Me vs a cuban latinoloverboy

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Hi folks,

I might need some help on this one. I met this awesome hot norwegian girl on myspace und talked a lot with her on MSN. At first she was pretty scared, because someone had stalked her, so I used the momentum to comfort her and showed her that I am a nice guy who she can trust. It wasn't easy to gain her trust.

However when I succeeded, I found out that she is a nice person to chat with and seems intresting and clever. When we talked about realtionships, she told me,that she was single, but has an affair with a cuban guy, to whom she is really attracted. She want's to have a relationship with him, but he doesn't seem to be intrested. It is the classical thing, he just calls when he wants sex with her and is "holding her on the long line". She hopes, that he might get intrested in a relationship with her, but this affair goes on now since december with a 2,5 months pause.

She told me,that she wants to date someone, but when this cuban guy decides to go for a relationship with her, she will drop anybody else for him.

I asked her what is so special about him, and she told me that he is the alpha male, she geets a special feeling when she is around him and the sex is perfect.

I thought this is going to be really hard, so I quickly decided to push it a bit forward and drop the nice guy masquerade. after 2 days of chatting in MSN I asked her for a date. I thought of bowling, thinking that this might be an active date, where I can use a lot of kino/flirts. she agreed and after that I went for her number. she quickly gave me her number (and it is the correct one). Because I was curious to know if her number was the correct one, I called her at once, pretending that I wanted to hear her lovely voice. While talking, I concentrated on speaking slowly ( I have a real deep voice), immediatly she complimented me on my handsome voice.

now it seems hard to get her away from "mr. latino heat".

my fears:

1.) I dunno how to convince her,that I am better than him, so does anyone have any tips from moving her away from her preoccupied point of view,that he is mr.sexmachine-the alphamale-number one guy?

2.) If I manage to convince her,that I am better for her, and mr. latino heat decides to go for a relationship with her I am probably out, since she told me that anybody else is only no. 2

thanks for your help
 

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This is just my opinion but it seems like an awful lot of work for one girl. Are you currently dating other women as well? Dating multiple women will solve 95% of your female problems.

Quite honestly, I think that if you're dating multiple women you don't even need to worry about "game," you will automatically have it.
 

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I got a second girl in line, a very unopen and cold gothgirl :D

but she is not a half as interesting as this girl is
 

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Toreador said:
She told me,that she wants to date someone, but when this cuban guy decides to go for a relationship with her, she will drop anybody else for him.
The problem that you have is not so much that Jose has captured her heart and her vag-giny, it is that you would even consider dating a woman as her 'filler' .
Your low self-regard is also responsible for your delusional willingness to pursue her in hope, and inspite of her open disclosure about Latina boy .

WTF are you thinking ?
 

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so you suggest to just drop her?

this could be a chance and I like the idea of a competition here.
 

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Toreador said:
so you suggest to just drop her?

this could be a chance and I like the idea of a competition here.
YOu can't win this contest. YOu need to learn to pick your battles.

Even if you dated her and started to fukk her you would always know that she was probably wishing that HIS dyck was in her rather that yours.
Would you be OK with that ?

Take it from me, triangles are always a guarantee of pain and loss for the person who joins last.
 

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The Cuban guy got her hooked up good. He is essentially the bad boy that tingle's her down below and as long as he can do that, she will be his.

Sorry to burst your bubble but to me it sounds like you are still in a very "nice guy" phase which is probably not enough to pry this girl away from him and her longing for his c0ck.

I suggest that you date several girls at the same time and challenge yourself to be the most masculine guy that you can be both physically and mentally.
 

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Id back off as well. Unless you follow the advice below.

Ive got three plates right now - working on four. One fo them is like your lady. So I solved the problem and still got her.

I basically dated more women. She sensed at the time she was the only plate - so I upped the ante. Took about a week of NC and then she started calling. Slept with her two weeks later and she is still around.

If its worth it then get out there and spin a few more plates. She will sense it trust me.

FWIW the work was worth the result. Sex was great and company is great as well.

Good luck brother.

PS dont ever VS yourself against someone. Win. I dont even care about other dudes approaching the women im with with.
 

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Toreador said:
Hi folks,

When we talked about realtionships, she told me,that she was single, but has an affair with a cuban guy, to whom she is really attracted. She want's to have a relationship with him, but he doesn't seem to be intrested. It is the classical thing, he just calls when he wants sex with her and is "holding her on the long line". She hopes, that he might get intrested in a relationship with her, but this affair goes on now since december with a 2,5 months pause.

She told me,that she wants to date someone, but when this cuban guy decides to go for a relationship with her, she will drop anybody else for him.

