Mature Man vs. Immature Idiot

[Deep Dish]

What are the biggest problems a woman can have with a guy, problems which do the greatest damage and leave a woman wanting to look elsewhere?

In my experiences, being too clingy/emotionally needy sends women running for the hills faster than anything else. They can smell that horse dung from a mile away and it's so fatalistic because it's a mindset character flaw rather than simply an action flaw, and mindsets can take years to overcome.

The reason I ask is there's a chick who I like and am pursuing, who is sorta seeing a guy who is apparently a textbook AFC making classic mistakes which I did ten years ago. I don't know the fullest extent of his blunders, but he calls her every day and is angry at her because she didn't call him one day! Yeah, kindergarten shyt. It's comical. She said she doesn't know where things are going or how long it will last; she doesn't even mention his name, referring to him only as her "new boy." The chick is 30 years old and was setup with the guy, I think, and so I think the only reason why she's going out with him was because he was around before me. I recently took her out for drinks and dinner, which ended up lasting over four hours, and I took a little stab at him by saying "I hope your boyfriend won't mind."

In fact, the chick keeps sexualizing me. She said my sister is cute, she said my Mustang can pick up chicks, she once innocently joked about some girl being my girlfriend, she doesn't like the fact I've given up on women and wants me to reconsider. She does everything a girl does when genuinely interested and I do believe I have a favorable chance. I'm just playing it cool.

I think the guy is doomed but I'm just curious what are other big problems.

 

[STR8UP]

What are the biggest problems a woman can have with a guy, problems which do the greatest damage and leave a woman wanting to look elsewhere?

Are you looking for a magic bullet to pull her away from Mr. AFC?

The magic bullet is maintaining your value as a sexual being and biding your time.

We have talked about this before.....how all relationships have a shelf life. She will drop AFC wussy boy eventually.

The 22 yr old I know who recently broke off her "engagement"? I knew that even after they supposedly broke up, she wasn't going to be over him, so I had to bide my time.

I just sat back and waited, now she wants a relationship with me. That's another story that I won't go into, but the point is that I knew that the best action in this case was INACTION, due to the fact that I had long ago established my sexual value, so I knew she would alway be a "plate", even if she might be "inactive" at times.

Got this big car show coming up this weekend, but hit me up later next week if you get time so we can compare notes....

 

[eyedogg]

Nice reply Str8up!

 

[RedPill]

In fact, the chick keeps sexualizing me. She said my sister is cute, she said my Mustang can pick up chicks, she once innocently joked about some girl being my girlfriend, she doesn't like the fact I've given up on women and wants me to reconsider. She does everything a girl does when genuinely interested and I do believe I have a favorable chance. I'm just playing it cool.

I think the guy is doomed but I'm just curious what are other big problems.

The 'giving up on women' thing is totally being viewed by her as a challenge.

All you need to do is pave the trail. The way you've described it, there are no obstacles left. This one's ready to pick. She's one evening of excitement and two glasses of wine away from the bedroom. Make it happen. Don't even bring up the chump anymore, and if she does tease her about it.

Do something fun and 'actionable' with her that requires physical contact (i.e. "the action date"), escalate, and let nature take care of the rest. Good luck.

 

[The_last_Gunslinger]

The best way to remove a potential boyfriend or outright boyfriend a woman is tired of is simple; Find out his name and mess it up every time she mentions him.

If his name is Tom refer to him as Chip.

If his name is Mark, call him Skip.

Any name that is somewhat comical and does not imply respect. It paints a less than favorable image in her mind when considering him. It also lets her know that your not interested in him, have no repect for him, and in fact increasing your value at the same time without being too overt.

This "technique" worked for me more than once with excellent results.

 

[Deep Dish]

Holy mother of f*ck, Batman! Speak of the devil, the girl dumped the guy. It's as if she had a four hour dinner with a real man, then went home and realized the immature idiot is nothing in comparison. They got into an argument and I'm 100% confident my dinner was the final nail in the coffin. She said he needs to find a girl who has more time for him.

She did say she just wants to be single right now and avoid any new drama, although I'm skeptical of its veracity. If I've touched the right buttons with her as I seem to have, it won't really matter. I'll just keep playing it cool. As a buddy was telling me, there will come the time when she won't be able to hold herself in and she'll throw herself at me. I'll just keep reading her and see when she is primed to be pounced upon.

I've been on a two year sabbatical from the ladies and, man, that's probably the best decision I ever made. I've developed my DJ mindset and now I'm doing everything right with the right girl. Heh heh.

 

[azanon]

Careful not to flirt too much with oneitis here.

A great way to "play everything right with her" is to not worry too much about her because she's just one girl of millions.