Martin Luther King Jr. Day

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FairShake said:
Blacks riot, they get static.

Blacks advocate peace and die for it, they get static.

What's a n*gga to do?

I figured what Martin Luther King and what he did was enough that he wouldn't face petty criticism and lies from the right (except when they are claiming he was a Republican). Obviously I was wrong.
Why don't they just do what other poor and historically unwelcomed people have done and do? You know like other successful black people, the Irish and other whites, Asians and even some Mexicans who kept their nose clean, worked hard and accomplished. If they can't or won't then that's their fault, not white people's fault. The only people whites hold down is other whites.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
Why don't they just do what other poor and historically unwelcomed people have done and do? You know like other successful black people, the Irish and other whites, Asians and even some Mexicans who kept their nose clean, worked hard and accomplished. If they can't or won't then that's their fault, not white people's fault. The only people whites hold down is other whites.
ur full of sh@t. the white man has held down blacks since they was slaves. slum lords n sh@t holdin down blacks today. white dudes not hiring blacks cuz they black n not givin folks a higher wage for their work is whites holdin down the blacks. u can take that to the bank.
 

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Have you ever considered that maybe your terrible english keeps you from getting a job?

Not to mention his poor attitude and thinking.

It's ludicrous to believe any white person can and is holding any black person down. Women and Asians are doing better than the average white male. Even illegal aliens don't seem to have a problem getting jobs. The only group being held down is whites especially male and to a much lesser extent Asians for being overachievers. If you can't make it as a 'minority' especially black-the most preferentially treated-then you are a lost cause and total failure.
 

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Danger said:
Have you ever considered that maybe your terrible english keeps you from getting a job?
i got a job sh@t head. how i write aint n e of ur fu@kin business. thats sum prejudice racist sh@t u talkin right there. tellin me i aint got no job or education. f@ck that sh@t. i gots me more education than ur dumb @ss.


Stagger Lee said:
Not to mention his poor attitude and thinking.

It's ludicrous to believe any white person can and is holding any black person down. Women and Asians are doing better than the average white male. Even illegal aliens don't seem to have a problem getting jobs. The only group being held down is whites especially male and to a much lesser extent Asians for being overachievers. If you can't make it as a 'minority' especially black-the most preferentially treated-then you are a lost cause and total failure.

http://www.progressillinois.com/qui...andy-co-does-not-hire-african-americans-video

plenty more of that sh@t goin on today. u dont no wut the f@ck ur talkin bout.
 

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http://www.progressillinois.com/qui...andy-co-does-not-hire-african-americans-video

plenty more of that sh@t goin on today. u dont no wut the f@ck ur talkin bout.
The staffing agency and maybe the company are probably discriminating against whites too to fill the jobs with Mexicans and illegal aliens. After all, all new jobs have gone to immigrants. The difference is the EEOC and the government is going to bat for blacks and the judge is allowing the lawsuit to go forward. Which the EEOC and judges never does for whites who are discriminated against.

That's the damn difference. Whether or not blacks are being discriminated against by a company, the government goes to bat for blacks, but it never does for whites.

And we don't even know if the allegations are true. And even if they are, like I said it might be more a case of a company and staffing agency discriminating against Americans in general to favor Mexicans and illegals. Or the African Americans have been poor employees, poor work history, criminal records etc. To just assume the company and employment agency is favoring Mexicans just because they don't want to hire blacks just because they are blacks is a reach.

In that link in the comments 'FerraraEmployee' states,

This is the biggest load of crap!!! As an insider that's worked for the company for over 4 yrs, i have never seen any such thing! They have a very diverse group of qualified people working both in the factories & in the corporate buildings. Perhaps people were refused jobs for lack of skill sets....imagine that?!?! They might be looking for someone with panning experience which maybe those who applied don't even know what a pan is, but if you were ever a candy maker you would know! Or college degrees...those always help in the corporate world! What with all the scholoarships & all that they're just giving away! Get back to school & get educated instead of crying about it! You are the only one who controls your own destiny! Save the protesting for the Circus or when you want to cause a traffic jam in rush hour b!tching about Obama on the over passes...

The real story here is Ferrara is a sh!tty employer in general like many who abuse and take advantage of its temp employees and favors employing Mexican workers, http://www.forestparkreview.com/News/Articles/10-29-2014/Protest-at-Ferrara-Candy-in-Forest-Park/

he also got complaints from workers who claimed that they were told by Ferrara supervisors to keep quiet about injuries received on the job or risk losing their temporary employment; who were employed with the company for six months to a year without receiving a raise; who were shorted on their pay; and who were overlooked by the company in favor of Mexican workers — who the activists say may tolerate more oppressive working conditions than their African American colleagues.

Gilroth said that Ronald Parker, who wasn't present at the protest, had also worked two twelve-hour shifts two weeks ago and was only paid for one.