I asked her what is so special about him, and she told me that he is the alpha male, she geets a special feeling when she is around him and the sex is perfect.
The fact that you know all of this shows that you are in the friendzone. If you were a contender, she would never reveal all of this for the fear of losing you. Charge this one to the game and move on. You're way to comfortable for her to consider as a contender.
 

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what a bytch..

she just told me, that it seems like it is going to work out with her loverboy.

you guys were right anyway, too much headache with her
 

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what a bytch..

she just told me, that it seems like it is going to work out with her loverboy.

you guys were right anyway, too much headache with her
"What a bytch "...? Huh !

Torero, she TOLD you that she was in love/ lust with a Latina guy.
She also told you, indirectly, that she likes trawling for additional male attention from chumps online while Latin Lover is elsewhere..
She also told you that she plays the victim card to suck these chumps in to her game.
She openly transmitted all those messages, but your inflated ego decided that you were going to impose a victory over the Latina lover in spite of what she was telling you .

She gained the attention that she wanted from you, and then the inevitable happened- she deliberately pressed Eject on your azz by telling you that Latina boy and she were getting together. You had served your purpose .

Right now she will be initiating that same AW game with another gullible (an inexperienced) guy who also, like you, refuses to read her rather obvious signals.

Live and learn.
 

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Personnally with girls like this, you may as well take a 'got nothing to loose' attitude.

The date, e.t.c was a waste of time, the whole interaction after her admission of wanting some other dude, was your moment to either draw the line or walk.

Personally, instead of trying to game the guy, you should have just laid it all on the line, invited her to your pad, for a bottle of wine, and skipped all the dating cra* - The point is, the chances of her putting out is slim to zero after such an admission, but you never know, she may want catering to the inner slu*, internet is a free zone for girls, they can do things in secrecy, i.e I would have simply said "I understand, tell you what, your next free evening, I suggest you head over to my pad, I promise not to tell him (the other stud), if you dont".

The dating rubbish was a waste of time, a pointless excercise into futility, you where in essence trying to outgame a guy she is already fuc*ing - poor move, but instead of competeting like two coc*'s in a back street betting fight - Simply by pass him and go for the juggler.

She may have taken an open relationship attitude, if it's good for him its good for her, she may have been wanting an excuse - the dating was too close for comfort, but a fling in the sack with no strings doesn't come between her and the guy she actually wants.
 

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well, luckily I did not went with her on a date. it was only just planned. so I saved time and money :up:
 

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Toreador said:
well, luckily I did not went with her on a date. it was only just planned. so I saved time and money :up:

Good call, I like to think of these things like earning money.

Next girl who does this though, forget the date speak, simply go for the kill.

Dam I know a guy who in a similier position, simply said to the girl, when she started to drone on about the guy she was fuc*ing "Your nose wiggles when you talk" - Just that line, she invited him round there and then. He never saw her again but he had a smile on his face.

I.e forget the dating cra*, toss in some full on game or mock her a little, skit over the other guy and observe her reactions.

The other guy should be a none - entity, unless she gives you an opportunity to do a boyfriend destroyer, just blank him like his importance is none existant, dont award him power by default. But if she says something negative, home in on it, extend it - but dont dwell on it, bring her out, to say more things negative -

If the girl has a BF and your in repoir, dont hang on the BF, ignore him - If the GF says something negative about the BF you agree with her "Yeh that would bug me too".

Value lower or higher.

Talking about the jock she loves to sit on and screw, awards him power, ignoring him raises your value, he is a none entity, would James bond for example give a toss about this guy - Cheesy example but true. If she presses the issue, call him such names like cute, "ohh he sounds sooo cute" - sh** like that, then move onto another subject.
 

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BTW, he wasn't Cuban, he is Puerto Rican... how do I know, because it's me she wants to go out with. And for the record... I'm not interested in an LTR with her.

Toreador, you can thank me later.


And for the record whenever someone says something like this to you:

She told me,that she wants to date someone, but when this cuban guy decides to go for a relationship with her, she will drop anybody else for him.
You have 2 options:

(1) Show her your back as you walk away.
(2) Open season on her as a FB.

But at no point would you ever even consider ANYTHING remotely serious with a woman like this.

This is a woman that you could never take seriously EVER because she is basically saying that you were at a lower value than him. That's why it couldn't go past a FB status and if all of a sudden your value became higher, you drop her. She isn't LTR material, right?

The problem here is you "wanted to convince her you were better".

NO.

You don't have to convince anyone of something you already know.

I mean, I will be banging this chick for you, but in your own world, you are the prize, and if she doesn't see that, it's her loss. At least you live and you learn and whenever a situation comes up like this again, you know how to approach it entirely.
 
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