves too small, Super Size it. Keep adding layers of conspiracy atop conspiracies. Next thing you know, telephone poles and garbage collectors on your street are part of the conspiracy and modern technological life is reverse engineered from UFOs. Characterize skeptics as "blind sheep." (Fück you.) Shoehorn events from newspaper headlines as proof your prophecies will be fulfilled but then suffer convienent amnesia when nothing happens (such as my $500.00 challenge there would be no military martial law on October 1).

Click here for Penn & Teller.

 

[Truman181]

I love how people blindly dismiss anything scary as a kooky conspiracy theory.

All you have to do is look around. Things were NEVER this bad before. I mean sure, in the depression, there was 25% unemployment. But at least those people kept their liberty intact.

These are facts:

-Our Constitutional rights are being eroded

-The Government has become a major player in our so called "free market" economy. This is unbelievable.

-The media has become a source of disinformation. How very Orwellian.

Let me tell you a little story. During this past week when the first bailout plan was shot down, my state senator said that he had voted against it because the people of our state were telling him "NO, we don't want it".

Yet there was George Bush the next morning in a press conference on tv DEMANDING that congress pass the bill. The people had spoken, we didn't want it. The Government wouldn't listen to us.

The American People don't have a say in anything anymore.

Sure, you doubters will say that "The Bailout was good for us. The Government was giving the American people the medicine they didn't want to take".

Fukk that. We should have the right to decide what medicine (metaphorically speaking) we want to accept or if we don't want to take any at all.

Those in favor of the bailout may say it's necessary to keep our economic structure intact. Tell me this, why would we want to save something that is broken to begin with?

The people on Wall Street fukked up. They should have been fired. If I screw up at my job, the government won't step in to save me. Furthermore, Bush should be impeached NOW!

 

[speakeasy]

Truman,

Don't make the assumption that everyone who gets irritated by conspiracy theorists necessarily side with the prevailing government and Wall st. status quo. I am sickened by this current administration, by business as usual on Wall St. and I phoned my representative and Senators to voice my opposition to this bailout. I am disgusted by government spending and the fact that we're bailing out corporations who get all the benefit of capitalism when times are good yet the benefits of socialism when times get bad.

What I took the OP to task on was this Amero conspiracy theory and the non-existant evidence supporting such. I'm annoyed by conspiracy theorists because they make wild claims with flimsy evidence time and time again and get arrogant when people rebuff their nonsense. Carl Sagan devised a classic piece of common sense, "extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." Because I disagree with him or the Alex Jones worldview does not make me a Bush-loving, koolaid-drinking neocon.

 

[Truman181]

speakeasy -

I wasn't necessarily directing my comments at you.

I agree, conspiracy theories can go too far. Like the OP a lot of what he said made sense but then he started talking about Devils and multidimensional stuff. That makes me think he doesn't really believe his original point and that he was just piling on conspiracy theories to be outlandish.

Anywho, MY point is that it irks me when people say not to question things just because it's an uncomfortable line of thinking. People should always educate themselves and question the government. I know that's obvious to you but unfortunately not to most people.

I would never accuse you of being a Neocon as I've seen you praise Obama before. Now I would love to take Obama at face value as the anti-establishment/anti-bush candidate for the people. However, you have to wonder why the media loves him so much....hmmmm seems they want him elected. Is he a man of his word? Or is he a puppet of the corporate elite?

It's funny that both candidates are jumping on the economic bandwagon NOW that the sh1t is hitting the fan. Fact is, Ron Paul was talking about this over a year ago but the media wouldn't let him speak. He knew this was coming...

 

[(JJ)]

dude i saw a ufo like a week ago. no joke. im usually the first one to be like "that's a stupid conspiracy theory" but i actually SAW A UFO. it sounds dumb, cuz i know it could be any number of things. but it sure was weird. who knows a lot about ufos? i want a pm cuz im actually interested now. NOT in conspiracy theories. just information.

 

[A-Unit]

Re: This

I love how people blindly dismiss anything scary as a kooky conspiracy theory.