"He told us, 'If I speak up about it, then I will never come back to work here again,'" Giloth recalled the man saying.

The activists claimed that the larger dynamic at play is the symbiotic relationship between large companies and temp agencies, which allow the companies to offload the responsibility of paying benefits and living wages, and providing safe working conditions, to their workers.

"Most Fortune 500 companies are starting to use staffing agencies, instead of hiring directly," Perry said. "That way, it takes the responsibility off of the companies. Where they may pay a staffing agency $17 per person — the person who's actually doing the work is only getting $8.25. So they're working half for themselves and half for the staffing agency, which is not fair."

Perry said that the WHA often loads up their clients in vans, transports them to temp agencies, assist them in filling out applications and ensure that their clients make it to the jobs at four AM the next day.

"Once they got [to the job], then it's the temp agency's job to contract them out to a facility and they would take them there, but they wouldn't come and pick them back up."

Perry said he's fielded complaints from clients, many of whom live on the city's west side, who have been virtually stranded in the western suburbs in the early morning hours, because public transportation isn't typically available during that time.

"Now, they have to figure a way from out there to get back home and the temp agency charges them to get dropped off," he said.

"Mind you, these are poor people who are trying to make a living for themselves — folks who have been incarcerated who don't want to do crime any longer and they're trying to make a living for their families. So when you have something like this, you're pushing the people least among us back into a life of criminality and we're trying to stop that."

Shaquan Reece, 25, was once contracted out by Elite Staffing to companies such as Frito Lay, substantiated much of Perry's criticisms.

"I was working for Elite staffing for like a year and a half — coming consistently. I wasn't eligible to get a raise. They expected me to do twelve-hour shifts. They provided the transportation, but they wouldn't pick us back up. If you come and set up at three in the morning, they would pick and choose who they wanted to go out," Reece said. "And I know the percentage of blacks and Latinos. It [would be] like 15 percent black and maybe 45 percent Latino — but when it would come time to sign up, they'd pick more Latinos before they picked us, saying [that blacks] have to be bilingual. Or they would put us on a line with team leaders who don't speak English at all," she said.

"If you didn't come with your [equipment and supplies] they weren't going to supply them. But the Latinos, they were supplying gloves and extra coats and things like that. Sometimes, they'd make Latinos line leaders within six months and they would get a vest. It's like, I've been here a year-and-a-half. Why am I not eligible for that opportunity, too? They say you have to be bilingual, but I don't think that's fair, because if you put me on the line with a line leader who doesn't speak English at all, why don't they have to be bilingual as well? Why does it only have to be me who has to be versatile in both languages?"

Reece said that, after more than a year with Elite, she was still getting paid the minimum wage of $8.25 an hour. Perry and Giloth said that companies and staffing agencies expect temp workers to labor twice as hard for half the pay. They suspect that companies are more willing to hire Mexican workers, since they're typically more willing to put up with labor abuses.

"There's a huge disparity here between Latinos and African Americans who are coming here and looking for these jobs. They are not being selected," said Virgil Crawford, an activist with WHA.

Giloth estimates that Ferrara's Forest Park facility, which he says is wholly reliant on temp workers to man its manufacturing line, employs roughly 200 such workers between shifts and for a typical week. He said that he obtained the figure by talking to Mexican workers at the plant, who pieced the number together department-by-department.

Perry said that 16 months ago, he and other activists were at this same location protesting about the hiring disparity between blacks and Latinos. He noted that, after the conversation, Ferrara did begin to hire more blacks, but the worker mistreatment continued.

The activists wanted to present their concerns and conditions to Siwak personally. Those conditions included: an end to the alleged discrimination in hiring; equal and fair treatment on the job; reliable schedules; a clear path from temp to direct hires; no more late or short paychecks; and a partnership with the community to ensure that those changes were implemented.

As the group waited for Siwak to materialize — Conversa said that the CEO was at the company's corporate headquarters in Oak Brook, but that he would try reaching him via phone — they began to sing Civil Rights-era songs.

"Ain't gonna let nobody, turn us around, turn us around," they sang. "We shall not, we shall not be moved …"

Gilroth suspected the company was engaging in a stall tactic, even as Conversa ensured the crowd that he was genuinely trying to reach Siwak. After an hour of waiting, Perry opted to hand Conversa a letter for Siwak, demanding that the CEO respond by Friday this week. Until then, the group vowed to protest the company's products.

"We can still buy the candy, but we can't help make it at a livable wage?" Perry said.

John Sheehan, a Forest Park resident with the TIF Illumination Project, said that he believes that Ferrara is receiving taxpayer funded Tax Increment Financing (TIF) dollars.

"I have to pay for my own discrimination?" Gilroth said. "It used to be free."

Attempts to contact representatives from Ferrara Candy were unsuccessful.
You see, Mexicans are just better slaves for the corporations than are African Americans and whites.

So you say you have a job and education, then what are you b!tching about?
 
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