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A brief introduction on the topic
We perceive the world through our senses, which include sight, hearing, taste, smell, and touch. These senses shape how we interpret reality and form judgments about others. For example, if someone perceives you as a "loser," it is based on the impressions their senses have gathered.

Just to give you an example, we all know here how we hate men who gossip or talk badly about others behind their backs, but there are women who liked this because they automatically became valuable by discrediting others. This is a feminine behavior and the woman will automatically assume that the man is right and that they are in tune.
It really sucks but that's how it is


Marketing operates on the principle of influencing perceptions by manipulating sensory experiences. By controlling what people see, hear, smell, and feel about you, You can shape how they perceive it.
This concept can be applied to personal relationships as well.

To attract others, including potential romantic partners, the goal is to influence how they perceive you. This involves two steps:

Self-Improvement (Product): Make genuine improvements in key areas of your life.
Presentation (Marketing): Learn how to effectively showcase these improvements.

Key factors that influence perception include:

Appearance: How you look.
Social Proof: Validation from others.
Authority and Status: Your perceived influence or achievements.
Scarcity: The sense that you are unique or in demand.
Reputation: What others say about you.

The central challenge is finding a balance between authenticity (being true to yourself) and strategic presentation (enhancing how others see you). Overemphasizing one aspect might lead to short-term success but could harm long-term relationships if the other person discovers inconsistencies. Ultimately, your "marketing" approach should align with the type of relationship you want, whether short-term or long-term

This is the case for many failed LTR's (people stay togheter but they wanted to split way before the end), because the marketing was too good for the product itself.
Could you recognize this?

Also, I found out most happiest people and women, are when they find the product with a low marketing.
That is a very good match for them. There also are many women who will actually turn down some proposal by other famous men out there just because they think they would be not so good for them.

In your case what kind of things did you do after you became a product, to be able to sell yourself well?
It would be really helpful if our members could share their "marketing strategies" after the improvement.
 

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not needed.... i get the point and question. its not needed if the improvement is enough. spend same effort on more improvement and forget the marketing. within reason, don't do silly things.

after a man can:

- fix basic look, such as hair or bald, teeth, odor..., clothing.
- get fit, cardio and strength.
- get money.
- learn negotiation (basic not advanced).
- self validate.

Marketing is not needed. Issue is some men refuse to do at least one of these are even most of them.
 

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FFS how about hitting on French, Slovenian, and Slavic women who live a short driving distance away from you instead of constantly contorting yourself to meet the demands of Italian women, Jhonny?

Lolz you must live down south by the bootheel huh..
 

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Marketing is not needed. Issue is some men refuse to do at least one of these are even most of them.
I mean, what if you've done all of this? I'm sure some people would understand here. They've done everything to become the "mountain" but they also want to "market" well
you must live down south by the bootheel huh..
Out of topic, but yes, and tell us the correlation about it
 

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I mean, what if you've done all of this? I'm sure some people would understand here. They've done everything to become the "mountain" but they also want to "market" well
i don't believe. if these are all done, it will work. if wanting more attention, do one of the things better.

if they want to be higher on the food chain then increase some or all of the category.

- advanced face care and model training.
- be a body builder or take up some form of combat.
- become a billion money guy.
- learn advanced negotiation tactics.
- don't worry, really... don't worry.

why market? going to be busy already. marketing is the space between performance and ideas. just keep adding performance.

how to market self is to gain prestige and or fame. small pond up until big pond.
 

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I see.. This whole thing makes sense.
You go deeper and deeper

It's like you're telling me to look at Cristiano Ronaldo but eliminate all the marketing.
Well, Cristiano would still exist and play, but who would know him?

I believe that marketing done specifically in a healthy way can EXPONENTIALLY grow your chances.
If you become a bodybuilder or a combat guy, people would know by word of mouth.
But what If now you put some pics of yourself and your phisique on social media, or get an interview by a local sport team, or just get quoted in their magazine?
This is a form of marketing for a good and sincere product yet
 

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I see.. This whole thing makes sense.
You go deeper and deeper

It's like you're telling me to look at Cristiano Ronaldo but eliminate all the marketing.
Well, Cristiano would still exist and play, but who would know him?

I believe that marketing done specifically in a healthy way can EXPONENTIALLY grow your chances.
If you become a bodybuilder or a combat guy, people would know by word of mouth.
But what If now you put some pics of yourself and your phisique on social media, or get an interview by a local sport team, or just get quoted in their magazine?
This is a form of marketing for a good and sincere product yet
sure, allow marketing but don't invest in it. invest in excellence.
 