All you have to do is look around. Things were NEVER this bad before. I mean sure, in the depression, there was 25% unemployment. But at least those people kept their liberty intact.

These are facts:

-Our Constitutional rights are being eroded

-The Government has become a major player in our so called "free market" economy. This is unbelievable.

-The media has become a source of disinformation. How very Orwellian.

Let me tell you a little story. During this past week when the first bailout plan was shot down, my state senator said that he had voted against it because the people of our state were telling him "NO, we don't want it".

Yet there was George Bush the next morning in a press conference on tv DEMANDING that congress pass the bill. The people had spoken, we didn't want it. The Government wouldn't listen to us.

The American People don't have a say in anything anymore.

Sure, you doubters will say that "The Bailout was good for us. The Government was giving the American people the medicine they didn't want to take".

Fukk that. We should have the right to decide what medicine (metaphorically speaking) we want to accept or if we don't want to take any at all.

Those in favor of the bailout may say it's necessary to keep our economic structure intact. Tell me this, why would we want to save something that is broken to begin with?

The people on Wall Street fukked up. They should have been fired. If I screw up at my job, the government won't step in to save me. Furthermore, Bush should be impeached NOW!

Truman scratched the surface, and very cogently I may add.

Whether you label my words as conspiratorial or not, does not matter to me. What I was speaking on was fact.

Fact: The IRS gained heavy new powers that enable clandestine operation at catching tax evaders, that requires no oversight by the FBI.

Fact: The government CAN and WILL bail out foreign governments and enterprises, as they had held sinking bonds and dollars and received a lot of pressure to pass this latest bill. (Check how badly the market dropped monday around the world last week).

Fact: A war on terror is never won, because in the grand scope of world politicals, anyone who threatens your ideas is a "threat" and inflicts terror.

Fact: It was Wall Street phds, mbas, and salesmen that screwed up as well as Government leaders and regulators, of both parties, and now they want to pass the bill onto us, while they retain cushy pensions, healthcare benies, and receive fat golden parachutes. The % drop in value that is experienced by those who messed up and by those who are expected to pay is a huge difference.

Lastly, anyone on the fence about 9-11 should watch this youtube video and read up on William "Bill" Cooper, who was oddly killed November 5, 2001, by Federal Law Enforcement officials outside of his home. Bill was a private recluse who was also a double amputee. It was a known fact he carried and housed weapons. He was a very private, always suspicious that the government was "onto him." He served in the Air Force and Navy for nearly 2 decades.

He wrote "Behold a Pale Horse", which is most definately a work of conspiracy literature, but written so accurately, it's almost hard to throw aside or believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4EyBstOsA

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/william-bill-cooper-predicted-911-june-2001/3008366214

For those who don't finish the video, I'll summarize what Bill says on his live program, aired in June of 2001. He hints that Osama Bin Laden will be blamed for a "Reichstag" event in the coming weeks or months, and that following such an event, the final blow will be to take away or diminish the supply of weapons in our hands.

He also mentioned it would be a notable location, such as the Capital building, which is akin to the Reichstag in Germany. He cautions people to wake up. Though Bill is a passionate man, he believed in "restoration of the constitution, not a revolution," constantly conveying the message that "we, the patriots, would not be the ones to fire the first shot."

Given that this man hinted at, what evidence is there left to believe? Had anyone heeded these words, who knows what the outcome would have been. I'm willing to bet those who found this video prior to 911 and then saw it unfold are very changed people.

 

[apusislaya]

Here is the guy behind the info talks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge2J2lNusJs


e-mail him if you want to see picture of the coin.


About foreign banks. BRAZIL. If you want to escape civil war, go to BRAZIL as well. (guess where Bush crime family will hide during unrest? BRAZIL) This guy knows a lot about this stuff, ask him questions. Eddie NWO Censored .... a lot of the things he was saying in July had come true to the T. We are moving towards fascism. WHY? Men behind the curtain worship devil.

Again a reminder that you have a 1 party system, don't matter really if you choose Democrat or Republican. Read this stuff. http://wearechangeseattle.org/2007/09/25/154/
Also watch this clip on the same subject. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U