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I mean, what if you've done all of this? I'm sure some people would understand here. They've done everything to become the "mountain" but they also want to "market" well

Out of topic, but yes, and tell us the correlation about it
I thought perhaps you had a short drive to get foreign chicks
 

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Men in the mating marketplace must market themselves like brands market to their target audiences.

Dating/sex has commonality with both marketing and sales. It's an interesting topic that can go very deep.
 

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It's an interesting topic that can go very deep.
It's not just marketing: a man must understand his form before he makes his improvement.. is it a knife, a gun, a saw, a club? Once he has understood and refined his technique, now he must also find his buyers.
 

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not needed.... i get the point and question. its not needed if the improvement is enough. spend same effort on more improvement and forget the marketing. within reason, don't do silly things.
At the end of the day, a girl is either going to be attracted to you, or not. Before or after improvement.
 

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FFS how about hitting on French, Slovenian, and Slavic women who live a short driving distance away from you instead of constantly contorting yourself to meet the demands of Italian women, Jhonny?

Lolz you must live down south by the bootheel huh..
Hi William,
Our Jhonnie is a Cultured Man,heir to a three thousand years old Civilization.....Not for him the bug ridden bed of a Barbarian Gypsy Woman with Garlic on her breath...What better company than a voluptuous dark haired Angelina with flashing eyes and fire in her feet?
 

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Hi William,
Our Jhonnie is a Cultured Man,heir to a three thousand years old Civilization.....Not for him the bug ridden bed of a Barbarian Gypsy Woman with Garlic on her breath...What better company than a voluptuous dark haired Angelina with flashing eyes and fire in her feet?
It's a "civilization" dominated by the Vatican and its absurd worship of the Virgin Mary which turns all of the women into wanna-be nuns. That withheld fire manifests itself all too often in rage, food and fashion and precious little in porn-style sex.

Just about any reptile, insect or sea-faring beast is better company.

The general board consensus is that Compliance is the most desired behavior from women, and this is perhaps the least compliant group of women in the world. All of their sexual energy is transmutated and they have the worst church in the world (outside of Islam and Satan) headquartered in their country.

Does Vivildi have his mother worshiped? Does DaVinci? Does Michaelangelo?

No, but Jesus's mother is because it's in the Catholic Church's interest to divide and conquer the genders so as to better maintain control. You can still have institutionalized marriage without the Virgin Mary worship, but don't tell the Italians that.
 
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Hi William,
Compare a Prussian to a Bavarian,an Englishman to a Scot...
They are as Chalk to Cheese the One is by nature softer,gentler,more refined the other more prone to anger and violence....The reason?...one was exposed to hundreds of years of Roman Civilisation,the other missed out.
 
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Hi William,
Compare a Prussian to a Bavarian,an Englishman to a Scot...
They are as Chalk to Cheese the One is by nature more refined the other prone to anger and more primitive instincts....The reason?...one was exposed to hundreds of years of Roman Civilisation,the other missed out.
As implied above, their civilization is no longer Roman, it's Catholic. LOL you won't find many posh and proper English upper-class behaviors on Staten Phucking Island.

Agreed on the English and Scots. Scottish genes are primarily responsible for the hillbilly phenomenon in the USA with their backward ways including disdain for education, violent tempers, and inbreeding.
 

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Hi Billy,
Your Scotch/Irish were some of the toughest hombres ever to blaze a frontier,but not your most genteel.....The British Empire was built by an army that for four hundred years had Scots and Irish in its front row.
 

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Hi Billy,
Your Scotch/Irish were some of the toughest hombres ever to blaze a frontier,but not your most genteel.....The British Empire was built by an army that for four hundred years had Scots and Irish in its front row.
True but (and I admit I was vague in my prior post) the Scots/Irish are neither Scottish nor Irish, but rather Northern Englanders who came to the US by way of Ulster (Northern Ireland).

The underbelly of their bunch is arguably more animalistic than human

 

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Hi Billy,
"Animalistic",Maybe so,but then you Guys used them too....At the Alamo,Scotch Irisher Daniel Boone was last seen wielding his rifle as a club, against Mexican troops who had breached the walls of the mission. The last Texan group to remain in the open were Crockett and his men, defending the low wall in front of the church.
 

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Hi Billy,
"Animalistic",Maybe so,but then you Guys used them too....At the Alamo,Scotch Irisher Daniel Boone was last seen wielding his rifle as a club, against Mexican troops who had breached the walls of the mission. The last Texan group to remain in the open were Crockett and his men, defending the low wall in front of the church.
We wouldn't have settled the frontier and fought off the Indians without them.

That being said, even they likely wouldn't have conquered Italian Women.
 

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Oh Billy,
Where's your sense of adventure?...A good Italian woman has fire in her belly and passion in her heart and as age causes that to dim a little,her Mother at least taught her to cook,which is a great consolation LOL.
 
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